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Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 3 2010, 08:34 PM

Hello Chandra,

We are starting with our MTP work. For your 1st assignment I have decided to give you some theory and harmony reading with questions you need to respond to. If you do these questions before deadline I will ask you more questions until deadline is completed!
Here is your 1st assignment!

1st assignment :
Theory and harmony reading with extra questions!

- I would like you to read my posts from links provided below.
- Once you read it all, memorize 3 and 4 part harmony in C major scale.
- Learn to apply scale degrees rather then numbers ( I in C major is C, IV in C is F etc).
- Write out in this thread all notes for 3 and 4 part harmony in C major as well as in F and G major scales.

Here are the links:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=30271

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=30193

Deadline for your 1st assignment is 9th of June!

Let me know if you got any extra questions.

Pedja

Posted by: maharzan Jun 4 2010, 01:47 AM

Hi Pedja,

3 part harmony...

Basically, it consists of 3 notes to form a chord and the notes used are 1, 3, 5 from the scale.

Scale Degrees I, IV, V - Major chords
Scale Degrees II, III, VI - Minor chords
Scale Degree VII - Diminished chord

C Major
=====

No sharps or flats to it would be

I - Cmaj (C E G)
II - Dmin (D F A)
III - Emin (E G B )
IV - Fmaj (F A C)
V - Gmaj (G B D)
VI - Amin (A C E)
VII - Bdim (B D F)
VIII - Cmaj (C E G)

F Major
=====

1 flat

I - Fmaj (F A C)
II - Gmin (G Bb D )
III - Amin (A C E)
IV - Bbmaj (Bb D F)
V - Cmaj (C E G)
VI - Dmin (D F A)
VII - Edim (E G Bb)
VIII - Fmaj (F A C)

G Major
=====

1 sharp

I - Gmaj (G B D )
II - Amin (A C E)
III - Bmin (B D F#)
IV - Cmaj (C E G)
V - Dmaj (D F# A)
VI - Emin (E G B )
VII - F#dim (F# A C)
VIII - Gmaj (G B D)


4 part harmony...

Basically, it consists of 4 notes to form a chord and the notes used are 1, 3, 5, 7 from the scale.

Scale Degrees I, IV - Major 7th chords
Scale Degrees II, III, VI - Minor 7th chords
Scale Degree V - Dominant 7th chord
Scale Degree VII - Minor 7b5

C Major
=====

No sharps or flats to it would be

I - Cmaj7 (C E G B )
II - Dmin7 (D F A C)
III - Emin7 (E G B D )
IV - Fmaj7 (F A C E)
V - G7 (G B D F)
VI - Amin7 (A C E G)
VII - Bmin7b5 (B D F A)
VIII - Cmaj7 (C E G B )


F Major
=====

1 flat

I - Fmaj7 (F A C E )
II - Gmin7 (G Bb D F)
III - Amin7 (A C E G)
IV - Bbmaj7 (Bb D F A)
V - C7 (C E G Bb )
VI - Dmin7 (D F A C)
VII - Emin7b5 (E G Bb D)
VIII - Fmaj7 (F A C E)

G Major
=====

1 sharp

I - Gmaj7 (G B D F#)
II - Amin7 (A C E G)
III - Bmin7 (B D F# A)
IV - Cmaj7 (C E G B )
V - D7 (D F# A C)
VI - Emin7 (E G B D )
VII - F#min7b5 (F# A C E)
VIII - Gmaj7 (G B D F#)

Hope I got it right.

Thanks,
Chandra

Posted by: maharzan Jun 4 2010, 02:55 AM

Ok, I will also write up something about Diatonic substitution as its in the link you provided.

Diatonic substitution simply means you can substitute any chords with other chords within the same scale and there are 3 ways you can do it

1. TONIC
2. SUBDOMINANT
3. DOMINANT

TONIC type functioning chord is the strongest sounding chord within the key. It has all or most of the notes on the chord (1, 3, 5). If we take C Major scale, C Major chord is the strongest tonic chord as it has all ( 1, 3, 5 or C E G) notes in it. If we look at other chords on this scale, most notes of this C Major Chord lies in III and VI chords.

