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Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 16 2014, 10:57 PM

This situation happened with Cirse during more than 7 years... we had an old Van and used to put there all our gear to go to gigs in which most of the times we had to pay for playing.. this is hard, but it's passion, it's following a dream.

did this happen to you? or maybe.. does this happen to you nowadays?

Posted by: jstcrsn May 16 2014, 11:36 PM

yes , and several times the only ones there were our wives

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 17 2014, 01:09 AM

so, in the end, those $50 are paid by ourselves...

Posted by: SeeJay May 17 2014, 05:51 AM

I love when I see that picture float around.

A few years ago I decided to be a smart musician. You have to say no to some gigs you don't want to, you have to say yes to gigs you never thought you would have to. You have to stay modest with your living and work with what you have sometimes. . . .

But there is a way to do it and do it well. I have a decent car, good gear, and live a full financially sound life.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 17 2014, 07:50 AM

If I only had a dollar for each time this scenario came to reality

I think Gabi also has some stories, so I will let him begin with the first one

Posted by: Ben Higgins May 17 2014, 12:49 PM

100 miles for a $50 gig ???

100 miles for a $0 gig is closer to the truth ! :

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 17 2014, 01:48 PM

That picture is (unfortunately) very true.

If you try to charge the travel costs, the usual question they have is if this is the vehicle you are traveling in :



OR this one :



.... what would they like our full band + gear to travel in (costs wise) :

Posted by: Ben Higgins May 17 2014, 03:13 PM

Oh look ! The band's arrived !

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 17 2014, 03:35 PM

hahaha I don't want to count the quantity of times this happened... we could multiply 8 (years) x 30 (gigs per year)? Let's forget this...





yeah!! but this was the reality:

Posted by: Ben Higgins May 17 2014, 07:32 PM

Oh wow.... travelling in style

Posted by: SeeJay May 17 2014, 10:15 PM

HEY! where'd you find a picture of my old van?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 18 2014, 11:21 AM

Heh, I know all these situations all too well. We are at the point at which we can cover travel and accommodation costs alongside the fees for our sound engineer and two tech crew members, but we end up with nothing for us - which is awesome given the situation in which we don't end up paying for anything actually

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 18 2014, 04:59 PM

hahaha that's not ours, I couldn't find a pic, but it looks exactly like that one!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 19 2014, 10:03 PM

We also use a 9 seats van with a big space in the back in which we store the instruments. It has seen A LOT! With the first occasion, I will show it to you guys in a pic

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 22 2014, 05:41 PM

Looking forward the pic!!

Posted by: SeeJay May 23 2014, 05:02 AM

I was in a van and we had a black van we endearingly named Black Betty.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 23 2014, 06:57 AM

Ours has 'Phoenix' written on it as it used to belong to the famous Romanian band called like that

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 26 2014, 12:33 AM

Ours is called "Norma" which is a name suitable for an old woman.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 26 2014, 07:34 AM

Or...this band

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 26 2014, 04:53 PM

hahah no, more related to a woman like this one which is called Norma.