Tone Destruction, My favorite ways to make a mess... |
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Mar 26 2008, 04:07 AM |
One of the things that attracts me to the guitar is how some players have complely obliterated their tone. Stuff like what Ministry does with guitar sounds. Nirvana's running a SansAmp into a DS1 into a cranked distorting amp. That video of Adrian Belew laying some noise down for NIN's Ghosts project that I posted a little while back. I love that stuff. I don't want sweet warm tones, I want to sound like I'm breaking my gear into little pieces.
The thread about the ElectroHarmonix POG box got me thinking about a list of my favorite pedals. Here's that list....it'll probably be another one of my threads where people think I'm just sick and wrong, but that's ok. It's good therapy. The Interfax Harmonic Percolator. Interesting box. Only passes even-order harmonics so even when the distortion's cranked, there's still some of the original signal in there. Originals are almost impossible to find but there's a guy named Chuck Collins at Theremaniacs that makes an almost perfect clone. I have one. I love it, and I'll get some sound samples up some day. Here's a video of Steve Albini comparing an original one vs Barge Concepts' copy. http://www.gearwire.com/bp1-albini-comparison.html I came across Devi Ever's designs noticing them in some of the photos and videos related to NIN's Ghosts project. He has a bunch of interesting designs. The main theme seems to be putting two effects in one box and having control of how they're blended together. I watch this Dream Mangler video a lot...I love the guitar playing here, but the sounds that this pedal makes are fantastic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOYly0C7OSc Metasonix creates a special kind of sonic hell for guitar players as well as keyboard/synth players. They make stompboxes that use a lot of odd tubes. Lots of ridiculous distortion available in packages called Butt Probe and Scrotum Smasher and the Wretch Machine which is a tube synth. This year, they 're making their first guitar amp...the...uh..G-1000...a pair of 15-watt amps in a single head enclosure with 23 weird tubes. It's a beautifully disgusting machine but at $5k, I'll never have one. Scrotum Smasher with sound samples - here Butt Probe with sound samples - here The...uh...G-1000 with a video sample (foul language warning) - here That's all for now. I might add to this in the future if I think of it. -------------------- Guitars: ESP Semi-Hollow Eclipse, 1984 Ibanez Roadstar RS440, Peavey T-60, Daisy Rock Rock Candy Custom
Amps: Peavey Transformer 112, Epiphone Valve Jr head with custom 2x12 cab Pedals: Boss TU-2, Budda Bud-Wah, Chuck Collins Harmonic Percolator clone |
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Mar 27 2008, 04:04 PM |
I love those weird sounds that Korn get out of their guitars
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Mar 28 2008, 01:20 AM |
I always admire people that can do weird sounds on their instruments using various gear You gotta have a good knowledge of you gear to do that
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Mar 29 2008, 01:17 PM |
Agree with you Scott - I sort of first got into the tone 'when is a guitar not a guitar' through Adrian Belew back in the early 80s. I now use it to add atmosphere to soundscapes and stuff. Not guitar but I always find Steve Stapleton/Nurse with Wound an interesting, albeit at times challenging, listen although not essentially guitar stuff. For total sonic destruction early Controlled Bleeding/Paul Lemos (ie Hog Floor and before) were great - sort of stuff though that my wife refuses to let me play if she's in the house . If you haven't come across it then take a listen to Pat Metheny's 'Zero tolerance' cd - pure distorted guitar feedback into white noise.
For sound creation/destruction, to some extent apart from the distortion path, I'd also say stuff with oscillators and harmonisers can produce a lot of interesting/weird results. Nowadays for hardware I use an Eventide Eclipse for this sort of stuff. Cheers, Tony -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Mar 29 2008, 04:48 PM |
...I love the MoogerFrooger Same here Scott - quality stuff from Bob Moog although a bit expensive. -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Mar 29 2008, 08:58 PM |
Brilliant names on the Metasonix pedals I never heard of those before
I'm a huge noise/bizarre sounds fan, but i've never really taken the time to dig into the technology behind it all. I learned alot from these posts though, so thanks for the links. -------------------- Guitars: Schecter Stiletto Classic, Jackson SLSMG, Ibanez RG-380 Japan, Gibson Les Paul Studio
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Mar 30 2008, 02:47 PM |
What may be worth experimenting with if you have time though Scott are software programs like Reaktor that are open enough so that you can build your own vst effects. Again it's not cheap (though there are cheaper alternatives to Reaktor) and you need some spare time to experiment - and of course have to have a pc/mac interface - and maybe not as immediate, or as intuitive, as hardware. However the possible big plus here is it can be very open ended. Just a thought...
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