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Posted by: Guitarman700 Sep 2 2007, 06:13 AM
My lifes dream is to be a pro guitarist, but lately everyone is telling me "you cant do it", "you started too late"(im 17 and just got rid of my bad practicing habits.) and "you cant make any money that way, youll never make it". i feel depressed and overwhelmed, What should i do? 
Posted by: Nick325 Sep 2 2007, 06:29 AM
you could take their bad comments which a guitar player should never be told and practice, practice, practice. and show them. and then rub it in their faces when ur famous and rich 
Posted by: Robin Sep 2 2007, 06:30 AM
Of course you can be a proffesional guitarist. Ignore those who say you cant. I'm 18, and I didnt start to REALLY practice before I joined GMC. I'm still gonna be a god damn proffesional guitarist some day, I'm gonna get a record deal, if its with my band or solo stuff, but god damnit I'm gonna make it!!! You can too, of course. Just practice, listen to music and have fun while doing it. And of course, you will probably not earn that much money, atleast not in the start. But it cant be that hard to have a job while practicing your ass off 
Oh btw, do you know who Steve Harris is? The bass player in Iron Maiden. He is in my opinion the best bass player in the world, many others say that too. Do you know when he started playing? He started at 17
You can do it!
Posted by: ch00ch00man Sep 2 2007, 06:58 AM
I wish there was an automatic smite button for every jerk off in the world who see it fit to crush others dreams. I absolutely abhor and hate jealous losers. The world would be so much better place if people like that did not exist (and yes, I'm talking about my parents. Buts a whole other conversation). Dude, eighteen is a perfect age to start playing. You have you your whole life ahead of you. Use their cruelty as a motivation, and practice your ass off. And when your rich and famous, show it right up their collective asses.
In the famous words of RJD; "The world is full of kings and queens, who blind your eyes and steel your dreams. Its heaven and hell..."
Boris
Posted by: JVM Sep 2 2007, 07:06 AM
Hey man, there are professional guitarists who have never gotten rid of their bad practicing habits. You're ahead of the game, though you might not think so. There are success stories all over this site, Ezra is one, I think he said he's been playing for 1 year and he's already approaching shred skill level. He might practice insane hours, but don't let ANYONE tell you you can't do it.
Posted by: Eat-Sleep-andJam Sep 2 2007, 07:14 AM
The minute you start feeding into what their telling you, thats when they win. You know what to do Guitarman700. Get practicing
Posted by: Pavel Sep 2 2007, 07:19 AM
Hey m8!
Rusty Cooley started at 15. Michael Romeo started at 14 with acoustic guitar and Francesco Farreri (Italian kick ass shredder is now around 27) started around 17. Do i have to tell you anything else??
Posted by: KRmachine Sep 2 2007, 08:32 AM
Glenn Tipton in Judas Priest started playing when he was 21, and recorded his first album with Priest when he was 27, and he's a great guitarist.
Posted by: Jared Sep 2 2007, 08:57 AM
Dear lord, then I'm screwed. I just started and I turn 21 in about 6 months 
But I don't really care, you know why? Because it shouldn't necessarily be about being the most badass guitar player and having big ass record deals.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't practice and try to get better at everything you do but you should have a love for the music too.
The reason's I practice is so that I can gain the ability to create my own songs and have the skills to play them to their fullest. The better I get, the better my songs become. Jammin' out with my friends is my other motivation.
Hell, half the reason I started playing was because I listened to my favorite bands and thought, "how awesome would it be if I could move people the same way they moved me?" (The other half was my friends pestering me to by an electric guitar).
Sounds sappy as hell but its the truth.
I'll just be happy when I get good enough to come home and sit down and lay out some badass licks to make me feel better.
Posted by: Hardtail Sep 2 2007, 09:24 AM
Practice...
I'm 27 years old. I've been performing for about 13+ years off and on in local stuff here and there. All I ever knew was basic rhythm guitar. Everyone told me to just stick with rhythm because I couldn't play lead. I just joined GMC within the last few months and have been working at learning solo guitar. Granted I can play a mean rhythm after having focused on it solely for all those years but now I'm intent to learn solo as well.
What you need to focus on is whether you're going to let an old fart like me show you up?
Next time someone tells you you're starting too late just punch them in the eye. Works with naysayers and EMO's alike.
Hardtail
Posted by: FretDancer69 Sep 2 2007, 09:39 AM
Very true. You know what to do. i believe that bad comments from people are a must in a guitarist's life, what you gotta do with them, is turn them into higher goals that you want to, and will accomplish.
Posted by: The Uncreator Sep 2 2007, 09:47 AM
"If People Say You Can't Do It, That Means You Can"
A close friend of mine used to say that, and i think its true, everytime someone said she couldnt do something, she always said that phrase and ended up proving them wrong, You can do whatever the hell you want.
When it comes to your dreams, it only matters if you belive you can do it, nothing else matters, you have to belive you can accomplish it.
Posted by: symon Sep 2 2007, 11:06 AM
mate watch the movie the secret it will change your views what you think about you create oh and by the way the people that crush your dreams what have they acomplished its easy to have the tallest building in town when you knock over every body elses
warm regards symon
Posted by: richgrafx Sep 2 2007, 11:21 AM
Play the guitar for the right reasons and you will reach your goals.
