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Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 20 2020, 09:42 PM

As the COVID19 virus makes it's way around the world, I keep hearing of more and more school/shop closures etc. Many places have cancelled just about any gathering of people and some have made gathering in even small crowds a crime. Here in the states, schools are closed, most are not having class until next fall and going online instead. All of California is on lockdown. Most folks are just staying home if they can. I wanted to ask..

UPDATE: Illinois and Connecticut have issued "Stay at Home" orders as of today.

HOW HAS CORONA VIRUS IMPACTED YOUR DAILY LIFE?

Posted by: Mertay Mar 20 2020, 10:27 PM

I live somewhere that can be described as sort of a suburb area. This week was all about preparation be it supplies (mostly food), fixing stuff at house that was avoided, vaccine'ing cats...Although normally preferring to stay at home, the idea of having to stay at home still feels uneasy to me.

So I posted to the FB group of neighbors living around, in 1-2 weeks here the weather will be warm and I could give them guitar lessons in their gardens smile.gif got good response, I urged them to get a guitar as soon as possible cause we don't know how long music stores will be open. I also shared friends/ex-students about online teaching but to be honest likely I'll not charge too much, its more about me spending time useful. Maybe I'll work on a single of a friend of mine we'll see...only thing I don't want to do is watch online movies/shows too much (can get depressing after a while)

I also realized will need some exercise since I won't be walking much, already my arms/legs feel different cause of sitting down too much. I normally walk a lot and now must compensate for that, not really sure how I'll get used to that.

We reached near 400 patients and 4 deaths, but people still are realizing the situation new here. I read specially the young still refuse to stay at home in Italy, this 2-3 month period will be a serous test for everyones psychology.

Finally, I have this weird feeling once the virus thing comes to an end it will have a very positive effect on society. Part of me believes maybe we as modern-humans needed such punishment...


Posted by: Phil66 Mar 20 2020, 11:17 PM

At the moment we're just not going out on an evening for meals. I'm still going to work, wife is doing daily shopping for neighbours that can't get out. That's about it at the moment.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 20 2020, 11:31 PM

That's much milder than what we are seeing here from the sound of it. Each one of our states is "shutting down" one by one it seems. Is there still toilet paper in grocery stores over there? I went yesterday to get some supplies and the entire tissue aisle was just empty. Also rationing is in place. Signs are posted on the soft drinks and cereal saying "ONLY TWO ITEMS FROM THIS SECTION PER VISIT".

Anyone else seeing shopping restrictions?


QUOTE (Phil66 @ Mar 20 2020, 06:17 PM) *
At the moment we're just not going out on an evening for meals. I'm still going to work, wife is doing daily shopping for neighbours that can't get out. That's about it at the moment.


Posted by: Caelumamittendum Mar 20 2020, 11:35 PM

We're not seeing shopping restrictments yet as such, but they've put lines of tape on the floors indicating to keep distance in the mall.

It hasn't changed my daily life much, as I was literally just hanging around at home, playing guitar or games or trying to get my head in a good place.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 20 2020, 11:57 PM

Some folks really feel it's natures way of "culling the herd" as it were. It mostly impacts the aged and infirm it seems, in terms of mortality. There are a lot of older people on the planet. At the very least its important to try to find something positive to come out of all this. There has been so much suffering on a world wide scale that it would be tragic indeed if there were no upside to it at all.

QUOTE (Mertay @ Mar 20 2020, 05:27 PM) *
I live somewhere that can be described as sort of a suburb area. This week was all about preparation be it supplies (mostly food), fixing stuff at house that was avoided, vaccine'ing cats...Although normally preferring to stay at home, the idea of having to stay at home still feels uneasy to me.

Finally, I have this weird feeling once the virus thing comes to an end it will have a very positive effect on society. Part of me believes maybe we as modern-humans needed such punishment...


Posted by: Phil66 Mar 21 2020, 12:00 AM

Not too bad at the moment, just going to work and back not going out to pubs etc. This is now enforced.

Posted by: jstcrsn Mar 21 2020, 12:02 AM

well..It hasn't other than going places I usually go and don't anymore which was not that often , I am pissed at the idiots that I have to wade thru at the store that have weeks of supplies in their cart. for the past few months I have sort of been working from home so nothing has changed there.. I feel in about a week we will start seeing declining numbers and I could be way wrong but I will cross that bridge

Posted by: klasaine Mar 21 2020, 01:55 AM

All work ceased for me 10 days ago. I probably won't be working for several months.
My wife is working "remotely" (teacher).

My kid's gonna get a really long Easter vacation.

I have toilet paper and we're cool financially.

Obviously we're not "going out" anymore or having people over. That affects my wife more than me as she's super social.

I can still get my bike rides in.

The hoarding thing is a psychological fear reaction.

