Whammy Leaning Too Much Forward, Need help adjusting the whammy bar
Raiz
Apr 21 2010, 05:17 PM
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Hello fellow guitarists!

I have a Squier Fat Strat



And I have long had a problem with my whammy leaning too much forward, touching the volume knobs and also the strings mad.gif

I tried to keep the whammy at place while tuning the guitar but it just leaned forward again getting out of tune, then when I tune the strings again i have to tune them 3-4 times to get it right because as I tune one string, another one goes out of tune etc.. And of course, the whammy is leaning way too much forward when it's in tune again sad.gif


I checked out this topic(even tho i dont have a floyd rose), but it didn't help much.

Anyone who can help me solve this problem?
Oh, by the way if you need picture i can upload as soon as i find the cable to my camera ohmy.gif

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Raiz!

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Apr 21 2010, 05:23 PM
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Tighten the springs in the back of your guitar to fore the tremolo back!

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Sounds wierd if's soo much leaned it touches the knob and strings blink.gif

Are there any springs at all if you look behind the back plate?? At usual there sits 3 springs between the block and body.


Btw - The linked topic doesn't lead anywhere

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Apr 21 2010, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Apr 21 2010, 05:25 PM) *
Sounds wierd if's soo much leaned it touches the knob and strings blink.gif

Are there any springs at all if you look behind the back plate?? At usual there sits 3 springs between the block and body.


Btw - The linked topic doesn't lead anywhere


I can see 2 springs behind the back plate.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...?showtopic=7476
this is the topic (fixed now)



QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Apr 21 2010, 05:23 PM) *
Tighten the springs in the back of your guitar to fore the tremolo back!



I don't know how to do that sad.gif

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    QUOTE (Raiz @ Apr 21 2010, 05:17 PM) *
    Hello fellow guitarists!

    I have a Squier Fat Strat



    And I have long had a problem with my whammy leaning too much forward, touching the volume knobs and also the strings mad.gif

    I tried to keep the whammy at place while tuning the guitar but it just leaned forward again getting out of tune, then when I tune the strings again i have to tune them 3-4 times to get it right because as I tune one string, another one goes out of tune etc.. And of course, the whammy is leaning way too much forward when it's in tune again sad.gif


    I checked out this topic(even tho i dont have a floyd rose), but it didn't help much.

    Anyone who can help me solve this problem?
    Oh, by the way if you need picture i can upload as soon as i find the cable to my camera ohmy.gif

    Cheers,
    Raiz!

    if this is one of fenders floating tremolos - let me know
    if not , what they said


    QUOTE (Raiz @ Apr 21 2010, 05:29 PM) *
    I can see 2 springs behind the back plate.

    https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...?showtopic=7476
    this is the topic (fixed now)


    usually there are three
    at the base of where the springs attache to the guitar there should be two phillips screws that you can tighten as well



    I don't know how to do that sad.gif

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    Raiz
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    QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Apr 21 2010, 05:29 PM) *

      if this is one of fenders floating tremolos - let me know
      if not , what they said



      Yes, it's a floating tremolo. Like this one

      Can't find the proper tool right now but when i do i'll try this

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      QUOTE (Raiz @ Apr 21 2010, 05:32 PM) *
      Yes, it's a floating tremolo. Like this one

      just to be sure --you can pull your notes up or does the body of the guitar stop it

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      Raiz
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      QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Apr 21 2010, 05:42 PM) *
      just to be sure --you can pull your notes up


      If you mean pull notes up (higher notes) with the whammy , yes tongue.gif
      But At the moment i cant pull them down! :S

      Usually both ways.

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      QUOTE (Raiz @ Apr 21 2010, 05:44 PM) *
      If you mean pull notes up (higher notes) with the whammy , yes tongue.gif
      But At the moment i cant pull them down! :S

      Usually both ways.


      there should probably be three spings
      when you add a spring-make them equally spaced
      such as -- if there are five spaces one in the middle and one on the furthest outside pegs
      when you tune - you will have to reset the spring plate -retune -reset the plate afew times maybe adjusting the height of the tremolo tell it is just right

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      Raiz
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      QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Apr 21 2010, 05:23 PM) *
      Tighten the springs in the back of your guitar to fore the tremolo back!


      Thanks, I figured how to do this and it worked smile.gif

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      nice guitar dude!

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      stratman79
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      I'd say rather than tightening it you really want to put a 3rd spring in. tighten up the screws for a short term fix but generally I reckon you want 3 . (I have 4 or 5 in mine!!)

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      QUOTE (stratman79 @ Apr 21 2010, 10:20 PM) *
      I'd say rather than tightening it you really want to put a 3rd spring in. tighten up the screws for a short term fix but generally I reckon you want 3 . (I have 4 or 5 in mine!!)


      Added a 3rd spring (took one out from my first crap 50$ guitar) It was about same length but seemed tighter .
      ... i just got to go buy a new E string tomorrow cause it snapped during the process! sad.gif

      Thanks for answering my question guys!

      QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Apr 21 2010, 10:17 PM) *
      nice guitar dude!


      thanks! biggrin.gif I love it!

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      QUOTE (Raiz @ Apr 21 2010, 11:11 PM) *
      Added a 3rd spring (took one out from my first crap 50$ guitar) It was about same length but seemed tighter .
      ... i just got to go buy a new E string tomorrow cause it snapped during the process! sad.gif

      Thanks for answering my question guys!



      thanks! biggrin.gif I love it!

      before you put on the spring, loosen the plate

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      I think you should take it to a luthier. I think that because of this tremolo problem, the guitar needs a calibration too. So, I think it might be better to take it to someone who knows better to do the job for you.

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      Nice guitar! smile.gif

      If you haven't solved the problem yet, or feeling insecure about the whole topic, check this post out:

      https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...st&p=473250

      if you have any more questions, let us know smile.gif

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      I had this problem when i put a higher gauge string on, lowered the gauge and its fine now. When i put the extra spring in the strings just snapped sad.gif

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      Thicker strings makes more tension than thinner ones. That's why this happens to you.

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