Posted by: lefty01 Sep 2 2007, 11:28 AM
You are far from being too old, don't listen to that crazy stuff. You are never to old to start playing, and never too old to "make it". You need to keep a couple of things in mind. Your idea of being a success, and another persons, is a very broad range. Some consider themselves as "making it", and only playing in a bar band setting one night a month. Is that "making it"?...Yes, it sure is. You don't have to sell a million copies of a cd to consider yourself a pro guitarist. Anytime you get any amount of $$$ paid to you for doing anything, you can consider yourself a professional. On the 7.th of this month, I will be 39 years old. I have only played for two years now. I know that I will never play 100,000 in stadiums around the world, and I'm ok with that. In another year, I should be ready to play on a local bar band...thats all I am shoting for, and I'm ok with that too. In my view, I will have accomplished what I set out to do...so, yes, I am a success.
Keep playing. Play for what is in your heart. If, and when you become a "success", it will then be for the right reasons. If you play to only seek $$$/fame...you won't last long.
All the best to ya.
Posted by: Travelin' Man Sep 2 2007, 11:29 AM
Guitarman, Im in my 40's. I have played guitar since i was 14, and while being in mulitple bands, we never went anywhere, so I figured it wasnt meant to be and I quit playing. I hate myself now for giving up the career that I wanted when I was your age. While my reason for joining this site now was to accomplish something for myself, I want to tell you that no matter what someone says to you, dont let go of your dream. In the long run, dreams dont cost anything, but listening to bad advice will. Dont be in your 40's hating yourself for not following your dream.
Posted by: lefty01 Sep 2 2007, 11:31 AM
That is some advice, we can all use.
Posted by: shredmandan Sep 2 2007, 11:54 AM
Dude what guitarist out there hasnt heard you cant make it?It is a game where the odds are against you but the ones that dont execpt that are the ones that made it.So your 17 and it's over?How can it be over when your not even old enough to drink beer yet??
Honestly though do you realize how young you are?Even if you just started playing guitar today you still could make it.I'm not trying to be smart or funny but think about it.Did you read Travelin man's post?Thats when it get's tough when you have lived half your life already and havent got there yet.I have been bummed latly because i can tell i have lost some skill in alot of my other playing due to trying to always just play lead.But you know what?Thats my own fault and if i want to change it then i can with hard work,so really its up to me what i can play and how far i make it,not what someone else tells me.
I will say this.Try to add a Wife, 2kids to your problem and then think how hard it is to make it.Happy to have my family but i gave up my dream for myself being a rockstar when i picked a girl.I didnt say that to myself but that's actually how it goes because do you want to be there with your family or on the road away always.You want to make sure you become a pro guitarist?Dont settle for anything but sucess,dont let a girl in your life because your music should be all the woman you need and hold off on other responsablity.Thats what you have to give up to ensure you have a easier time making it.
Best of luck to you and i really hope you do become the pro guitarist you want to be.It's really all up to you though.
Posted by: Hardtail Sep 2 2007, 01:32 PM
warm regards symon
No offense, but don't watch "The Secret". It is well packaged very nice looking mysticism with a focus on selfishness. "Positive Thinking" is nothing new it just receives new faces every decade or so. I laughed the whole time I watched that movie at how ridiculous it is. (If you want to discuss more my views of the movie please PM me, I'd rather keep it out of GMC since it could eventually pour over into religion).Practice, practice, practice. Make mental note of your capabilities and skill level. Play to your abilities with confidence. Rinse and repeat.
Hardtail
Posted by: Ayen Sep 2 2007, 04:33 PM
The best thing to do is ignore them, work at your technique as best you can, and when the time comes and you're famous, playing lead (or whatever you prefer to play) in a rock band, when they come up to you, asking for forgiveness, either bash 'em in the head with your guitar, or ignore them entirely.
Anyone here has the ability to become famous and amazing if they work hard towards it. A good example here is Kristofer. I don't know if he was told he couldn't make it, but at one point he was nothing more than a newbie like the rest of us. Now look at him, through hard work he owns GMC, has been in many bands, and is an amazing guitarist. One day you'll be amazing, ignore anyone who puts you down.
Another suggestion that came to me, if someone tells you you can't do something on the guitar, whether it be extremely hard or you're having an off day, hand them the guitar, give them the pick, and tell them to play something. That'll show them.
Posted by: mattacuk Sep 2 2007, 07:20 PM
Im 26 and im going to be a great guitarist !
Posted by: Gen Sep 2 2007, 07:34 PM
Noodle of offspring started at the age of 22.
Okay its not a shredder but its still a really good guitarist imo.
Posted by: FretDancer69 Sep 3 2007, 12:23 AM
The best thing to do is ignore them, work at your technique as best you can, and when the time comes and you're famous, playing lead (or whatever you prefer to play) in a rock band, when they come up to you, asking for forgiveness, either bash 'em in the head with your guitar, or ignore them entirely.
Anyone here has the ability to become famous and amazing if they work hard towards it. A good example here is Kristofer. I don't know if he was told he couldn't make it, but at one point he was nothing more than a newbie like the rest of us. Now look at him, through hard work he owns GMC, has been in many bands, and is an amazing guitarist. One day you'll be amazing, ignore anyone who puts you down.
Another suggestion that came to me, if someone tells you you can't do something on the guitar, whether it be extremely hard or you're having an off day, hand them the guitar, give them the pick, and tell them to play something. That'll show them.
great words Ayen. I completely agree with you.