Posted by: DeGroot Mar 21 2020, 03:56 AM

We are to “stay at home” starting tomorrow at 5:00PM, here in Illinois. I don’t think we have as strict guidelines as some states. So far, it seems we will be able to walk outside with our dogs and maybe even go to parks with the social distancing standard. basically what most of us have been doing for the last week or so.

I’ve been working and will continue to work tomorrow on my usual day off to try and wrap up whatever I can. There is some gray area as to what is essential business so I may still continue to work. We are currently printing various Covid19 information for patients and guests at Midwest hospitals. They happen to be our biggest client so we may continue to operate for this reason. I work for a small company and as press operator I’m mostly isolated.

My Wife has been unemployed as of last week as she is in retail. We stand to loose some income but are all safe and sound. Just feel we have been a couple days behind of what we should be doing as a nation to control the spread of the virus.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 21 2020, 05:22 AM

I think you are doing the right thing. I hate to think I'd be one of those young people sprint break doing their best to spread the virus around. I'm pretty sure Florida is going to end up being a hotbed of outbreak post spring break.

QUOTE (DeGroot @ Mar 20 2020, 10:56 PM) *
We are to “stay at home” starting tomorrow at 5:00PM, here in Illinois. I don’t think we have as strict Just feel we have been a couple days behind of what we should be doing as a nation to control the spread of the virus.


Posted by: AK Rich Mar 21 2020, 06:25 AM

Stacie and I are just hanging at home for the most part although today I went out and plowed some snow that has fallen over the last couple of days. The mayor of Anchorage issued an order today which basically amounts to a shelter in place order but it sounds a little loose as I didn't really hear of a threat of enforcement or hard and fast rules on what work is considered essential. I am expecting some eyeglasses soon that I need to pick up in Anchorage that I hope that I can have sent to me if I can't pick them up. Out here in the valley there have been no such orders and things are buisiness as usual for the most part but have slowed down a bit. Grocery stores have started limiting the amounts of items purchased on some things, mainly toilet paper, paper towels, and facial tissue like Kleenex but also for some food items. Also there are designated hours for elderly shoppers and those with certain health conditions that makes them vulnerable to the virus. Those hours are 7am to 9am which gives those folks first shot of the day for getting supplies. So far there are 9 cases of folks testing positive for the virus in Anchorage, Fairbanks and Juneau. All of them travel related. So again, mostly we are just staying at home and avoiding much contact with others, especially me because of my health issues. We are stocked up pretty well and just riding it out.

Posted by: DeGroot Mar 21 2020, 12:55 PM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Mar 21 2020, 04:22 AM) *
I think you are doing the right thing. I hate to think I'd be one of those young people sprint break doing their best to spread the virus around. I'm pretty sure Florida is going to end up being a hotbed of outbreak post spring break.


I really can't believe Flordia haven't closed their beaches. I have a feeling that our outbreak in Chicago was partially from the weekend of pre St Pattys day bar hopping. The bars were packed which led to all the restaurants and bars closing the next day.


Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 21 2020, 08:22 PM

I was taken aback as well by Spring Break in Flordia going ahead as usual. It's going to result in a worsening of the outbreak more than likely. I was suprised Chicago didn't have the usual St pat parade to be honest as it's practically sacrilege not to have it smile.gif

Anyone else seeing changes in their local area?

QUOTE (DeGroot @ Mar 21 2020, 07:55 AM) *
I really can't believe Flordia haven't closed their beaches. I have a feeling that our outbreak in Chicago was partially from the weekend of pre St Pattys day bar hopping. The bars were packed which led to all the restaurants and bars closing the next day.


Posted by: Phil66 Mar 21 2020, 08:59 PM

What's crazy, the schools are shut and when you drive passed local parks, there are huge gatherings of kids, why aren't the parents keeping them in? FFS

Posted by: Mertay Mar 21 2020, 09:02 PM

They're removing the benches in parks in Turkey.

Posted by: AK Rich Mar 22 2020, 06:28 PM

Stacie and a neighbor went out for a few supplies yesterday and to pick up a prescription refill for me. She says there was no milk and a lot of the other dairy products were wiped out including most of the cheese. Canned soup and vegetables were pretty much cleaned out as well as things like like hot dogs, sausages and bacon and of course TP, PT's and facial tissue. She also had to wait about 25 minutes in line to get my meds but that was mainly due to one irate customer.

Edit: I just wanted to add that flour and sugar were also missing from the shelves.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Mar 22 2020, 09:29 PM

Sweden seems to be the only country in Europe that hasn't closed schools yet, but we have prepared for it.

Since I usually work from home this doesn't change that much for me, but my wife has started working from home as well. Also we have kept our kids home for almost two weeks since the recommendation is for us to avoid school if there is even the lightest hint of cold.

We also try to help our parents with grocery shopping. But it's not always easy since they are reluctant to change their habits...

