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Posted by: Barnea May 9 2008, 12:20 PM

I've recently seen a guitar very similar to (instructor) Pavel's guitar.
an Ibanez JEM7v :

neck type - 3pc JEM neck
body - Alder body
fret - W/6105 frets
bridge - Edge Pro bridge
neck pu - DiMarzio® Evolution® (H) neck pu
middle pu - DiMarzio® Evolution® (S) mid pu
bridge pu - DiMarzio® Evolution® (H) bridge pu

It costs abou 2500$. Isn't that a little expensive? (a sincere question, i have no idea)

if not this, i'll look for a Gibson SG.

Currently i have a standart fender stratocaster.

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion May 9 2008, 12:22 PM

Is it an Ibanez guitar? The pick ups are great.

Posted by: RIP Dime May 9 2008, 12:27 PM

Seems a little high... http://www.music123.com/Ibanez-JEM7V-Steve-Vai-Signature-Electric-Guitar-519833-i1150755.Music123

It's listed there for $2,200.

Posted by: DeepRoots May 9 2008, 12:27 PM

I wouldn't say a good price...good for me would be about $10..

But seriously- yeh i'm fairly sure thats the standard price a Jem will set you back- here in the UK we have to pay quite a bit more- so consider yourself lucky!!

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion May 9 2008, 12:29 PM

I don't think I can read lol

Posted by: Tomotoms May 9 2008, 01:06 PM

That's exactly the same as Pavel's guitar (unless he got an earlier model with an Edge Temelo rather than the Edge Pro).

Fantastic guitar and yes, that is how much it costs.

In the U.K. the going rate is about £1,400 which is about $2,700

Yes it is an Ibanez. Here is a link to the review: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=4862

Posted by: DeepRoots May 9 2008, 01:10 PM

Daylight robbery

Posted by: Barnea May 9 2008, 01:15 PM

thanks for all of the replys.

my second option is a cheaper one:

Gibson SG 61 REISSUE

with 57' classic humbuckers and a mahagony neck..

it's 2300$

(I live in israel, so the price here is in NIS but i'm translating it to $)


OR

a gibson les paul standart 60's neck
whichcosts a little more- 3000$...

Posted by: Tomotoms May 9 2008, 01:17 PM

Not a JEM fan?






IMO they are both great guitars but very different.
The JEM (to me) is more screamy and cutting the SG more thuddy and crackely (it's hard descrbing sounds!)
Also the JEM has 24 frets, locks on the strings and a tremelo system, the SG doesn't.

I recommend you play both and go for which one you prefer the feel and the sound of - you have to try it out yourself really to know.

Posted by: Smells May 9 2008, 01:20 PM

I think he just meant the price,

I`m not a huge fan of the Jem or Ibanez in general, its all horses for courses really, ya gotta try them all out especially at that higher end of the market, you may be suprised at what you walk away with sometimes.

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion May 9 2008, 01:21 PM

Would never have guessed Thuddy and Crackly That sounds like no guitar I've ever played

Posted by: Tomotoms May 9 2008, 01:21 PM

I'm sure a lot of people are going to disagree with me on this one...but if you're going to get the Les Paul Standard I recommend you try out the Les Paul Studio as well as it is a lot cheaper and personally I prefer it (although willing to accept most people prefer the Standard)

What sort of style do you play?

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn May 9 2008, 01:33 PM

I too have a Jem 7v and it is an awesome guitar, but you do pay a premium for it.

If you want osmething that is pretty much as good for a cheaper price look at Ibanez prestige ranges, also check out my review of the Jem here:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=4862

Its hard to beat if you want a fast guitar with a versatile sound, on the other hand, to me it doesn't have its own personality like an LP or a Strat.

For Shred it is to be aspired to, for other styles - Meh, it works fine but may not be right for you.

I personally have not regretted a second of its ownership, it is extremely high quality and plays great!

Posted by: audiopaal May 9 2008, 01:34 PM

And now imagine what it costs here in Norway, 4400-4500 dollars

Posted by: RIP Dime May 9 2008, 01:56 PM

Dude, you serious? That sucks so hard.
But ya, Barnea, if you're looking for a guitar to satisfy all your needs, it's probably good for you to a guitar store, and try them out yourself, I'm sure you'll fall in love with one!

Posted by: Harlequin May 9 2008, 02:46 PM

In Germany you also have to pay around 2400 Euro (3700$)

Posted by: Gus May 9 2008, 03:45 PM

I was thinking of buying a JEM. But then I tested Ibanez prestige RGT 320q. This one is almost in JEM price range, but it is a even better guitar in my opinion. In other words, you do not pay the extra for being signature...

By the way, here in Denmark I paid about the german price. In Brazil it would have been the Norway price or more

Posted by: Marcus Siepen May 9 2008, 04:08 PM

Just forget about the Jem and get the Les Paul No, seriously, as the others already said, the price seems to be normal, but as always, my advice would be to try all of those guitars and then pick the one that you like most in the end.