III is E min (E G B ). It has 3 and 5 notes but not the 1 note which is the strongest note.
VI is A min (A C E). Again we have 2 notes, 1 & 3 but not 5 note. Since this has 1st note C, this is stronger tonic substitution than E min.

SUDOMINANT type functioning chords have 4, 6 notes. Simply putting, we see 4 and 6 notes in the II and IV degree namely, Dmin (D A F) and F maj (F A C). F maj is stronger since it has C in it as well.

DOMINANT type functioning chords have 4, 7 notes. These chords are very unstable and quickly want to resolve to Tonic chords so they sound pleasant to the ears. If we analyze, we have V and VII chords G Maj and B dim.

So, as a conclusion, we can replace each scale degree by another within these 3 functioning type chords. So if we have I, we can substitute it with III and VI, if we have II, we can substitute it by IV and if we have V we can substitute it by VII and vice versa.

Thanks,
Chandra

Next is Modes..

Names / order

Ionian
Dorian
Phrygian
Lydian
Mixolydian
Aeolian
Locrian

So, if we are sticking to C Major, if we take each note as a root depending upon position, we can give it a name as below

Root Name
=== ====
C Ionian (Major mode)
D Dorian (Minor mode)
E Phrygian (Minor mode)
F Lydian (Major Mode)
G Mixolydian (Major mode)
A Aeolian (Minor mode)
B Locrian (I will study this in detail when I perfect all other modes )

Hope I didn't miss much here.

I need to learn how to analyze the chord progression and which key / mode it is in. I know how to write the degrees in roman now and I know the chord notations as you have in your cadence post.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 4 2010, 12:50 PM

Hey Chandra,

I checked your work and you did over 90% correct things here. I am very happy to see you working hard from day one. Lets look at the couple of things here that should be corrected.

- When you are doing 4 part harmony, chord on the 7th scale degree is Minor 7th flat five. We write that chord like this Min7b5. So whatever your VII scale degree letter name is in 4 part harmony in any major scale, it should have Min7b5 next to it. Check your work and see what you did with it.
- When you are doing 4 part harmony, chord on the 5th scale degree is Dominant 7th. We can write that chord in many ways, for example in C major 5th scale degree is G so we could use G dominant 7 (too long), G dom7 (ok but not necessary) and G7 (perfect!!!). So from now on, for any 4 part harmony in major scale on scale degree V write 7 next to it. The reason why we don't need to write out dominant or dom before it is because we use maj7 for major7th and min7 for minor7th chords, when we put just 7 next to the chord it automatically stands for dominant 7th chord.
Hope all this was correct, you can go back and edit the post now with those mistakes.
Now, since we have plenty of time before your 2nd assignment let me give you more keys to write out !

Try to do the same thing you did for C G and F keys but this time do it for Bb and D ! If you do that before deadline, I will give you 2 more keys

Posted by: maharzan Jun 4 2010, 06:21 PM

3 part harmony...

Bb Major
=====

2 flat notes - Bb, Eb

I - Bbmaj (Bb D F)
II - Cmin (C Eb G)
III - Dmin (D F A )
IV - Ebmaj (Eb G Bb)
V - Fmaj (F A C)
VI - Gmin (G Bb D)
VII - Adim (A C Eb)
VIII - Bbmaj (Bb D F)

D Major
=====

2 sharps (F#, C#)

I - Dmaj (D F# A)
II - Emin (E G B )
III - F#min (F# A C#)
IV - Gmaj (G B D )
V - Amaj (A C# E)
VI - Bmin (B D F#)
VII - C#dim (C# E G)
VIII - Dmaj (D F# A)



4 part harmony...