Posted by: Phil66 Mar 22 2020, 09:35 PM

It's not like me but today I have been so full of anxiety I haven't been able to pick up my guitar. I sent a worker home last week with a sore throat, I know that's not one of the main symptoms but after speaking to a friend (I've not had contact with her) who is actually in isolation with the virus, hers started with a sore throat that she ignored. She's feeling better now but I'm really anxious, my stomach feels like a washing machine, I know most people will get over it and I shouldn't really be so worried but I can't get the feeling of impending doom out of my head.

Stay safe people.

Posted by: Mertay Mar 22 2020, 10:55 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Mar 22 2020, 08:35 PM) *
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I read a lot of people are going through a psychological phase (even panic attacks) as these are the days we adjust to isolation, so I think how you are right now is very normal and will get better quickly

Posted by: Phil66 Mar 22 2020, 11:00 PM

Thanks but I'm still having to work, we've just bought a £40K machine on finance and wondering about payments, hopefully the government will stop all loan payments if we go into lockdown.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Mar 22 2020, 11:05 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Mar 22 2020, 09:35 PM) *
It's not like me but today I have been so full of anxiety I haven't been able to pick up my guitar. I sent a worker home last week with a sore throat, I know that's not one of the main symptoms but after speaking to a friend (I've not had contact with her) who is actually in isolation with the virus, hers started with a sore throat that she ignored. She's feeling better now but I'm really anxious, my stomach feels like a washing machine, I know most people will get over it and I shouldn't really be so worried but I can't get the feeling of impending doom out of my head.

Stay safe people.


I think you the did right thing, being precautious about your worker's condition.

I also have a very bad feeling about all of this. But usually when we are confronted with something unknown and frightening we have a tendency to get much more scared than what is motivated. I think we all should do everything within our power to fight the virus - while also realising that at some point this will be over. By then I also hope we will have reached important new insights to take better care of ourselves and the planet in the future.

Posted by: Mertay Mar 22 2020, 11:11 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Mar 22 2020, 10:00 PM) *
Thanks but I'm still having to work, we've just bought a £40 come on finance and wondering about payments, going the government will stop all loan payments if we go into lockdown.


My guess is worst case they'll hype the inflation which in return (in time) will make it even easier for payments, this was done by England after WW2 to re-build every building destroyed.

Working is ok and continue if you can, but be super careful not to get sick. The cleaning I'm doing when I have to go buy stuff is simply insane these days but must be done.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 23 2020, 02:44 AM

I saw some footage of this on the news. In England and in California here in the states, public parks are packed with bored kids and frustrated parents. For some reason it doesn't seem to be as much in the rest of the country here for some reason. Not sure why.

This morning 5 states were shut down here. By end of day it nearly doubled to 8 states. As of today the DMV (department of motor vehicles) is closed here in Georgia. Of all the things to close?

Folks are hoarding everything from toilet paper to guns. The entire thing is taking on a bit of a mad max vibe to be honest. I expect to see folks with guns guarding huge stashes of Toilet Paper and a black market being started for Charmin which is going to be more valuable than gold per ounce. The price gouging has already started online and ebay was the worst for a short time but now they forbid the sale of any corona related "supplies" on ebay as a matter of policy. I don't know if it will do much good. I never thought I'd see the day when black market toilet paper was a thing smile.gif

https://reason.com/2020/03/06/to-avoid-charges-of-price-gouging-ebay-bans-sale-of-coronavirus-supplies/

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Mar 21 2020, 03:59 PM) *
What's crazy, the schools are shut and when you drive passed local parks, there are huge gatherings of kids, why aren't the parents keeping them in? FFS


Posted by: Mertay Mar 23 2020, 07:03 AM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Mar 23 2020, 01:44 AM) *
I never thought I'd see the day when black market toilet paper was a thing smile.gif


We have some food shortages here too but not as bad as USA yet. No one here bought toilet paper though, I think this reflex in USA comes from the coldwar years.

Posted by: Monica Gheorghevici Mar 23 2020, 11:12 AM

In Romania everything is closed, only the pharmacies, supermarkets, hypermarkets and small shops food are open. Most of companies are closed. The lucky people work remotely, others were were put into technical unemployment but unfortunately we also have a lot of people which remained without job.

Dan (my husband) work from home in this period and we love this thing very much. We have much more time for us and this is awesome. We spend time practicing (Dan beside drums, he started one year ago to play at bass), we watch movies, cook together and also we make some championships of Heroes 3 (my favorite game). smile.gif

Also starting from today we have a bunch of restrictions and we can't go outside without a solid reason and a paper from the authorities.
Unfortunately I need to go outside everyday because my mom needs help. She has cancer and also make dialysis 3 days/week. The center where she make dialysis send a driver to take her but I need to help my mom get dressed and take her to the car because she can't do this alone. The luck is that we moved her near us (when her health began to deteriorate) and from my home at her house, I make only 3 minutes.