Posted by: NightFlight Sep 3 2007, 01:27 AM
There was this kid I knew a while back. At the age of 7, his mother bought him one of those little chord organs. Within a few months, this kid learned all the notes on the keyboard and could play everything in the songbooks -- in fact, he was pretty much reading music. By the time he was 10, he started learning wind instruments at school in beginning band. And that same year he got his first guitar and started learning from various beginner books. From then on, he played in school band (concert band, symphonic band, jazz band) until he graduated high school while still learning and playing guitar. Over the span of 8 years until graduation, this kid had learned clarinet, trumpet, sax, baritone, French horn, and was even writing entire scores for symphonic band during his senior year in high school. And yes, he was still jamming away at guitar. At age 17, he became a forming member of a local club band and played regular gigs. As high school graduation approached, he had a clear, concise vision of what he wanted to do with his life ---- he wanted to be a musician and a music teacher. It was the obvious choice since music was what he had known most of his life. Beside, his parents had more or less helped foster this passion from day one.
In quest of his dream, he proceeded to check out several U.S. colleges with well-known music programs. There were a few prospects, including Berkeley. But of course, someone had to slap him back into reality. His parents and other family members reminded him what a waste of time and life it would be to get a music degree -- this was not a respectable career, there was no money to be made in it, there are no jobs for people with music degrees....and so on.
Of course we all tend to trust our close family members, right? After all, those of us that have kids would like to think we are steering them in the right direction. So, this kid took their advice and sought out other options for his life. He still played his axe, gigged with his band -- until several of the band memebers moved on. Two members went to music conservatories, one hooked up with a touring band and hit the road. Within two years the band more or less dissolved. Meanwhile, over the next 20 years, this kid (now an adult) bounced around exploring different career options, trying to figure it all out -- who he was and what he was supposed to do with his life. Throughout this time, he was off and on again with his guitar. Besides, he no longer had the time to devote to getting serious about playing guitar. All along he felt like something in his life was missing. Music -- the very thing that defined him, gave birth to his soul, his lifelong ambitions and dreams -- had been trampled, dismissed, dismantled and buried in a sea of self-doubt.
This kid....was me. In a few months I'll be 42 years old. Not a day in my life passes that I don't regret not following my dream. In spite of having two college degrees, a personally rewarding career that pays quite well, a wife, kids, two dogs, a cat, a koi pond, a nice home, etc. -- there is still an empty, unfilled void from a long lost dream.
Take a bit of advice from an old man -- don't EVER let anyone crush your goals and destroy your dreams. This doesn't mean you cannot listen to what other people have to say. There's always something to be learned, even if you think their ideas are a load of crap. You can always listen, smile, and say, "I appreciate your concern" -- then go grab your axe and rip off a few shreds to vent. The key is to know who you are, what you want, and have the self-discipline to dedicate yourself to it. The only difference between those that are great and those that linger in mediocrity is quite simple: the ones that make it to the top are the ones that are willing to work the hardest, sacrifice the most, and never stop striving toward their goals. In the end, you may or may not get exactly where you want to be -- but you can be assured you will achieve something great that you will always cherish.
One thing I must add here is that everything in life MUST have a balance. Sacrificing your education to jam on the guitar all day is definitely not going to enable you to reach your goals. Many, if not most, of the great guitarists -- those that we look to emulate and learn from here at GMC, are quite intelligent. Ever listen to these guys in an interview? By their musical talent it's quite clear they paid their dues and put forth the greatest of effort in their craft. However, in listening to their interviews it is also clear they have a broader knowledge base than that limited to grinding an axe or belting out bone-chilling vocals. Learn everything you can, from every experience, every day of your life and you will go far.
As for me, I may be an old man but I'm not that old. Through hard work, dedication, and the incredible learning experiences here at GMC, I'm going to get back to and beyond the performance-level player I used to be. I WILL get back on that stage! When the lights go down, and the amps crank up -- you can know one thing for sure....it's gonna freakin' ROCK!
Now, grab your guitar, tune up, crank it out, and never say die to your dreams! Peace! 
Posted by: Gen Sep 3 2007, 01:38 AM
In quest of his dream, he proceeded to check out several U.S. colleges with well-known music programs. There were a few prospects, including Berkeley. But of course, someone had to slap him back into reality. His parents and other family members reminded him what a waste of time and life it would be to get a music degree -- this was not a respectable career, there was no money to be made in it, there are no jobs for people with music degrees....and so on.
Of course we all tend to trust our close family members, right? After all, those of us that have kids would like to think we are steering them in the right direction. So, this kid took their advice and sought out other options for his life. He still played his axe, gigged with his band -- until several of the band memebers moved on. Two members went to music conservatories, one hooked up with a touring band and hit the road. Within two years the band more or less dissolved. Meanwhile, over the next 20 years, this kid (now an adult) bounced around exploring different career options, trying to figure it all out -- who he was and what he was supposed to do with his life. Throughout this time, he was off and on again with his guitar. Besides, he no longer had the time to devote to getting serious about playing guitar. All along he felt like something in his life was missing. Music -- the very thing that defined him, gave birth to his soul, his lifelong ambitions and dreams -- had been trampled, dismissed, dismantled and buried in a sea of self-doubt.
