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), and - if possible - for playing at more or less neighbor-friendly volume in my appartment. If the last thing is not possible, just forget the idea. Priority is on band play.
) I first had when visiting some stores. I know there are a lot of different preferences for 1x12" or 4x12", and I'm still open for suggestions, not set on 2x12".
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Mar 10 2009, 05:30 PM
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You should consider the ENGL Savage too, it's basically a Blackmore with more knobs
 Maybe you could even get an used ENGL Special Edition, which is probably one of the most versatile amps out there. Maybe you should also consider getting different specialized amps. For example Blackheart makes cheap low Wattage amps that you can crank to get Power Tube distortion which is great for blues and classic rock. The tiny terror also plays in this area. For metal on the other Hand most of the distortion comes from the preamp, so you usually want more headroom. And speaking of weight, the ENGL cabs are very heavy. I think they're about 50kg (412 Pro). And the XXL is probably even heavier. -------------------- My Website | My Gear | Elixir Nanoweb Strings Review | Installing Schaller Security Locks
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Mar 11 2009, 09:25 AM
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Bringing it down to one amp from your list that I think would suit you I'd say Orange Rockerverb 50.
If I get to choose two I'd put the Rockerverb up against a 50W JVM. Hope you'll find your amp. -------------------- My bands homepage
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Mar 11 2009, 02:56 PM
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I have Engl Sovereign 2x12 combo and I love it,
tons of extra great and powerful gain for everything from old school to uber brutal metal, but cleans and ODs is what I like even better on this amp. It's like 2400-2500 euros brand new, I bought a show room model for 1980 euros tho. You can switch channels/fx loop/ reverb etc using MIDI or via ENGL foot controller. -------------------- Youtube
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Mar 12 2009, 01:37 AM
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Hmm tough choice, tough choice! 2500e a very nice figure so you can choose something very good for that. I must say you did your job pretty well, analyzing your needs and products.
I would say for your needs a 50W tube amp is very reasonable power rating. This narrows down the search to 45-60W amps. If you plan to carry it around, the weight could be a problem. If you have somebody to help you out then combo is a good solution. 2x12 combos can be a bit heavy, but with handles on the side they can be more practical. head+cab means that you have 2x20kg instead of 1x35kg of gear. Think hard what is better, I cannot help here, I'll give both combo and H+C suggestions. guitar amp: 1. 45-60W combo/head+cab You will need 2x12 speakers as they give a lot to the sound, so 2x12 is a must for that kind of money. The way I see it - if you're buying a 2,5K amp it should have at least 2x12 cab to play that nice sound that comes from the amp. guitar amp: 1. 45-60W combo/head+cab 2. 2x12 speakers One more very important thing is the number or channels - it should have 3 of them, this is optimal IMO. With 2 channels you need a boost pedal, and 4 are even better of course. This narrows down the search even more: guitar amp: 1. 45-60W combo/head+cab 2. 2x12 speakers 3. more than 2 channels/modes preferably Suggestions: Marshall JVM205H 50-watt All-tube Guitar Amp Head with 2 Channels, 3 Modes, Reverb, Effects Loops, MIDI switching, Line Out, and Programmable Footswitch  ENGL SCREAMER HEAD E 335  Fender Super-Sonic Head 60W Guitar Amp Head with Two Channels, Effects Loop, and Switchable Impedance  Marshall JVM205C 50-watt All-tube Guitar Combo Amp with 1 x 12" Vintage Speaker, 1 x 12" Modern Speaker, 2 Channels, 3 Modes, Reverb, Effects Loops, MIDI switching, Line Out, and Programmable Footswitch  ENGL SOUVEREIGN 2x12" Combo E 368  Egnater Renegade-50 2x12" Combo  -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Mar 12 2009, 02:57 AM
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OH!!! Checkout the Egnater Tour Master. It has the 10/25/50/100 watt switch on the back, and comes in many combo/head forms. 4 channels with many modes. Absolute Beast if you like to have tons of features.
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Mar 12 2009, 11:13 PM
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Thank you all for your effort and the really helpful suggestions. I'm glad you took the time to read through the novel I wrote and share your experience. Thumbs up!
 So this is the current situation:As the first impression is right most of the time, I'll go with head + cab, since I rather walk twice with half the load.  Regarding racks, I don't know anything about them, but read they are even bulkier and heavier than regular amps are already. Also, since I already have that multi-fx floor board, I'm not sure if the rack solution is that good for me. The whole amp world is new to me already and I am still struggling to not lose track of the many options there are. Testing stuff out of production (e.g. the recommended Mesa Mark IV) is pretty hard for me as they won't have that stuff on the fair and it's not available at my trusted local store. Kinda the same problem I see with Egnater. Never heard this name before nor saw it in any store. Are they exotic here? So here are the heads you gave positive feedback for: (prices are ballpark figures for new amps from the big German online stores)
And here are the heads I didn't get feedback for, yet. I keep asking for them since I really like Sircraigery's video. The local store only has a rectifier for sale, and as I understand it, these two amps are totally different. The AC30 was recommended by a friend of mine and I liked the stuff I saw on youtube. Is this a good amp for the stuff I need it for? If yes, is the HH version worth the premium compared to the CCH?
I really like that the original list I posted is now a bit shorter with new entries, too. If someone can enlighten me further, be it with additional info to the already recommended ones or with some info to the Mesa Boogie Express or the Vox AC30, I will greatly appreciate it. |
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Mar 12 2009, 11:50 PM
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I don't think the ac30 would make a good metal amp. Without a pedal it would probably even be unusable for metal. Also I don't think it's a very versatile. But I don't have much experience with this amp, played it in a music store and read some things about it but that's it.
The boogie might be an option but I've never played one so I can't tell anything about it. sargal, I've never ever seen an egnater in Switzerland either. Jonas This post has been edited by 29a: Mar 12 2009, 11:54 PM -------------------- My Website | My Gear | Elixir Nanoweb Strings Review | Installing Schaller Security Locks
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Mar 13 2009, 12:53 AM
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i agree with 29a and mattacuk, AC30 is probably not the best solution for your budget - there are great options on your list:
* Orange Rockerverb 50 (EUR 1400) - great sound, not too flexible * Engl E335 Screamer (EUR 1000) - my recommendation * Marshall JVM 205 (EUR 1100) - great sound, not so great build quality * Hughes & Kettner Triamp (EUR 2700) - my recommendation * Hughes & Kettner Trilogy (EUR1500) - my recommendation * Hughes & Kettner Switchblade (EUR 1200) - great but has multiFX * Engl E610 Savage (EUR 1900) - too strong * Engl E670 Savage SE (EUR 3000) - overkill, too pricey * Mesa Boogie Express 5:50 (EUR 1700) - my recommendation -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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