I'm stressed because my mom it's very sick and her immune system it's completely down and this thing put her in the higher risk category. It's only been two months since we had to accept (and tell her the true) the fact that she only has a few more months to live and we can not do nothing to change this. But, even if the entire situation it hurts me and really poison me on the inside, for my mom and the rest of people which are around me I'm always happy and make jokes. I will always be the one who see the full part of the glass in any bad situation.
I keep my mom positive and because she writes poems and her biggest wish was to publish a book, I succeeded in one month to make this possible. I wrote hours/day and I convinced the publisher and the typography that I need this book to be done in maximum one month. Last week the book (200 pieces) was ready and my mom more than happy. smile.gif
Now due to restrictions from my country, we was forced to postpone the public launch. We hope nothing bad to happen with my mom and make all the things how we planned.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Mar 23 2020, 11:55 AM

Thanks for sharing the story about your mom Monica - I can sense how your strength spills over to your mom in the form of positive energy. How you published that book for her is just amazing ❤️

Stay strong - we will get through this together!


Posted by: Phil66 Mar 23 2020, 08:48 PM

QUOTE (Mertay @ Mar 22 2020, 10:11 PM) *
My guess is worst case they'll hype the inflation which in return (in time) will make it even easier for payments, this was done by England after WW2 to re-build every building destroyed.

Working is ok and continue if you can, but be super careful not to get sick. The cleaning I'm doing when I have to go buy stuff is simply insane these days but must be done.


I feel much better today, the old black dog is nearly gone. I think you may need to read https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=60798&view=findpost&p=775877 again though as it was some bad typos on my tablet that I didn't spot wink.gif

Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 24 2020, 12:06 AM

Very sorry to hear about your Mom Monica. sad.gif I lost my own mother to cancer and I hate that this his happening to you. I'm glad you are able to help her and that you are finding some positives during all this with your husband. Thanks for sharing your story with us. We are all pulling for you!

Todd

QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Mar 23 2020, 06:12 AM) *
In Romania everything is closed, only the pharmacies, supermarkets, hypermarkets and small shops food are open. Most of companies are closed. The lucky people work remotely, others were were put into technical unemployment but unfortunately we also have a lot of people which remained without job.

Dan (my husband) work from home in this period and we love this thing very much. We have much more time for us and this is awesome. We spend time practicing (Dan beside drums, he started one year ago to play at bass), we watch movies, cook


Posted by: Phil66 Mar 24 2020, 08:21 AM

Sorry I missed your post Monica, we have spoken about your mom recently, I send you my best wishes in this particularly hard time.


Posted by: Monica Gheorghevici Mar 24 2020, 10:28 AM

Kris, Todd and Phil - Thank you so much for your kind words and support. It means a lot to me. smile.gif


BTW, sorry if some of the things from my post was a little off topic. It wasn't my intention. I just wanted to share with you which are the restrictions from my country because of the corona virus, how I spend my time in "isolation", how I always try to keep and spread a positive thinking (but being aware of the real situation) and why my most concern is around the fact that my mom it's from the most vulnerably category. smile.gif



Overall I don't have a good feeling about what will come because of this virus. In the last 24 hours things really started to looks bad in my country and last evening the authorities taken some new measures which exceed my limit of acceptability.
They started to discharge the patients from all the hospitals (including private hospitals) and from the palliative centers. They prepare everything just for the people with corona virus. Each appointment for analyses, medical examinations were canceled on both free state and private. My mom appointment for the change of urinary stent (she has ileostomy) was also canceled and the doctor said that if we have luck, we can change this somewhere in May.

Last saturday, a bunch of stupid people were at walk in park, not respecting the rules about the social distance. Now the authorities send at home all the people which are in palliative centers and depend on pain killers to make room for the "smart" people which were outside, spreading the virus. How the hell is this fair?

My luck is that I have medicines for my mom for another 2 months. Also, our attitude of treating my mom like a normal person (not like a person which will die) and her always positive attitude, made doctors to love her very much and this is an advantage in this period when the doctors are not available. But if the things will change and my mom's pain will become stronger, I need the medicines which can be taken only from the palliative center.
But....even if I'm nervous of whats going on right now, I still thinking in a positive way. wink.gif

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Mar 24 2020, 03:58 PM

QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Mar 24 2020, 10:28 AM) *
Last saturday, a bunch of stupid people were at walk in park, not respecting the rules about the social distance. Now the authorities send at home all the people which are in palliative centers and depend on pain killers to make room for the "smart" people which were outside, spreading the virus. How the hell is this fair?


Yes this is a major problem right now. This is causing governments all over the world enforce very strict laws.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 24 2020, 08:25 PM

The stupid people not following local laws are causing problems for everyone around them. I'm very sorry this has hit your family sad.gif This thing is still expanding and the numbers globally are going up every single day. I keep waiting for some sort of statement that we have reached a peak and are heading back down but sadly it looks like we have quite a ways to go before that happens. Meanwhile, people like your Mom and millions of others are having trouble getting basic medical treatment. It's entirely unfair and wrong.