This kid....was me. In a few months I'll be 42 years old. Not a day in my life passes that I don't regret not following my dream. In spite of having two college degrees, a personally rewarding career that pays quite well, a wife, kids, two dogs, a cat, a koi pond, a nice home, etc. -- there is still an empty, unfilled void from a long lost dream.
Take a bit of advice from an old man -- don't EVER let anyone crush your goals and destroy your dreams. This doesn't mean you cannot listen to what other people have to say. There's always something to be learned, even if you think their ideas are a load of crap. You can always listen, smile, and say, "I appreciate your concern" -- then go grab your axe and rip off a few shreds to vent. The key is to know who you are, what you want, and have the self-discipline to dedicate yourself to it. The only difference between those that are great and those that linger in mediocrity is quite simple: the ones that make it to the top are the ones that are willing to work the hardest, sacrifice the most, and never stop striving toward their goals. In the end, you may or may not get exactly where you want to be -- but you can be assured you will achieve something great that you will always cherish.
One thing I must add here is that everything in life MUST have a balance. Sacrificing your education to jam on the guitar all day is definitely not going to enable you to reach your goals. Many, if not most, of the great guitarists -- those that we look to emulate and learn from here at GMC, are quite intelligent. Ever listen to these guys in an interview? By their musical talent it's quite clear they paid their dues and put forth the greatest of effort in their craft. However, in listening to their interviews it is also clear they have a broader knowledge base than that limited to grinding an axe or belting out bone-chilling vocals. Learn everything you can, from every experience, every day of your life and you will go far.
As for me, I may be an old man but I'm not that old. Through hard work, dedication, and the incredible learning experiences here at GMC, I'm going to get back to and beyond the performance-level player I used to be. I WILL get back on that stage! When the lights go down, and the amps crank up -- you can know one thing for sure....it's gonna freakin' ROCK!
Now, grab your guitar, tune up, crank it out, and never say die to your dreams! Peace!
Dude...awesome post!
Posted by: FretDancer69 Sep 3 2007, 01:44 AM
Indeed, those were some good words of wisdom and experience. Its stuff like that that makes me want to pursue my dreams, no matter who is against me. Thanks for taking your time telling us your story, NightFlight
Posted by: DeepRoots Sep 3 2007, 01:52 AM
That was an amazing post NightFlight
Posted by: KRmachine Sep 3 2007, 01:53 AM
From age 15 I wanted to start playing guitar, but I never got around to it until i was 18 because I thought you had to basically start from birth to get anywhere, and that it was too late. I only started after I realized this was false, and I think it's important you realize this too, otherwise all your practicing will be hindered by those thoughts in the back of your head.
I must confess I get them from time to time myself when I see guys like Steve Vai or Buckethead, who were better than I'll ever be by the time they were my age (21). Then again, how many of those are there in the world? that's right, there's one of each and you don't have to be nearly as good as them to get somewhere.
Posted by: Ayen Sep 3 2007, 09:59 AM
I feel special.Wow! What a twist, I never saw that coming. Reading your story really shows how much you love music, and how it hurt to let it go. I've personally (as I'm sure the rest of us have) had the dream of going on stage and playing lead guitar, but as time passes, and other things become available and seemingly more productive, things change. I was going to let this dream go to pursue a career in Video Game character concept design, full time. Now I've realized how much It'd hurt to see that dream pass by. Though I'll probably still work as a concept designer, I will never let music go.
I'll be waiting for you to come on stage. Thanks.
Posted by: FretDancer69 Sep 3 2007, 10:27 AM
I feel special.Wow! What a twist, I never saw that coming.
yeah, it got me good too!!
Posted by: The Uncreator Sep 3 2007, 10:43 AM
NightFlight deserves a reward for that post!
Posted by: SLASH91 Sep 3 2007, 11:09 AM
Amen, great post NightFlight.
So, yeah ,Guitarman700, just screw what everyone says,and Pursue your dream.
Posted by: Guitarman700 Sep 3 2007, 11:59 AM
In quest of his dream, he proceeded to check out several U.S. colleges with well-known music programs. There were a few prospects, including Berkeley. But of course, someone had to slap him back into reality. His parents and other family members reminded him what a waste of time and life it would be to get a music degree -- this was not a respectable career, there was no money to be made in it, there are no jobs for people with music degrees....and so on.
Of course we all tend to trust our close family members, right? After all, those of us that have kids would like to think we are steering them in the right direction. So, this kid took their advice and sought out other options for his life. He still played his axe, gigged with his band -- until several of the band memebers moved on. Two members went to music conservatories, one hooked up with a touring band and hit the road. Within two years the band more or less dissolved. Meanwhile, over the next 20 years, this kid (now an adult) bounced around exploring different career options, trying to figure it all out -- who he was and what he was supposed to do with his life. Throughout this time, he was off and on again with his guitar. Besides, he no longer had the time to devote to getting serious about playing guitar. All along he felt like something in his life was missing. Music -- the very thing that defined him, gave birth to his soul, his lifelong ambitions and dreams -- had been trampled, dismissed, dismantled and buried in a sea of self-doubt.
This kid....was me. In a few months I'll be 42 years old. Not a day in my life passes that I don't regret not following my dream. In spite of having two college degrees, a personally rewarding career that pays quite well, a wife, kids, two dogs, a cat, a koi pond, a nice home, etc. -- there is still an empty, unfilled void from a long lost dream.
