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post Oct 13 2018, 02:54 PM
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post Oct 13 2018, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE (MisterM @ Oct 13 2018, 07:17 AM) *
Hi Gab, Phil

Here my Line
I shall to work to improve it
Video take soon

https://soundcloud.com/guitare-capture/work-on-line-gabs-collab-blues



Hi mate!!! This is so inspiring!! I love your phrasing and tone here. Thanks a lot for joining this collab. smile.gif


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post Oct 13 2018, 04:14 PM
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If you give a response, Maybe we will try to get a new licks, me or Phil ?

Why Not

I will try to make a new take with more dynamic on the last licks
it doesn't sound as I'll want

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post Oct 13 2018, 09:08 PM
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Hola Gab,

I'm completely out of ideas for this one at the moment so I did this. It's a total cheat really but I just felt like doing it cool.gif laugh.gif

If you think it can work for this workshop I can do a video but as I said it's a cheat really. wink.gif


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post Oct 14 2018, 07:28 AM
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Hi Phil

Your take is good, good tone, good feeling

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post Oct 14 2018, 10:11 AM
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Thanks buddy, which take do you mean? The video or the last soundcloud?

Your take is sweet, your tone is great too. I like the way you use a lot of the neck, something I struggle with at the moment.

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post Oct 14 2018, 11:30 AM
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Hi Phil

The Last soundcloud is good

If you want, You can try to answer has my line, we've got time wink.gif



Here my new take, same but I feel better



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post Oct 14 2018, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 13 2018, 05:08 PM) *
Hola Gab,

I'm completely out of ideas for this one at the moment so I did this. It's a total cheat really but I just felt like doing it cool.gif laugh.gif

If you think it can work for this workshop I can do a video but as I said it's a cheat really. wink.gif


https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/jammin-with-gab-iii-blues-e-denes



Hi Phil! It sounds good mate! It can work, but I have a question. How is your approach to soloing over this one? What scale are you using? Are you following chords?

QUOTE (MisterM @ Oct 14 2018, 07:30 AM) *
Hi Phil

The Last soundcloud is good

If you want, You can try to answer has my line, we've got time wink.gif



Here my new take, same but I feel better



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Another cool take MisterM! This sounds very good!!

I think that it can be interesting to see you interact. smile.gif


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post Oct 14 2018, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 14 2018, 04:07 PM) *
Hi Phil! It sounds good mate! It can work, but I have a question. How is your approach to soloing over this one? What scale are you using? Are you following chords?


Thanks Gab,
That is just that blues solo lesson I was sprog on but had to stop because the backing was wrong, do you remember it? It was in E minor but for this I've used E major pentatonic with root on low E string, 12th fret. That's why I said it was a cheat because it's just that solo in a different key.

In my video take I'm using the same scale, same position. I really struggle to follow chords, I have tried in the past but it seems to be a big jump in skill from where I am now. I couldn't find any lessons here or on YouTube that break you in gently to following chords so I always tend to stay in the one position that covers the key. Is that wrong? I only really know one scale shape, minor pentatonic, from low E string root, two notes per string 1, 4, 1, 3, 1, 3, 1, 3, 1, 4, 1, 4 and obviously the same shape but root on the pinky for major. I use the extended form on these two takes.

I guess I should really push myself with following chords but every time I've tried I've felt that it's a mountain too steep for me and a I said, I haven't found a gentle slope to start on. I've watched THIS, THIS, THIS, and a few others and all they did was confuse me.

I've tried what I guess is the most basic way and that is to keep the same pentatonic shape and move along the neck to where the root is on the 6th string, this gets messy for me and transitions in the solo from one chord to another are tricky.

I've also just noticed that it is in 12/8 could that be affecting how it feels to me?

I hope all this makes sense, just writing this information has given me anxiety unsure.gif . I'm hoping one day I get a light bulb moment, the penny drops and I can't understand why I couldn't understand it, fingers crossed.

Phil

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I've only posted this in case anyone read my previous post before I heavily edited it, please go back to the one immediately above this and re-read wink.gif


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post Oct 15 2018, 09:54 AM
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Hi Phil

I can explain you my method to build a melody.
I know the scales, but I don't think wich note I have to play

1 - I listen to the backtrack and I play a first short licks, (I try to think a melody in my head)
2 - When the firts licks is good I record it with "cubase"



3 - I create a new track
4 - I listen my first licks
5 - I try to create a 2d licks, a kind of answer



6 - I repete the operation as much as is needful



7 - When I have create a complet line, I try to improve some licks with target note

To finish, I learn my own lesson to restitute a good take in one shot

Important : All this can't buit in a one day. I need sometimes several days
For this one, I worked 1h/Day during 3 days


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I hope that it will give you a help

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Thank you for that MisterM, I appreciate you giving me your time, I will try that next time I try to build a solo smile.gif

The thing with these "jamming with Gab" series is to try to be spontanious as though you're at a jam session with friends and it's your turn to play. It's to develop your quick thinking playing.

It doesn't matter that you built a solo over time though, it's all good stuff and it's great to hear your takes for inspiration smile.gif

Thanks again for your time, I really appreciate your help smile.gif

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post Oct 15 2018, 03:52 PM
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Your welcome Phil smile.gif

spontaneity calls for automatisms.
To get these automatisms you have to practice a lot in order to have a tool box of licks

Improvising without its tools is not an easy thing.
My improvizations are less beautiful than the one I build.

Over time we will be able, but we must not skip the steps.

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post Oct 15 2018, 04:19 PM
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I know what you are saying, a constructed solo can be beautiful but it's a good skill to be able to improvise don't you think? Especially when playing with friends smile.gif


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post Oct 15 2018, 04:29 PM
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I agree with you
However, this requires so much work.

I like to improvise with friends
My problem is: The GMC lessons are so beautiful and sophisticated
I feel that my improvizations are bad if I compare.
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Yes, I know what you mean but I still think you should do an improvisation even if you don't share, just for your own development. Make sense? wink.gif


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post Oct 15 2018, 04:59 PM
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I try 1 time to week. smile.gif
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Hey guys! Great discussion here!

I really like MisterM approach and I think that it really works for this collab. I suggest going for a quick jam only to make possible that everybody can join, different levels, guys that have time or guys that are very busy but can give it one shot.

It's true that it requires hard work and practice to be able to improvise lines that sound as intersting as previously worked solos, but it's also something that can (should) be practiced.

On the other hand, I think that MisterM approach is a good way to compose a solo, incorporate new licks and become a better improviser. From what I could understand, he composes the different licks, but then he plays the licks, create variations and improvise other ideas. That's a killer way to build your own vocabulary on guitar, it can be even better than focusing only on "following the chords" exercises.

All these made me think that we could work on some lessons series on this topics. I always recommend Kris Jam School series because his approach to improvisation is very creative and inspiring. I'll work on something soon.



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post Oct 16 2018, 09:02 AM
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Hi gab,

An improvising lesson that asks for work on triads would be instructive.

The usual lessons usually show 2 scales. ex min pentatonic and MAJ pentatonc

However, no one really can play on the chords prgresssion with this scales.



Why not learn how to use triads on a simple chord progression as II V I ?

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