Half of everyone that has this virus, got it from someone who didn't know they have it according to the top health pro we have here. So people without symptoms are walking around spreading it. Sadly we don't have a good handle on testing here as of yet so we really have no idea how many people are actually sick. Without "Universal Testing" we will never really know what our actual numbers of sick people are. South Korea is testing 10,000 per day in FREE drive thru test facilities and they email the results. Meanwhile, people in my country are still having trouble getting a test at all, assuming one is even available once it is prescribed by a doctor.

Our surgeon general says it's going to get much worse here in the next coming days. I already thought it was pretty bad, but evidently it's gonna get much worse here before it gets better.

In Spain they are having to use an ICE RINK as a temporary morgue as their regular facilities are over run. They have declared a curfew and are using police drones to enforce it. They have had the country wide lockdown extended by 3 weeks. Also, soldiers have found entire retirement homes abandoned with patients left alone in their beds.


quote name='Monica Gheorghevici' date='Mar 24 2020, 05:28 AM' post='775926']
Kris, Todd and Phil - Thank you so much for your kind words and support. It means a lot to me. smile.gif


BTW, sorry if some of the things from my post was a little off topic. It wasn't my intention. I just wanted to share with you which are the restrictions from my country because of the corona virus, how I spend my time in "isolation", how I always try to keep and spread a positive thinking (but being aware of the real situation) and why my most concern is around the fact that my mom it's from the most vulnerably category. smile.gif
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Posted by: Mertay Mar 24 2020, 09:10 PM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Mar 24 2020, 07:25 PM) *
In Spain they are having to use an ICE RINK as a temporary morgue as their regular facilities are over run.


Last time we had to use the ice rinks was 20 years ago, an earthquake killed 50.000 people almost overnight. This shows how dire the situation is there sad.gif

Posted by: jstcrsn Mar 24 2020, 09:30 PM

they just shut all non essential businesses in my county ,down for 30 days,but


This is a time for hope .Faith in mankind .The glass is hale full .
None of these people ever take ingenuity into the picture
There are , the best minds , the best doctors , and yes the best pharmaceutical companies working on this
Take heart , take courage , relax and don't make matters worse ..

Don't borrow Trouble from tomorrow for today..No One is promised tomorrow

Posted by: klasaine Mar 25 2020, 03:04 AM

QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Mar 24 2020, 01:30 PM) *
Don't borrow Trouble from tomorrow for today..No One is promised tomorrow


Good one.
I also like ... "Don't pay interest on a debt you may not owe".

Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 25 2020, 07:51 AM

On a positive note, we are starting clinical/experimental trials on a wide variety of drugs and the entire world is focused on this one problem. We will survive this. I have no doubt. We will recover and our economy will recover. So take heart and know that the world is not ending. We will weather this storm as we have weathered every other storm so far. We just have to stay strong and look forward to the end of this.



I'm all for hope personally. I think it's the one thing we have left. I'm very hopeful that this is over as soon as possible. Best case it could just go way and go away very soon smile.gif Until then, we just have to keep going. It will probably get worse before it gets better from the look of things.

In Britain, Doctors are raising the red flag. The entire country is pretty much shut down and health experts are saying get ready for a huge increase in cases. Most disturbing is a big increase in patients in their 20s.




In Italy, the morgues in the north are full and so are the grave yards. People are having to drive coffins as far as needed to find a place to put them in the ground. They are rushing to build more hospitals etc.


Posted by: Darius Wave Mar 25 2020, 12:40 PM

QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Mar 23 2020, 10:12 AM) *
Also starting from today we have a bunch of restrictions and we can't go outside without a solid reason and a paper from the authorities.



That's what started today in Poland. Since now we had rather suggestions than restrictions. Now we also had to have a solid reason to go outside and we will be verified by police and maybe military ..who knows. My wife got a paper confirming she goes to work.

Posted by: Phil66 Mar 25 2020, 12:46 PM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Mar 25 2020, 06:51 AM) *
Most disturbing is a big increase in patients in their 20s.


They were the ones taking the least notice of guidelines.

The other astounding thing is that some tourist areas in the UK had their highest footfall EVER recorded on Sunday, more than any public holiday. absolutely crazy. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

I had a fit of coughing in the night and it scared the pants off me, I think it was just a bit of fluff went don't my windpipe, I'm okay now.

There is a lot of confusion here about work, even the government are contradicting themselves. All of my lads are worried about their jobs.

There is a big difference between, "You can go to work if absolutely necessary AND you can't work from home", and "You can go to work if absolutely necessary OR can't work from home". Matt Hancock said "Those who can't work from home can go to work and should, to keep the country ticking over" and immediately said something about key workers which could and could not have been associated.

In the lists of who is to close and who is to stay open, I haven't found anything about factories. we have been trying very hard, sanitizer everywhere, keeping distance, washing hands etc etc. When you make a product that is bespoke to each customer's needs then it is very very worrying, if that customer doesn't survive, they are of no use to anyone else unless someone buys his company and/or engine stock.