Bb Major
=====

I - Bbmaj7 (Bb D F A)
II - Cmin7 (C Eb G Bb)
III - Dmin7 (D F A C )
IV - Ebmaj7 (Eb G Bb D)
V - F7 (F A C Eb)
VI - Gmin7 (G Bb D F)
VII - Amin7b5 (A C Eb G)
VIII - Bbmaj7 (Bb D F A)


D Major
=====

I - Dmaj7 (D F# A C#)
II - Emin7 (E G B D)
III - F#min7 (F# A C# E)
IV - Gmaj7 (G B D F#)
V - A7 (A C# E G)
VI - Bmin7 (B D F# A)
VII - C#min7b5 (C# E G B )
VIII - Dmaj7 (D F# A C#)

PS I have edited my first post as well.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 4 2010, 07:19 PM

Hey Chandra,

Please correct VII scale degree. It should be Min7b5 instead of Dim7b5 (doesn't exist

Posted by: maharzan Jun 5 2010, 03:16 AM

Oops.. I didn't notice that..

Thanks Pedja.

Now Done!

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 5 2010, 12:33 PM

Great Chandra, now do A and Eb major!

Posted by: maharzan Jun 5 2010, 02:05 PM

3 part harmony...

Eb Major
=====

3 flat notes - Eb, Ab, Bb

I - Ebmaj (Eb G Bb)
II - Fmin (F Ab C)
III - Gmin (G Bb D )
IV - Abmaj (Ab C Eb)
V - Bbmaj (Bb D F)
VI - Cmin (C Eb G)
VII - Ddim (D F Ab)
VIII - Ebmaj (Eb G Bb)


A Major
=====

3 sharps (C#, F#, G#)

I - Amaj (A C# E)
II - Bmin (B D F# )
III - C#min (C# E G#)
IV - Dmaj (D F# A )
V - Emaj (E G# B )
VI - F#min (F# A C#)
VII - G#dim (G# B D)
VIII - Amaj (A C# E)



4 part harmony...

Eb Major
=====

I - Ebmaj7 (Eb G Bb D)
II - Fmin7 (F Ab C Eb)
III - Gmin7 (G Bb D F)
IV - Abmaj7 (Ab C Eb G)
V - Bb7 (Bb D F Ab)
VI - Cmin7 (C Eb G Bb)
VII - Dmin7b5 (D F Ab C)
VIII - Ebmaj7 (Eb G Bb D)


A Major
=====

I - Amaj7 (A C# E G#)
II - Bmin7 (B D F# A)
III - C#min7 (C# E G# B )
IV - Dmaj7 (D F# A C#)
V - E7 (E G# B D)
VI - F#min7 (F# A C# E)
VII - G#min7b5 (G# B D F)
VIII - Amaj7 (A C# E G#)

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 5 2010, 03:57 PM

Awesome!
Go for E and Ab major now.
When we finish both cycles I will go more into detail what to do with this

Posted by: maharzan Jun 5 2010, 04:54 PM

3 part harmony...

Ab Major
=====

4 flat notes - Ab, Bb, Db, Eb

I - Abmaj (Ab C Eb)
II - Bbmin (Bb Db F)
III - Cmin (C Eb G )
IV - Dbmaj (Db F Ab)
V - Ebmaj (Eb G Bb)
VI - Fmin (F Ab C)
VII - Gdim (G Bb Db)
VIII - Abmaj (Ab C Eb)


E Major
=====

4 sharps (F#, G#, C#, D#)

I - Emaj (E G# B )
II - F#min (F# A C# )
III - G#min (G# B D#)
IV - Amaj (A C# E )
V - Bmaj (B D# F# )
VI - C#min (C# E G#)
VII - D#dim (D# F# A)
VIII - Emaj (E G# B )



4 part harmony...

Ab Major
=====

4 flat notes - Ab, Bb, Db, Eb

I - Abmaj7 (Ab C Eb G)
II - Bbmin7 (Bb Db F Ab)
III - Cmin7 (C Eb G Bb)
IV - Dbmaj7 (Db F Ab C)
V - Eb7 (Eb G Bb Db)
VI - Fmin7 (F Ab C Eb)
VII - Gmin7b5 (G Bb Db F)
VIII - Abmaj7 (Ab C Eb G)


E Major
=====

4 sharps (F#, G#, C#, D#)

I - Emaj7 (E G# B D# )
II - F#min7 (F# A C# E )
III - G#min7 (G# B D# F#)
IV - Amaj7 (A C# E G#)
V - B7 (B D# F# A)
VI - C#min7 (C# E G# B )
VII - D#min7b5 (D# F# A C#)
VIII - Emaj7 (E G# B D#)

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 5 2010, 07:38 PM

Ok , 2 more keys, B and Db major

Posted by: maharzan Jun 6 2010, 04:41 AM

3 part harmony...