Take a bit of advice from an old man -- don't EVER let anyone crush your goals and destroy your dreams. This doesn't mean you cannot listen to what other people have to say. There's always something to be learned, even if you think their ideas are a load of crap. You can always listen, smile, and say, "I appreciate your concern" -- then go grab your axe and rip off a few shreds to vent. The key is to know who you are, what you want, and have the self-discipline to dedicate yourself to it. The only difference between those that are great and those that linger in mediocrity is quite simple: the ones that make it to the top are the ones that are willing to work the hardest, sacrifice the most, and never stop striving toward their goals. In the end, you may or may not get exactly where you want to be -- but you can be assured you will achieve something great that you will always cherish.
One thing I must add here is that everything in life MUST have a balance. Sacrificing your education to jam on the guitar all day is definitely not going to enable you to reach your goals. Many, if not most, of the great guitarists -- those that we look to emulate and learn from here at GMC, are quite intelligent. Ever listen to these guys in an interview? By their musical talent it's quite clear they paid their dues and put forth the greatest of effort in their craft. However, in listening to their interviews it is also clear they have a broader knowledge base than that limited to grinding an axe or belting out bone-chilling vocals. Learn everything you can, from every experience, every day of your life and you will go far.
As for me, I may be an old man but I'm not that old. Through hard work, dedication, and the incredible learning experiences here at GMC, I'm going to get back to and beyond the performance-level player I used to be. I WILL get back on that stage! When the lights go down, and the amps crank up -- you can know one thing for sure....it's gonna freakin' ROCK!
Now, grab your guitar, tune up, crank it out, and never say die to your dreams! Peace!
That...was the most beautiful, inspiring thing ive heard in a long time. the mere fact that you took the time to tell your story to us make me feel better. i know what its like to lose a dream, i may only be 17, but ive had some pretty terrible things happen to me. music is my only passion, the only thing i have in my life. it keeps me sane, and makes me happy.Im NOT a "Normal" person, most of my life has been pretty messed up, but the mastering the guitar is my one and only dream. thanks to everybody for believing in me.
Colin
Posted by: Ayen Sep 3 2007, 12:10 PM
We're always here for ya, buddy.
Posted by: FretDancer69 Sep 3 2007, 12:47 PM
yeah! we're all a family(
), so we're here to help each other! Now go and pursue your dream! 
Posted by: Eat-Sleep-andJam Sep 3 2007, 02:11 PM
In quest of his dream, he proceeded to check out several U.S. colleges with well-known music programs. There were a few prospects, including Berkeley. But of course, someone had to slap him back into reality. His parents and other family members reminded him what a waste of time and life it would be to get a music degree -- this was not a respectable career, there was no money to be made in it, there are no jobs for people with music degrees....and so on.
Of course we all tend to trust our close family members, right? After all, those of us that have kids would like to think we are steering them in the right direction. So, this kid took their advice and sought out other options for his life. He still played his axe, gigged with his band -- until several of the band memebers moved on. Two members went to music conservatories, one hooked up with a touring band and hit the road. Within two years the band more or less dissolved. Meanwhile, over the next 20 years, this kid (now an adult) bounced around exploring different career options, trying to figure it all out -- who he was and what he was supposed to do with his life. Throughout this time, he was off and on again with his guitar. Besides, he no longer had the time to devote to getting serious about playing guitar. All along he felt like something in his life was missing. Music -- the very thing that defined him, gave birth to his soul, his lifelong ambitions and dreams -- had been trampled, dismissed, dismantled and buried in a sea of self-doubt.
This kid....was me. In a few months I'll be 42 years old. Not a day in my life passes that I don't regret not following my dream. In spite of having two college degrees, a personally rewarding career that pays quite well, a wife, kids, two dogs, a cat, a koi pond, a nice home, etc. -- there is still an empty, unfilled void from a long lost dream.
Take a bit of advice from an old man -- don't EVER let anyone crush your goals and destroy your dreams. This doesn't mean you cannot listen to what other people have to say. There's always something to be learned, even if you think their ideas are a load of crap. You can always listen, smile, and say, "I appreciate your concern" -- then go grab your axe and rip off a few shreds to vent. The key is to know who you are, what you want, and have the self-discipline to dedicate yourself to it. The only difference between those that are great and those that linger in mediocrity is quite simple: the ones that make it to the top are the ones that are willing to work the hardest, sacrifice the most, and never stop striving toward their goals. In the end, you may or may not get exactly where you want to be -- but you can be assured you will achieve something great that you will always cherish.
One thing I must add here is that everything in life MUST have a balance. Sacrificing your education to jam on the guitar all day is definitely not going to enable you to reach your goals. Many, if not most, of the great guitarists -- those that we look to emulate and learn from here at GMC, are quite intelligent. Ever listen to these guys in an interview? By their musical talent it's quite clear they paid their dues and put forth the greatest of effort in their craft. However, in listening to their interviews it is also clear they have a broader knowledge base than that limited to grinding an axe or belting out bone-chilling vocals. Learn everything you can, from every experience, every day of your life and you will go far.
As for me, I may be an old man but I'm not that old. Through hard work, dedication, and the incredible learning experiences here at GMC, I'm going to get back to and beyond the performance-level player I used to be. I WILL get back on that stage! When the lights go down, and the amps crank up -- you can know one thing for sure....it's gonna freakin' ROCK!