Hard and worrying times for business owners.


Posted by: Darius Wave Mar 25 2020, 04:13 PM

Not only for business owners. Some people fortunately understand that if company will fall, their job will fall as well. I think we are all in financial relations so this pandemia affects each one...maybe besides the ones that get retirement payment but...they're the highest risk group so they have something worse to worry about...

Posted by: fkalich Mar 25 2020, 04:19 PM

I am working on my guitar with more of a focus. As this is a guitar site, I just thought I would throw that in.

I have a sister with advanced Kidney disease, I take care of her needs so she can stay in isolation, as it would be a death sentence for her. I was prepared for a pandemic, know how to stay safe in all probability, and have circumstances that allow that.

I have to avoid infection not just for myself, but for my sister's welfare, and of course my beloved 6 dogs, my cat, my two guinea pigs, and even my fish. They need me there to take care of them.

On a side note, there needs to be international pressure to force all countries to stop the marketing and consumption of bats, and all wild animals. By economic sanctions or whatever it takes to force their hands. The next pandemic one could be worse than this one,

Posted by: AK Rich Mar 25 2020, 07:40 PM

QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Mar 23 2020, 02:12 AM) *


Your story is heartbreaking, Monica. I admire your courage, strength and ability to maintain a positive attitude in this time of crisis. Dealing with the possibility of losing a loved one is never easy and even when you have the chance to prepare for it, it doesn't really make it easier. You will be in our thoughts and prayers as are many others. We pray that we can get through this and come out stronger and better people on the other side.

QUOTE (fkalich @ Mar 25 2020, 07:19 AM) *


You are a good brother, Fkalich. We pray for you as well that you, and all of us can get through this thing with the least amount of loss possible.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 26 2020, 02:18 AM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Mar 25 2020, 07:46 AM) *
They were the ones taking the least notice of guidelines.

Hard and worrying times for business owners.


IT's not like you run a brew pup with lots of random foot traffic. It's a small group of the same folks so not a huge public health risk it seems. If law men show up with yellow tape then it's done but til then probably your call I'm guessing? If you can mask/glove everyone it would be one way to try to keep em all a bit safer, assuming you can even get masks/gloves now one can't even find toilet paper smile.gif


QUOTE (fkalich @ Mar 25 2020, 11:19 AM) *
I am working on my guitar with more of a focus. As this is a guitar site, I just thought I would throw that in.

I have a sister with advanced Kidney disease, I take care of her needs so she can stay in isolation, as it would be a death


I'm the legal guardian of my sister whom I have to tend as she suffers from mental illness and has been declared disabled from it. So I've been very worried about getting sick as I don't think she could tend herself very long. Now that both my parents have passed and my brother lives in Florida, I don't have any backup help. Part of the reason we are moving to florida smile.gif At least trying to move. With everything closing, it's going to be very tricky to do a move at the end of this month.

They have already closed the DMV here so I can't renew my license which I didn't notice had expired. oops. Also closed the social security offices so we can't go in and change her address. We can't do it online (not allowed for some reason) so we have to try the phone which has not worked yet. All state services are shutting down one by one. It's starting to get a bit grim.

Anyone else think their grocery store looks like an episode of the walking dead? Empty shelves and zombies walking around?


Posted by: Monica Gheorghevici Mar 26 2020, 09:04 AM

QUOTE (fkalich @ Mar 25 2020, 03:19 PM) *
I have a sister with advanced Kidney disease, I take care of her needs so she can stay in isolation, as it would be a death sentence for her. I was prepared for a pandemic, know how to stay safe in all probability, and have circumstances that allow that.

I have to avoid infection not just for myself, but for my sister's welfare, and of course my beloved 6 dogs, my cat, my two guinea pigs, and even my fish. They need me there to take care of them.

It's awesome that you take care of her. Your sister it's very lucky to have a brother like you!


QUOTE (AK Rich @ Mar 23 2020, 02:12 AM) *
Your story is heartbreaking, Monica. I admire your courage, strength and ability to maintain a positive attitude in this time of crisis. Dealing with the possibility of losing a loved one is never easy and even when you have the chance to prepare for it, it doesn't really make it easier. You will be in our thoughts and prayers as are many others. We pray that we can get through this and come out stronger and better people on the other side.

You have right, no matter how much time we have it's never enough to prepare yourself to lose a loved one. I'm angry because I can't do nothing to help my mom and change the things. But...in the same time I'm very grateful for the time that we have left because even if this time the cancer won the fight, how we choose to spend this end is something that depend only on us. Also the fact that I have the chance to accomplish some of her wishes it's important for me.
Keeping a positive attitude and making my mom to have days when she really forget that has cancer, I think it make us winners. The cancer ugliness can't destroy the beauty within us.

Rich, thank you so much for your kind words and take care of you. smile.gif You are also in my thoughts and prayers from the moment when I knew about your health issues.