Db Major
=====

5 flat notes - Db, Eb, Gb, Ab, Bb

I - Dbmaj (Db F Ab)
II - Ebmin (Eb Gb Bb)
III - Fmin (F Ab C )
IV - Gbmaj (Gb Bb Db)
V - Abmaj (Ab C Eb)
VI - Bbmin (Bb Bb F)
VII - Cdim (C Eb Gb)
VIII - Dbmaj (Db F Ab)


B Major
=====

5 sharps (C#, D#, F#, G#, A#)

I - Bmaj (B D# F# )
II - C#min (C# E G# )
III - D#min (D# F# A#)
IV - Emaj (E G# B )
V - F#maj (F# A# C# )
VI - G#min (G# B D#)
VII - A#dim (A# C# E)
VIII - Bmaj (B D# F# )



4 part harmony...

Db Major
=====

5 flat notes - Db, Eb, Gb, Ab, Bb

I - Dbmaj7 (Db F Ab C)
II - Ebmin7 (Eb Gb Bb Db)
III - Fmin7 (F Ab C Eb)
IV - Gbmaj7 (Gb Bb Db F)
V - Ab7 (Ab C Eb Gb)
VI - Bbmin7 (Bb Bb F Ab)
VII - Cmin7b5 (C Eb Gb Bb)
VIII - Dbmaj7 (Db F Ab C)


B Major
=====

5 sharps (C#, D#, F#, G#, A#)

I - Bmaj7 (B D# F# A# )
II - C#min7 (C# E G# B )
III - D#min7 (D# F# A# C#)
IV - Emaj7 (E G# B D#)
V - F#7 (F# A# C# E)
VI - G#min7 (G# B D# F# )
VII - A#dim7 (A# C# E G#)
VIII - Bmaj7 (B D# F# A#)

Posted by: maharzan Jun 6 2010, 05:26 AM

Hi Pedja,

I am researching more and looking at charts provided by Ivan. and saw there are 3 more - Gb (6 flats), F# (6 sharps) and C# (7 sharps). Interestingly, why should we do this as Gb and F# actually are the same chords (scales) except for theory.. and then C# is already been covered by Db. Anyway, I am just publishing this so I can research something more later.

Next 2 chords...

Gb, F#

3 part harmony...

Gb Major
=====

6 flat notes - Gb, Ab, Bb, Cb, Db, Eb

Question - Why is Cb used here? I only found 5 flats first then after looking it should be 6, I found out B is called Cb.. only for theory as we are moving down from Db to Cb instead of calling it B?

I - Gbmaj (Gb Bb Db)
II - Abmin (Ab Cb Eb)
III - Bbmin (Bb Db F )
IV - Cbmaj (Cb Eb Gb)
V -Dbmaj (Db F Ab)
VI - Ebmin (Eb Gb Bb)
VII - Fdim (F Ab Cb)
VIII - Gbmaj (Gb Bb Db)


F# Major
=====

6 sharps (F#, G#, A#, C#, D#, E#)

(Question - Again, I guess we call E# instead of F)

I - F#maj (F# A# C# )
II - G#min (G# B D# )
III - A#min (A# C# E#)
IV - Bmaj (B D# F# )
V - C#maj (C# E# G# )
VI - D#min (D# F# A#)
VII - E#dim (E# G# B )
VIII - F#maj (F# A# C# )



4 part harmony...