Now, grab your guitar, tune up, crank it out, and never say die to your dreams! Peace!
Dude this by far the best post ive read on her in along time. I can honestly say I dont know what I wanna do with my life. I think about my dreams sometimes and I just wander off, Into a world that only I know. I just dont know what to love any more and what not. Its times like these when I pick up my guitar and try to escape all the bull**** of the world. You know I have a very brilliant Grandmother. She is the kindest most gentle person Ive ever meant and she is one of those old people who always has a story to tell. She often tells me about how when she was younger she would play the mandolin. And how she loved it and cheerished every minute of it. One day she came to found her brother sold her beloved mandolin. And that was that. Years passed and she grew old. She forgot about her mandolin. And well It was only yesterday that she found another one of her old ones in the attic. Its amazing to see the life rush into someone you love. Its kind of like waking up on Christmas morning and running down stairs before your whole family is up all you want to do is forget the world and enjoy life for that one brief moment .
I often stop and think where im going to be 20 years from now, me being 14. I just dont know. Id love to become a famous musican, and sell millions of records and have enough money to roll in . And after thats said and done Id donate some money to founding a program across america for the arts.
This may sound stupid but when im in school sometimes dazing off, I often think about my life as one big guitar journey. You first start off as junior guiar, you dont know your way around the frets yet but your learning. You eventually start to grow up and being a regular size guitar. You learn your way around and you know how and why the earth rotates the way it does. Years pass and you get older, your fretboard gets old and you to get older.Your finish begins to wear off , but you dont mind you just keep playing.
You guys may joke about it but I consider all of you family. Its not all the time that you come across great gentleman and ladies everyday ( Only switched Ladies and Gentlemen around because weve yet to actually get a steady population of women
.)Your all very good hearted people and I thank you for helping me learn to follow and purse my dreams, to become a professional musican.
- John
Edited for language - Andrew
Posted by: Ayen Sep 3 2007, 02:18 PM
My grandma just tells me the same story over and over again, but she doesn't know that :-\.
I consider GMC a family as well, we may not be as close as an actual family by definition, but we're always here for eachother, and thats something you dont find a lot. I'll be second to thank you guys, without GMC, I would still be a terrible guitarist, knowing little to nothing.
Posted by: Robin Sep 3 2007, 07:39 PM
Amazing stories!
Posted by: Francis Viviers Sep 3 2007, 08:15 PM
Dude! If you really want to you can become a great guitarist. I started a year and a half back. My mother told me we are not a musical family and that my guitar was just a waste of time and money. A year and a half down the line and im still going strong. Im nowhere near pro yet. But ill make it soon. Playing guitar is like breaking barriers. It becomes easier and easier the longer you play.
Chris also started at like 21 and he a kick ass guitarist. Having the determination to be great will drive you to be great. Use what others tell you to drive you where you want to go.
I recently discovered some nice ways of practicing and ill write a "newbie lesson" type page soon. Since i have been doing this, my playing speed has doubled in the last 3 months.
Good luck brother!
Posted by: edgor67 Sep 3 2007, 09:00 PM
GM 700, no doubt you saw NIGHTFLIGHT's post #24. Even though he is a whipper snapper at 42 his advice is sage. I'll be 53 in Oct and when I reflect on life it is mostly what ifs. In 1979 I sent my audition tape and $100. bucks to the Guitar Institute of Technology. They took me in. I was due to get out of the Navy and I was going to play guitar. Well... I met a girl, got my deposit back and went in another direction. She dumped me.
I went back in the Navy and retired 22 years later. Oh... I punched all the tickets. I have a lovely wife (not the former girlfriend , ofcourse) I'm doing ok (probably the best ever in my life) but I stopped playing guitar for 25 years. I always wonder where I would be if I followed my original plan. I think even a session guitarist would have been making it for me. We all know that it could propell a guitarist (e.g. Jimmie Page).
I have been playing guitar again since Nov; a GMC member since Feb. I want to shred! I have surpassed my level of playing and am continuing to go forward. Scales, Riffs, learning songs. I'm trying to catch up on 25 years of strings. I probably would be that session guitarist. Ya know what I think I want my third career to be just that. I'm not gonna let age stop me mentally or physically (arthritus s&^s). I recently met Larry Carlton and he pointed out that you never stop learning the guitar. The teacher is always the student.
Ya got to do what ya got to do. I recommend always have a plan B to keep the rent paid and gas in the car. (After all ya got to get to the gigs) Stay healty! Live good (exercise, and eat right). Play guitar.
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 3 2007, 09:12 PM
Fantastic thread - you guys share my opinion and are very supportive!
I am 25 and I am learning to sing from scratch - no one is going to tell my I'm too old. (If they do I'll growl in their face!).
That's the spirit!
Kris
Posted by: The Uncreator Sep 3 2007, 09:13 PM
Wow kris, in that picture you look pretty manly, you must have not shaved in months!!!
Posted by: edgor67 Sep 3 2007, 09:19 PM
Kris, you may want to check that right incisor. You may need a cap. It is said to sing in church is twice a prayer. When I don't sing in church it is 3 times a blessing. I am also dabbling with voice. My range starts at the G below middle C. Scary.
g
Posted by: MickeM Sep 3 2007, 09:46 PM
You already got the best of advice!