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Mar 26 2020, 01:18 AM) *
Anyone else think their grocery store looks like an episode of the walking dead? Empty shelves and zombies walking around?

I have this feeling everyday. I even expect to see Daryl. biggrin.gif
If you want to see a comedy or an action movie, you go to Netflix, if you want to see a horror movie, go to grocery store. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Mar 26 2020, 10:27 AM

QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Mar 25 2020, 03:13 PM) *
Not only for business owners. Some people fortunately understand that if company will fall, their job will fall as well. I think we are all in financial relations so this pandemia affects each one...maybe besides the ones that get retirement payment but...they're the highest risk group so they have something worse to worry about...


I wasn't meaning to sound selfish about being a "business owner". I am concerned for every one of my workers as well as myself, that was what I meant, business owners have a lot of burden to retain staff. They technically only qualify for statutory sick pay but for the time being, because we value them, we are paying them in full. Hopefully we can qualify for government help. We will be arranging a huge loan to carry us over too.

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Mar 26 2020, 01:18 AM) *
IT's not like you run a brew pup with lots of random foot traffic. It's a small group of the same folks so not a huge public health risk it seems.


The thing is done of my lads have wives that work in supermarkets etc. They have to go, they could pass it on to their husband he could bring it in and we could all go down with it. There are a lot of shared computer stations in the workshop, we are very very tight for space so the distancing thing is hard. I'm just trying to protect my workforce as much as possible. I'm gonna need them when this is over. Also nearly all of our customers are closed so we can't dispatch and invoice them anyway.

Posted by: fkalich Mar 26 2020, 10:23 PM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Mar 25 2020, 08:18 PM) *
Anyone else think their grocery store looks like an episode of the walking dead? Empty shelves and zombies walking around?


I loaded supplies early (including super pasteurized milk) , so my first trip in this environment was Monday. I was shell shocked, it overwhelmed me. But then I thought about the employee who helped me at the self checkout, looked to be at least 50, and how she has to expose herself all day long, to what customers are afraid of for a half hour once a week. So I thanked her, trying to convey my understanding and appreciation.

I'm no angel, but I have my better moments.



Posted by: jstcrsn Mar 27 2020, 02:02 AM

I think we got about 1 week till we see the peak and cases will start dropping and with the news of hydroxychloroquine and it's effectiveness,I believe the end is in sight

I have been working either from home and remodeling a rental that I have a contract to sell April 10th..I live in middle America were more people are down to earth ,level headed folks .Toilet paper ran off the shelves in some places but were replaced so quick people realized what they were doing and everything is still at the store with limits on buying to prevent shortages .Life really hasn't changed

Posted by: klasaine Mar 27 2020, 02:47 AM

We've been at this 'lockdown' for a solid two weeks now. Folks are less panicked and the markets have plenty of food. Paper products - not so much, though I was able to find TP a couple of days ago.
It is hard to find flour and I know that 90% of those hoarding it have never baked anything in their life. And I can guarantee you they have absolutely no idea how to store it. Not that they're gonna need it but when they go to make that pizza in 3 months, they're going to open it up and find mouse turds, weevils and silver fish.

My technique is to go to the Armenian markets in the morning. Doesn't have to be early. Generally speaking, the only part of LA's population that shops there are Armenians, Greeks and Russians. The white folks don't go and either do Asians, Hispanics or African Americans. There's also an Italian bakery that didn't get ravaged and has meat and frozen lasagna, plenty of pasta and coffee and the like.
All the restaurants here are open for take out and delivery and many of them are also now selling bulk stuff like bread, flour, milk, sugar, eggs, etc.

Once people realized that the stores were still getting deliveries, they started to chill out.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 27 2020, 06:04 AM

I hope your right smile.gif All the health folks seem to be saying that we won't peak for another couple of weeks, which would be awful, so I do hope they are all wrong. Time alone will tell. We are still seeing the number of infected/dead spike straight up every day so it doesn't look good in terms of the numbers. It actually looks quite bad. Still I hope to goodness it all smooths out in a week or so. That would be great!

At the moment the UNITED STATES IS THE NEW EPICENTER of Covid. Not what I was hoping to hear. sad.gif



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The only place I've found toilet paper in Georgia is at Quick Mart where it's five bux for four pack which is almost double what it should be. In local groceries/walmart/target, all the TP/Sanitizer aisles are just empty. It's like somebody backed up a truck and just took all of it. It's unsettling. It's also stupid. People are hoarding for no good reason.

This guy goes to several places just like I did today. I must have beaten him to the punch at quick trick smile.gif


QUOTE (klasaine @ Mar 26 2020, 09:47 PM) *
We've been at this 'lockdown' for a solid two weeks now. Folks are less panicked and the markets have plenty of

Once people realized that the stores were still getting deliveries, they started to chill out.