Gb Major
=====

6 flat notes - Gb, Ab, Bb, Cb, Db, Eb

I - Gbmaj7 (Gb Bb Db F)
II - Abmin7 (Ab Cb Eb Gb)
III - Bbmin7 (Bb Db F Ab)
IV - Cbmaj7 (Cb Eb Gb Bb)
V -Db7 (Db F Ab Cb)
VI - Ebmin7 (Eb Gb Bb Db)
VII - Fmin7b5 (F Ab Cb Eb)
VIII - Gbmaj7 (Gb Bb Db F)


F# Major
=====

6 sharps (F#, G#, A#, C#, D#, E#)

I - F#maj7 (F# A# C# E#)
II - G#min7 (G# B D# F#)
III - A#min7 (A# C# E# G#)
IV - Bmaj7 (B D# F# A#)
V - C#7 (C# E# G# B )
VI - D#min7 (D# F# A# C#)
VII - E#min7b5 (E# G# B D# )
VIII - F#maj7 (F# A# C# E# )



Remaining chord

3 part harmony...

C# Major
=====

7 sharps ( C#, D#, E#, F#, G#, A#, B#)

I - C#maj (C# E# G# )
II - D#min (D# F# A# )
III - E#min (E# G# B#)
IV - F#maj (F# A# C# )
V - G#maj (G# B# D# )
VI - A#min (A# C# E#)
VII - B#dim (B# D# F#)
VIII - C#maj (C# E# G# )


4 part harmony...

I - C#maj7 (C# E# G# B#)
II - D#min7 (D# F# A# C#)
III - E#min7 (E# G# B# D#)
IV - F#maj7 (F# A# C# E#)
V - G#7 (G# B# D# F#)
VI - A#min7 (A# C# E# G#)
VII - B#min7b5 (B# D# F# A#)
VIII - C#maj7 (C# E# G# B#)


And then, here is the Triads Root Inversion (part I) video



I will also practice part 2 and 3 next.

Thanks!

Posted by: maharzan Jun 6 2010, 08:07 AM

Ok, I have learnt part 2 and 3 and I will record these tomorrow as I will be off for the rest of the day today.

I was looking at your triads in songs series and in your Video 1, I see that you have mentioned this

Shouldn't the 2nd degree in A Aeolian be just bVI ?

I still yet to understand how the keys are recognized so probably I would love to learn that next.

Posted by: maharzan Jun 7 2010, 04:10 AM

Hi Pedja,

I hope I am not bombarding with all these stuff.

I just tried the next 2 parts of open triads and here they are. Sorry about frame cut off (didn't realize until I was editing it).

First Inversion



Second Inversion




I will look into 4 part harmony now.

Thanks.

Posted by: maharzan Jun 7 2010, 05:54 AM

Hmm.. Can you please send me the tab for the 4 part harmony part 1 series? Its showing me tab of part 2 which I practiced and wow.. this is exactly what I need to practice.. as they call it tongue twisters for fingers!!! Yea.. now I got some skills.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 7 2010, 09:58 AM

I suggest you do OPEN TRIADS before you go to 4 part harmony. There is 4 lessons for Open triads

Posted by: maharzan Jun 7 2010, 10:03 AM

Hi Pedja,

But it says bVImin in that whereas the chord is F and not minor I guess. Anyway, yep, I will probably understand more as we go through this.

Did you mean the triads in songs context lesson? I am practicing 4 part (Part 2) just to train my fingers.

Thanks,
Chandra

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 7 2010, 10:07 AM

Hi Chandra,

If it says bVI min thats a typo it should just be bVI (unless there is F minor chord in there!).
I am referring to these type of lessons:http://PART%201

Posted by: maharzan Jun 7 2010, 11:28 AM

I just learnt the song context one too.. I will get into the G series immediately.

Btw, I have posted these 3 takes on REC forums too, just in case you want to mark them.

Hmm.. open triads look quite different.. I was wondering shouldn't it be same just move the triads to G position? Good to know though. looking at the vids now..

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 7 2010, 11:29 AM

Awesome Chandra!
Glad to hear you are on it man. Open triads have different (open sound, more than octave distance between lowest and top note) and look different. Think Eric Johnson , clean with delay sound

Posted by: maharzan Jun 7 2010, 02:32 PM

Hey Pedja,

Just wanted to let you know that after practicing the Triads in Song context, I have composed my own melody using triads. How cool is that? I have set up a drum loop and will be recording either today or tomorrow.