I'd just like to add - quit telling people what your plans are, that's only fuel for their fire and I'm sorry to say but there are some out there who want nothing else but to see other people fail. And when they tell you something is not doable you have to think about if they say it to you out of concern or if they are trying to block your way.
I'm sure there's a word for it in other languages too but in Sweden we say "Jantelagen" - It's the law about that noone is allowed to own something that's better or have a life situation that better than anyone else. Neither are you allowed to succeed or even think you have the possibility to make something out over what's concidered normal.
So... stop talking, just show them!
Posted by: edgor67 Sep 3 2007, 09:57 PM
MickeM,
You know you are right. There are just some people who don't what people to have success. I don't understand the psyche!
Jantelagen in the game of poker is called ...playing your cards close to your vest.
Excellent point. SHRED ON!
g
Posted by: Davidian Sep 4 2007, 12:21 AM
Wow, some very nice posts here. I'm 17 too and really cool to read all those posts!
ow and shredmandan when you're 17, you can drink bear, lots of it !!
Posted by: Wallimann Sep 4 2007, 12:37 AM
Don't be discouraged man,
I've been told that over and over..
But if it's in you there is no one who can stop you from becoming what you will one day.
One of my friends started playing when he was 28 and makes a living out of it now..
Posted by: botoxfox Sep 4 2007, 12:39 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jante_Law.
Posted by: RobM Sep 4 2007, 04:34 AM
I'm currently 47 and all my life I've wanted to do nothing but be real good at the guitar. I started playing around your age then one day my guitar teacher showed up at my house for a lesson and my friends started laughing at me because I was going to leave and go to my lesson. I didn't go and ended up quitting the guitar until this past father's day. All my life I have regretted quitting that day. Just imagine how good I'd be if I had continued taking lessons and playing the guitar? That would have been 30+ years of playing experience.
Please don't do what I did, keep playing and practicing and don't let yourself down. Continue on with your life's dream and if you work hard enough at it, you "WILL" make it! Good luck, I know you can do it!
Posted by: chast Sep 4 2007, 04:50 AM
Hey, don't worry about your age, it really doesnt matter as long as you work hard.
A good example is Pat Martino:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Martino
Just read what happened to him, maybe it will give you some boost
Posted by: Bitey Sep 4 2007, 04:54 AM
I am only 17 too and I never let people get me down. Just tell them atleast I haven't given up on my dreams like you, I am sorry I don't want to sit in a cubical all day living a horrible life. lol Look at Ozzy Osbourne, if he could make it, anyone can.
Posted by: MickeM Sep 4 2007, 05:02 AM
HEY!!! I'm offended by that!!!
I don't sit in a cubical but I have a horrible life, What's wrong with that?
Posted by: tonymiro Sep 4 2007, 08:06 AM
Have to say that at the age of 43 the things that I most regret in my life tend not to be things I did but things I didn't do - and too often didn't do because others told me not to! Stick with it.
Cheers,
Tony
Posted by: Ayen Sep 4 2007, 08:47 AM
He's Swedish though, so that's probably just a few hours after shaving
.I wish I could grow a decent moustache/beard
Posted by: white eagle Sep 4 2007, 12:04 PM
thats the way I though a well when I was younger
There aint no age limit on music man
If you are a guitar man let it ring ask BB what he thinks about age
Sure you face don't hold its shine forever but in you music shine on you crazy diamond
Posted by: Eat-Sleep-andJam Sep 5 2007, 09:05 AM
There aint no age limit on music man
If you are a guitar man let it ring ask BB what he thinks about age
Sure you face don't hold its shine forever but in you music shine on you crazy diamond
Ladies and Gentlemen , Mr.Neil Diamond
Posted by: Ibanezium Sep 6 2007, 05:01 AM
don't care what the say!
But personally I think that going pro should never be the motivation.
Posted by: visi0n Sep 15 2007, 08:39 AM
If there is a will .. Then there will be a way
My dream is also to be a great proffesional guitarist like my hero's ( Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Andy Timmons )
And i believe that i will be someday a great proffesional guitarist .. !!
Just believe in it
Posted by: ace_frehely Sep 15 2007, 12:52 PM
DONT LISTEN TO THEM!!!! its up to u if i can go all the way..if u listen to them ur goal will be harder to accomplish...dont listen to anybody that thinks you cant do it....anybody can do if u put ur mind to it!!!!!
Posted by: TheReturnFC-Ibanez Oct 2 2007, 11:21 AM
these post are really great!!
I was also downed 2 days ago but i was still holding guitar tidy in my hand that day.
It was really hard if you just want to sit with your guitar all days&nights long.
I think that is really useless. I couldn't socialized because of guitar in my school much.
I just spend time on guitar and listen to song. The only reason?
"I want to make people happy and see their smile when they listen to my music! Although it will not be a masterpiece but as long as it last it show how much effort of your dedicated soul put in those piece."
I would say that song last your soul though you are not here on this earth but heaven or hell or nowhere!
I felt this way because my inspired guitarist is "Slash-GnR"
Most of this famous songs are not really fast.
They sound good instead...
I wish I could be like him..."Master of Melody not Maximized Melted-lody"
Although I love rocks and metals but still if melody is not good I don't really say that i have complete my dream! And I also like shred. It's not bad!
