Quick Licks #67 - Alternate Picking With Repeats |
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Quick Licks #67 - Alternate Picking With Repeats |
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Feb 16 2019, 09:31 PM |
Hardest one yet buddy
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 17 2019, 10:48 PM |
Hardest one yet buddy Pattern repeats every 2nd bar. I'm sure you can nail it! This post has been edited by Caelumamittendum: Feb 17 2019, 10:48 PM |
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Feb 17 2019, 11:28 PM |
You see Ben? You spot things that I don't. Each note is a new destination for me. I must have some form of dyslexia. Its like I couldn't tell anyone how to get to my home from my work because I can't visualise any more than the next 1/4 mile. Sometimes when I'm driving I wonder if I've passed a certain landmark and then I come to it. I think this affects me in my learning ability.
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 17 2019, 11:39 PM |
we are all different, maybe that is why Satriani is who he is
This post has been edited by Phil66: Feb 17 2019, 11:45 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 18 2019, 12:00 AM |
Most music is built on patterns, I suppose. This particular lick I see as a 3+5/5+3 lick. Seeing the smaller individual patterns can help in remembering it a bit more easily.
For instance in prog music, a usual way of achieving some differences is to subtract or add notes to a lick. This adds variation in both rythm and note choice, but if the first 5 notes are the same, or even the same pattern (but different places in the scale) it's less information to process and remember A silly example here: Audio_midi.mid ( 2.04K ) Number of downloads: 248 Maybe it's hard to grasp at first, so maybe the tab will give a clearer insight to it: tab.gp5 ( 1.98K ) Number of downloads: 248 See how the first 4/4 bar repeats in 9/8 but with an added note. Or in the 7/8 but a note less. Same with the 11/8. This is a bit of a silly example as it sounds a bit "crooked", but it was just to prove a point Also, here's an example with the riff from above with a full band (this was just put together in 5 minutes, so it's not too musical, but there are patterns with variation in all of the instruments): Example_riff.mid ( 11.45K ) Number of downloads: 250 And tab: Example_riff.gp5 ( 5.21K ) Number of downloads: 247 And finally example from above as MP3 with better sound from GP7: Example_riff.mp3 ( 1.94MB ) Number of downloads: 256 #LoveOfPatterns This post has been edited by Caelumamittendum: Feb 18 2019, 03:52 PM |
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Feb 18 2019, 03:56 AM |
BINGO!!!! Very good eye on that. It's a 5+3 that goes in to reverse at the end. The notes repeat so one is really just playing the same notes in little loops. It's what makes it sound like there are so many notes in this lick. I'm just going back and forth and repeating things. It's a classic Paul Gilbert bit of shred trickery to make it sound like many more notes are actually happening, when in fact it's just covering the same ground by going a bit foward, a bit back. In the end, reverse keeps the ear of the casual listener from hearing it as one big repeat loop, it's just for variation. It drops to an open E so you can pull up your guitar and do an yngwie and let it ring on feedback
It's a fun lick! It's a lot of notes, but most are the same notes. Give it a whirl!! Todd Most music is built on patterns, I suppose. This particular lick I see as a 3+5/5+3 lick. Seeing the smaller individual patterns can help in remembering it a bit more easily.
For instance in prog music, a usual way of achieving some differences is to subtract or add notes to a lick. This adds variation in both rythm and note choice, but if the first 5 notes are the same, or even the same pattern (but different places in the scale) it's less information to process and remember A silly example here: Audio_midi.mid ( 2.04K ) Number of downloads: 248 Maybe it's hard to grasp at first, so maybe the tab will give a clearer insight to it: tab.gp5 ( 1.98K ) Number of downloads: 248 See how the first 4/4 bar repeats in 9/8 but with an added note. Or in the 7/8 but a note less. Same with the 11/8. This is a bit of a silly example as it sounds a bit "crooked", but it was just to prove a point Also, here's an example with the riff from above with a full band (this was just put together in 5 minutes, so it's not too musical, but there are patterns with variation in all of the instruments): Example_riff.mid ( 11.45K ) Number of downloads: 250 And tab: Example_riff.gp5 ( 5.21K ) Number of downloads: 247 And finally example from above as MP3 with better sound from GP7: Example_riff.mp3 ( 1.94MB ) Number of downloads: 256 #LoveOfPatterns This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Feb 18 2019, 03:56 AM |
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Feb 18 2019, 08:42 AM |
Thanks Ben and Todd
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 20 2019, 07:57 AM |
Still struggling to get it into my head. I'm terrible with back and forth patterns. It's something to do with my brain. Every time I walk out of a shop, I walk out and go back the way I came. When I used to play Tomb Raider, if I had to go into a cave five times and follow the same route five times until the last 1/4, I got it wrong every time. It might be linked to something in my head
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 20 2019, 11:20 AM |
I don't think it's the key, it's having more than one pattern, my mind goes funky, it's Tomb Raider syndrome. I will get it recorded tonight or tomorrow night though
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 20 2019, 12:03 PM |
Most certainly not mate. I'm always receptive of any help. Occasionally one gets that elusive light bulb moment that propels progress at warp speed for a while.
It's just me. I can remember patterns like, 1234 2345 3456, or 1357 3579, it's patterns like 1234, 2345, 5432, 3456, 4567, 7654 that throw me out, I even struggle to write that down maybe I'm just a numpty and need to go back to school or get a brain transplant Thanks for your help -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 20 2019, 01:42 PM |
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 20 2019, 03:28 PM |
It certainly is, if it's easy you ain't progressing
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 20 2019, 08:58 PM |
Another thing so you know how my mind works, I had a tab book once, I was trying for ages to shuffle my fingers to play various triads, (I didn't know they were triads then, they were given different chord names in the TAB), I was getting in a right old tangle, I put the book down, picked it up a few months later and tried again for a few weeks, LIGHT BULB MOMENT! I realised that I could play them by just holding an E shape bar chord and either strumming the first three strings, the middle three string or the three bass strings in whatever position they were to be found, I nailed that song in 5 minutes It was only a simple song, can't recall it now, but you get the idea of my weird brain
Take 1, bit of fret buzz, need to adjust truss a little https://youtu.be/bvuylsBl9sE This post has been edited by Phil66: Feb 20 2019, 10:17 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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