Posted by: MickeM May 9 2008, 04:13 PM

It's the same price in Sweden
I'm so lucky I don't want one, I want a Fender Strat, no I NEED a Strat

Posted by: Tomotoms May 9 2008, 04:19 PM

Here the RGT 320q http://www.giggear.co.uk/home/index.php?m=shop&prodid=3715 is more expensive than the JEM?!?

The RGT 320q looks really cool, but doesn't have any single coils (I prefer the pick-ups in the JEM too )

Posted by: Gus May 9 2008, 06:59 PM

When I bought it was cheaper than JEM. It seems JEM price went just a little bit down, while 320q is fixed...
Not having the middle single coil is not really a problem. It is more of a choice. The intermediate positions still sound single coil. In the middle position of RGT 320q is double humbucker, while the JEM will use the middle single coil. From what I researched the 320q pickups are pretty much PAF pros. So it is also a matter of choice.

Posted by: FrankW May 10 2008, 12:20 AM

[quote name='Barnea' date='May 9 2008, 01:15 PM' post='191511']
thanks for all of the replys.

Barnea, I'm sure you're aware that the JEM is a different animal somewhat, in that while you get humbucking tones from all of your choices,(except the Strat), the JEM also gives you vibrato options you can't get from any of the other guitars you mentioned, (even the Strat where tuning problems are concerned). It really depends on what style you are going for. Hope this helps.

Posted by: Barnea May 10 2008, 09:23 PM

Hey guys! Thank you so much for all of the fast replys and the very good responses.

As I mentioned above, I now have a basic Fender Stratocaster (that i bought for about 1000$) a little after I started playin (untill than I only had a classic guitar that belonged to my father).

When I was looking for an electrical guitar my 2 possibilities were the stratocaster and a Jackson Dinkey. I really wanted a Jackson guitar since Metal is defentaly my preffered type of music, but I went on the stratocaster since I knew that i can't only play metal, and the stratocaster basicly fits every style..

Now after playing the guitar about 4-5 years i've decided i want a guitar that will be fit my style the best.
1. The Gibson SG i very cool looking, the fact that the neck begins when the body ends could be useful when playing fast metal solos on the higher frets, but I don't know if it's sound is best for me.

2. Gibson Les Paul if i choose this guitar it means i'll go on playing cleaner things more, since it has a very smooth voice (in my opinion) that fits best distortion-less playin.

3. the Ibanez JEM is the guitar I like the most here since I heard it a couple of time (never played on it though) and it has a very sharp voice which I like. If I go on that guitar, I'll probably play more metal on it.

well now I just need to get money, and go to actually play on these guitars..

Posted by: Trond Vold May 10 2008, 09:48 PM

If you like metal, then you cant go wrong with a Jackson. Try out a SLSMG if you get the chance, it packs a punch and handles great. + it wont cost you an arm.

I like Ibanezes alot though, i have an RG and i think it's a very versatile guitar. But i'm not a JEM fan.. i think they are seriously overpriced and there's a huge hole in them!

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 10 2008, 09:52 PM

If you need something for heavy playing, I suggest you check out those GIbsons and possible Jacksons too if you can find a good piece. Trond has a nice model with great pickups, so if you find something similar in the stores around you that would be great. With good ol' Gibson on the other hand - you really can't go wrong

Posted by: Barnea May 11 2008, 06:32 PM

wait, i thought the ibanez JEM is good for metal, no?

there is a various of Jacksons at the guitar store i'm going to visit such as

Jackson PC1 Phil Collen (3500$)
Jackson SL2H Soloist Yellow Bengal (3700$)
and the cheaper ones such as the WRMG Warrior and the DK2M Dinkey (Snowhite) but i want a better quality guitar than these two.

Posted by: Gus May 11 2008, 08:53 PM

JEM is a versatile guitar, so it should be fine for metal. But if you are really into metal you should try RG or S prestige series. By the way, they are also versatile. I play hard rock, funky, blues, whatever with mine...
I never had the chance to play a soloist. From internet reviews the SL1 seems to be pretty much on pair to Ibanez RGT 320q (neck-thru, ultimate playabiliity, ...)

If you have the possibility to put your hands on this:
http://www.dragonforce.com/herman_ibanez_e-gen18tvf.php
That should be the ultimate Ibanez metal guitar. Specs are insane!

Posted by: Joe Kataldo May 11 2008, 09:02 PM

Too expensive, to me price doesn't match the quality.

should cost at least 800$$$, I suppose you pay the name on it a lot more than the guitar itself...sorry it's just what I think

Buyt any other ibanez with low pro edge instead and maybe change the pick-ups

Posted by: Barnea May 12 2008, 11:27 AM

lol I coudln't find this guitar (E-GEN) anywhere on israeli internet (and ofcourse not on guitar websites..) i phoned my guitar shop (biggest one in israel) and they don't have anything named like that.. :\ well i must play the JEM to decide, or take a Jackson.

Posted by: Tomotoms May 12 2008, 12:10 PM

Is the Egen out yet? I've been dying to have a go on one. It looks great!

I just called the Ibanez distributors in the U.K. here the Egen will not be out until late summer and will have a whopping price tag of £1,800 ($3,500)

That is so much money!