Posted by: jstcrsn Mar 27 2020, 12:50 PM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Mar 27 2020, 06:04 AM) *
The only place I've found toilet paper in Georgia is at Quick Mart where it's five bux for four pack which is almost double what it should be. In local groceries/walmart/target, all the TP/Sanitizer aisles are just empty. It's like somebody backed up a truck and just took all of it. It's unsettling. It's also stupid. People are hoarding for no good reason.

This guy goes to several places just like I did today. I must have beaten him to the punch at quick trick smile.gif

you know you can find squirt bottles like this at most hardware stores
https://www.amazon.com/CVNDKN-Plastic-Safety-Bottle-Squeeze/dp/B081CLWBCJ/ref=lp_393361011_1_6?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1585309709&sr=1-6

Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 27 2020, 08:46 PM

To replace toilet paper? That's one way smile.gif Sort of portable bidet?

QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Mar 27 2020, 07:50 AM) *
you know you can find squirt bottles like this at most hardware stores
https://www.amazon.com/CVNDKN-Plastic-Safety-Bottle-Squeeze/dp/B081CLWBCJ/ref=lp_393361011_1_6?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1585309709&sr=1-6


Posted by: Phil66 Mar 27 2020, 11:34 PM

Not wanting to make light of the situation but the backs of my hands are fucking sore from paranoid washing. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 29 2020, 01:22 AM

I hate to say it, but my skin is starting to peel off my hands form the washing/sanitizer/etc. I decided to turn off all news for 24 hours as it was making it hard for me to even get to sleep. It's just unsettling at this point to watch 24 hour coverage of all this. I'm going to cut back to one hour of news a day.

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Mar 27 2020, 06:34 PM) *
Not wanting to make light of the situation but the backs of my hands are fucking sore from paranoid washing. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif


Posted by: Darius Wave Mar 30 2020, 12:57 PM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Mar 22 2020, 08:29 PM) *
Sweden seems to be the only country in Europe that hasn't closed schools yet, but we have prepared for it.

Since I usually work from home this doesn't change that much for me, but my wife has started working from home as well. Also we have kept our kids home for almost two weeks since the recommendation is for us to avoid school if there is even the lightest hint of cold.

We also try to help our parents with grocery shopping. But it's not always easy since they are reluctant to change their habits...



What is wrong with old people? Same on my side. We try to explain how it all works. we try to make them realize it's all mostly for their good, because THEY are in the highest risk group....

Posted by: Jeff S Mar 30 2020, 02:36 PM

I share this information with the idea that it could possibly help someone in some way.

My cousin Joey died of Covid yesterday in Nashville, at the age of 61. I had been getting daily calls about his condition, but I'm still a little shell shocked by the outcome. I hate the fact that, except for the hospital staff, he died alone - no family members were allowed in the hopital. Rollingstone released a nice tribute:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/joe-diffie-country-singer-dead-obituary-974556/


Joey and I grew up in a little town in Oklahoma. We played sports together, played in a cover band (that part worked out OK for him), acted stupid together, and I was the best man in his first wedding. He would laugh if he heard me say that. When he did gigs in the Dallas metroplex, my wife and I would drive over and spend a couple of hours on the bus with him before the show. Good guy.

Take good care of yourself and your family, if possible.

Jeff

Posted by: Phil66 Mar 30 2020, 02:59 PM

QUOTE (Jeff S @ Mar 30 2020, 01:36 PM) *
I share this information with the idea that it could possibly help someone in some way.

My cousin Joey died of Covid yesterday in Nashville, at the age of 61. I had been getting daily calls about his condition, but I'm still a little shell shocked by the outcome. I hate the fact that, except for the hospital staff, he died alone - no family members were allowed in the hopital. Rollingstone released a nice tribute:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/joe-diffie-country-singer-dead-obituary-974556/


Joey and I grew up in a little town in Oklahoma. We played sports together, played in a cover band (that part worked out OK for him), acted stupid together, and I was the best man in his first wedding. He would laugh if he heard me say that. When he did gigs in the Dallas metroplex, my wife and I would drive over and spend a couple of hours on the bus with him before the show. Good guy.

Take good care of yourself and your family, if possible.

Jeff


So sorry to hear this Jeff. Our thoughts are with you. Stay safe and keep others safe.



Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 31 2020, 05:10 AM

I grieve for your loss. I saw the news that he had passed. This virus doesn't have any restrictions on who it takes from us it seems. He touched a lot of people with the gift of music and I hope I can say the same about my life from the other side. Music is beyond a career, it's a calling. Many are called, few are chosen. He was clearly one of the chosen. Talented, creative, clever. I'm very sorry this virus has struck so close to home.

Todd


QUOTE (Jeff S @ Mar 30 2020, 09:36 AM) *
I share this information with the idea that it could possibly help someone in some way.



Take good care of yourself and your family, if possible.

Jeff


Posted by: Fran Mar 31 2020, 04:48 PM

Sorry to hear that Jeff sad.gif





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