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Posted by: Todd Simpson Apr 1 2016, 12:48 AM

The "Rise of the Right" In Europe is starting to really get worrying. Here is a vid from an american company that makes news/docs called vice. ANYONE FROM POLAND? Is it really like this?

Posted by: Darius Wave Apr 1 2016, 04:54 PM

As usuall this case has two sides. It's actually a one huge event that has happened, but seems like media works to make it look like it's all the time like that...and everywhere in Poland. Actually at the moment it's quite peacefull. Poland is a poor country. It's hard to blame people for having complains on the Gouverment not having money for natives and yet making agreements on giving social support for external people. Also a lot of Poles work in Germany. We have informations of what is happening there from teh very first hand....we don't need to trust media. From what we know it's hard to be calm and positive on having thesame situation here, in Poland.

From the other hand East Europe is a specific place. Have you heard of people having problems with immigrants in Russia? I haven't. somehow I'm sure that it won't be possible to "push the string" as much as in western countires. Some groups in our society would not wait for a gouverment intervention....we're different at this point. It's not a bout rasism or anything media is trying to prove to whole world. It's about being able to feel safe at your own house.

But as I said....it's typical..it looks worse than it is....

Posted by: fzalfa Apr 1 2016, 05:20 PM

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It's hard to blame people for having complains on the Gouverment not having money for natives and yet making agreements on giving social support for external people

it's the european government willing !!!

your country is right to do not accept more external people !!!! this was the desire of germany and of all the liberalist business people, to make come foreign people in misery to make them work for cheap in europe, instead of us !!

this is not a nationalist talking, but a logical conclusion !

Laurent

Posted by: wrk Apr 1 2016, 06:16 PM

QUOTE (fzalfa @ Apr 1 2016, 05:20 PM)

... this is not a nationalist talking, but a logical conclusion !

… good one Laurent

Posted by: Todd Simpson Apr 1 2016, 11:12 PM

They make it look like the return of LENIN but I'm guessing it's not that bad? PRobably just hyped up to get more clicks.

QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Apr 1 2016, 10:54 AM)

As usuall this case has two sides. It's actually a one huge event that has happened, but seems like media works to make it look like it's all the time like that...and everywhere in Poland. Actually at the moment it's quite peacefull. Poland is a poor country. It's hard to blame people for having complains on the Gouverment not having money for natives and yet making agreements on giving social support for external people. Also a lot of Poles work in Germany. We have informations of what is happening there from teh very first hand....we don't need to trust media. From what we know it's hard to be calm and positive on having thesame situation here, in Poland.

From the other hand East Europe is a specific place. Have you heard of people having problems with immigrants in Russia? I haven't. somehow I'm sure that it won't be possible to "push the string" as much as in western countires. Some groups in our society would not wait for a gouverment intervention....we're different at this point. It's not a bout rasism or anything media is trying to prove to whole world. It's about being able to feel safe at your own house.

But as I said....it's typical..it looks worse than it is....

Posted by: Darius Wave Apr 2 2016, 11:24 AM

Yep...it's done to make it look like we are all nationalist and when something goes bad once they enter those people to Poland, it would be easy to have an excuse that "you've seen what happened in Poland" You could expect the behavior and we have to do anything to stop it because...Polish are bad people, homofobic(?) etc.....real bulshit. We do liver outside of Poland as well, many of us are the immigrants themselfs....but we go to work, we live in a similar cuture, we do not "suck out the social". Seeing what happens in Germany...I think I would not like to be afraid everyday to let my wife go alone outside home....to be everyday worried od what could happen.

To be clear - I'm not against. Poland is especially a country that understands the problems of imigration due to the wars we've been through. I'm highly worried about the people who leave their country because of true reasons and a need of living safe lives with their families. But I also think that the policy of people making trouble (street riots etc) is totally wrong. They should be thrown out immediately, without any court process, investigations etc. Simply..."do not accept our living terms...we will "help" you to leave".

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