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post Apr 18 2018, 09:50 PM
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Original lesson: Neoclassical Solo For Beginners by Emir Hot

hello I have spend some hours around, a fight with myself about vibrato...


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post Apr 19 2018, 03:53 PM
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Cool Laurent, great to see you here on the REC board!

The main thing that brings my impression of your playing down, is actually your recording technique. Almost all videos I have heard from you have a phase issue. A wild guess is that you are summing a stereo signal that has reverb or delay on it - giving you phase problems. If so, the solution is to keep the stereo signal or record in mono directly.

Also - I can barely hear the backing track. Maybe you are recording with a mic directly from your monitors? If so, the position of the mic could be the cause of the phase issues.

Other than that - you are right in working on your vibrato. It has def got better, but it's still very "finger based". This gives you a narrow Kirk Hammet kind of vibrato sound - and slightly irregular vibrato.

This is a level 3 lesson though, and I won't be expecting you to nail Emir's vibrato. Over all I think you are on a good path with amazing progress behind you (and hopefully ahead of you as well). You get a 6 from me.

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post Apr 19 2018, 04:33 PM
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Hi mate!

This lesson is a great exercise for you. I think that you are doing a good job here, but there is more work to do in order to make those vibratos more consistent.

At this point your vibrato is ok, but too soft, while the lesson and style requires a wider and more agressive type of vibrato. Your vibrato is well controlled, and the movement starts from your left hand wrist as it's required, but the motion must be wider. Try to exaggerate it, even if you feel that you lose control at first. The idea is that you gain the strengh to play more "malmsteenish" or "Wyldish" type of vibrato here.

Besides this, there are some moments where your playing is not clean enough, so take your time to adjust those parts in which you notice that unwanted noises or double strings are sounding. Use your right hand palm and other fingers to mute the strings that are not being played.

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post Apr 20 2018, 02:00 AM
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Todd here!! We had emailed back and forth about your guitar tone and I think it's part of what kris is responding to about your recording. It's got too much distortion on it and it starts to compress the signal and create some phase issues in the final mix. Which patch are you using on this btw? Try the, adding the tube screamer with dist on zero and volume turned up to 8 tone in the middle and turn down gain on the amp block, trick. It makes the guitar much more articulate. Also try the bogner blue amp head and avoid the Mesa Boogie and other really high gain heads for rec stuff. They end up crushing the signal making it harder to hear what you are doing. But this is all 11 rack technical bits, nothing about your playing.

On to your playing!! Glad you submitted to the rec as it allows you to get feedback from 3 different folks. Like we talked about before when I first saw your old version of this, your vibrato is a pinch "shallow" and short. Meaning that it goes back and forth quickly and doesn't go very far from the original fretted note. I linked you to that vid I did where I was using really wide vibrato do show you what that sounds like and what it looks like. Watch that video again and try what I'm doing. I'm not saying use this type of vibrato all the time, just be able to do what I'm doing and make it sound that way. So that, when you need wider vibrato, you can just whip it out. It usually involves using your thumb against the neck and pulling up and down on the string instead of left and right. The left and right thing creates very shallow vibrato. You are looking for deeep/wide vibrato. But in a controlled way.

Try to play what I"m playing here. If you can do that, you can play wide vibrato. This is played against Gabriels Pearl Jam backing which you can download in the pearl jam collab. It's great practice for playing with fuller vibrato. If you get used to it, you will be able to come back to this rec with much better vibrato control. Stepping away is sometimes a good thing. Especially if your progress has hit a plateu.

I can see you have put a lot of work in to this learning the piece and that's to be commended. The technical bits are an easy fix as far as recording goes (less gain on guitar, higher volume on the background music in the mix), and the technique bits are an easy fix as well (learning to use wide up and down vibrato), just takes a pinch more time to work it out. Come back to this one after trying your vibrato on something where you don't have to play certain notes so that you don't feel rushed to the next note and can focus on the vibrato. That's what the pearl jam collab would be great for.

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post Apr 24 2018, 10:37 AM
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Hey there!

First of all....overall impression is good and let's say that being at your gig, listening to this I would enjoy it from a musical point of view. There is one thing that is disturbing me mostly and I would like to point it out because it also can affect your future progress. Your picking is very random and very often you use upstrokes on the strong beats in the bar which is not a natural behavior not mentioning that upstroke has a different tonality than downstroke. Try to imagine your righ hand dancin lef and right (down and up) each stroke in the bar would have it's naturally assigned picking direction. It will literally pulse in the rhythm of the track...just like while strumming. It creates a great rhythmical connection with the track and also very consisent, always regular picking patterns for same licks. It not only helsp to keep better timming but it also makes you well glued with the track groove-wise. I can promise you that while trying to apply this you will 100% feel a discomfort but that how better things are....they are always worse than the old habits when you start to change things so don't expect to understand this immediately. It's a kind of thing that you know how important it is once you master it....and stop to imagine how could ever things work without it. Randomness is a first bareer to hole the progress in a playing technique.
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