Let see..Thank for another motivations they are really good I feel better now.
I would keep myself on this track even though I won't be joining music college or any degrees(17 years old) (I think these are not really important. To be what you are{Rock metal pop jazz or blue} is a serious issue for yourself!)
Posted by: Andrew Smith Oct 2 2007, 01:48 PM
I've been told that I would never become a producer (I gave up on becoming a pro guitarist..... I don't have the patience enough to practice everything I need to. I just love to play...not practice. I could still become a pro one day but it is very unlikely....besides that I hate being in front of a lot of people) When I said I want to go into production everyone told me I had a snowballs chance in hell. I set out to prove them wrong and I will be attending production school in the next year or so. I said screw it I have a dream and I have to follow it. I always thought that if I didn't at least try to live my dreams then what would happen when I am 65. Would I look back and say "I wish & wonder" instead of "I tried my best and it wasn't for me." Or better yet "I am a record producer, or guitarist, or bassist or whatever so up yours!!!" You just have to learn to forget what they said. Do what you want. If you want to become a guitarist bad enough it will happen. Shove it down their faces, and show them....hell maybe we can work together one day. And never forget the words of Eric Cartman.... "Follow your dreams. You can achieve your goals. Beefcake....BEEFCAKE!!!!"
Posted by: Robin Oct 2 2007, 10:21 PM
Well said!
Posted by: Melvyn Jan 29 2008, 03:04 PM
He also played Bassoon
Posted by: Goliath Jan 29 2008, 03:22 PM
are you kidding? Just listen to how many terrible bands are out there, of course you can make it! Look at Kurt Cobain, he was an absolutely abysmal guitarist and is possibly one of the most renowned. I mean you might have to make some sacrifices. You're not going to make great cash from the word "Go", but it's definitely doable. Listen to Lemmy from Motorhead or Willie Adler and Mark Moton from Lamb of God, they both used to live in their bands using their amps as pillows.
You can do it, just practice like crazy and practice hard. If you don't already listen to recordings of yourself playing, you might start doing that, I just started that yesterday and I realized just how sloppy some of the stuff I "mastered" is, so I hit it with renewed enthusiasm and really attempt mastery.
Posted by: JWBauer Jan 29 2008, 04:14 PM
You are never to old to start. It just takes determination and a lot of practice. Everyone here has posted such great comments and I am glad that this thread was started. I believe that it should serve as an inspiration for all of us.
I too gave up my dreams of having a music career because my parents told me what a waste of time it would be. I tried to go to school but it just didn't feel right. I joined the military and served for nine years and it didn't feel right. I have held several different jobs in the past few yearsand they all just barely paid the bills but I was semi-happy because my wife and two children were taken care of. Now, at the age of 44, my children are going off on their own and my wife is encouraging me to pursue my goals. She purhased me my first electric guitar, a decent amp for practice, and some of the basic things needed for getting started in the 'business'. We really didn't have the money and now we are living in a cheesy motel but I am pursuing my dream.
A part of the dream is to open a little restaurant/roadhose with my wife's mother and sisters with a little band stand so that newbands that are just starting out can have a little place to try out their skills. This will also give me an opportunity to perform once in a while, on a stage, in front of a live audience.
Since I have joined GMC, I have relly been motivated on the guitar and everytime I hear a nice lick on the radio I get excited. Use this community to learn and try out and perfect "your style". Join in on some collaborations and hear what people have to say about your music to make you stronger. Stay away from those negative ninnies. You can do it. Believe in yourself and practice. We are all behind you here at GMC because I believe we all share your dream.
Posted by: SLASH91 Jan 29 2008, 05:35 PM
I'm so happy that we have threads like this; It makes me get so motivated about practicing. I don't want to live my life in a cubicle, that's for sure. Music is the ONLY thing that interests me.
Posted by: Nemanja Jan 29 2008, 08:14 PM
17.....you have nothing to wory about...it comes down to this:parcitse,love for music,practise....
Posted by: Melvyn Jan 29 2008, 08:53 PM
Im 17, and my parents thought music was such a waste of time they forced me to take Maths and Physics in college (Fortunately, im not that bad at either) but i still took Music and Music Technology
Dont worry about other people getting you down, the best thing to do when that happens is to pick up your guitar and show them wrong
Dont start bassoon
Posted by: Duncan Jan 29 2008, 09:23 PM
Yeah criticism like that is useless and people who give it are uneducated and ill informed. I've been playing guitar for about 3/4 years now, and when I lived at home I never got one good word out of my mother. It was always 'what's that racket' or something similar. The only person I ever got encouragement off was my next door neighbour who was an absolute top bloke. Even played with Clapton back in the day.
The fact is you know if you are playing something right, therefore you know if you are doing well. If anyone who doesn't play guitar gives you any non-constructive criticism, ignore it, because chances are they don't know what they are talking about.
Posted by: sam47 Jan 31 2008, 03:05 AM
Hey Guitarman700, I'm 47 ,started playing about 4 yrs ago. With regularity about 2yrs ago. EVERYONE thinks I'm wasting my time! ( except the folks here!). I've been practicing some Tom Petty tunes the last two weeks and though they're not anything greatly technical they are fun to play and that's what I'm doing this for. Because it's fun and when people have heard me play something ,even though it's not perfect, the look on their face is pricelsss! I love it whan they say ,"Damn Sam!"
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