I love composing...

Cheers!
Chandra

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 7 2010, 03:00 PM

Fantastic Chandra!
Thats the whole purpose of my lessons. I present you with way, you learn the method and then stat working on things by yourself !

Pedja

Posted by: maharzan Jun 8 2010, 04:46 AM

Hey Pedja,

Alrighty, here is what I came up with.. just a simple drum loop with the guitar.



Hope you like it.

Thanks,
Chandra

Posted by: maharzan Jun 8 2010, 06:32 AM

And the original lesson itself - Triads in a Song Context.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 8 2010, 10:46 AM

Chandra you did great man. Both videos sound good. I am glad you went over it and were creative to make your own.
Are you doing open triads now?

Posted by: maharzan Jun 8 2010, 10:55 AM

Oh yea.. perfected the first 2 parts. will post video later today or tomorrow again.. Don't you think I am crazy?

Thanks Pedja.

Oh, I had a question...

Don't we say, we move up the neck, if we are going towards 24th fret.. and then move down, if we are moving towards 1st fret?

I think you said somewhere on the video that we are scaling down 1 octave like B note in G, but then we are actually using the higher octact B note (scale up?).

Also, there is a minor mistake in your 2nd part open triads video in the TAB. the C chord has 1 note off.

Thanks,
Chandra

Posted by: maharzan Jun 8 2010, 04:50 PM

Hi Pedja,

Hope you saw my question... I had added it later but the forum seems to add it on the same post for certain amount of time. So in case you didn't check later, the question is above.

Thanks,
Chandra

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 8 2010, 05:09 PM

Hey Chandra,
I don't think you are crazy man. I am very happy to see you working hard and learning all those chord vocabulary lessons. It will be of great use to you as you already saw with closed triads.
Regarding your question, we can look it at both ways. Moving down can mean moving down melodically so we would end up in lower register. Moving down can also mean moving down the guitar neck which is contrary (going up). I am not sure what video you are referring to. I might have been talking about octave displacement. That happens when we are running out of frets and we transpose the same thing down an octave.
I will check the tab but those lessons were published while ago and I don't have administration powers for them anymore so I can't change anything in there

You welcome !

Pedja

Posted by: maharzan Jun 8 2010, 06:14 PM

Great. I will post 2 parts of open triad early tomorrow.. the 3rd one has huge stretch.. so kinda struggling on that one.. just the Am chord but after few practices, I should be able to do it.

Posted by: maharzan Jun 9 2010, 05:20 AM

Okay, here are the 2 parts of Open Triads in G major scale. I will get to part 3 today.

Part I - We are basically scaling up the 2nd note (one octave higher) in each chord (B for G chord, G B D so its G D .



Part II - We are basically scaling down the 2nd note (one octave lower) in each chord (B for G chord, G B D so its B G D).



Thanks.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 9 2010, 03:18 PM

Fantastic work Chandra! Keep this pace up and I have no worries for you

Posted by: maharzan Jun 10 2010, 05:05 AM

Okay, I did the 3rd part as well. From what I understood, we are using 2nd inversion and taking the 2nd note (G) one octave higher. Hope I understood it well.



Next, I am going to work on the open triads in a song context lesson before starting the 4 part harmony series.

Cheers!

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 10 2010, 11:58 AM

Great work Chandra!
So happy to see you managed to pull stretches on last string set man. It looks like you did REC for next 3 months haha

Hope I will post your new assignment today, stay tuned!

Posted by: maharzan Jun 10 2010, 01:47 PM

Haha.. Oh YEA! I am going to finish all.. just want to grasp as much as possible.. I learnt the song context lesson too. So, hopefully, I can post that tomorrow.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 10 2010, 01:54 PM

Done already ? Look forward to it man. Will give you some interesting assignments in future for sure

Posted by: maharzan Jun 11 2010, 05:04 AM

Hey Pedja,

As always, here is what I have done. I could have practiced more but was impatient in starting to compose my own melody for next assignments.



Thanks,
Chandra

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 11 2010, 11:21 AM

Once again great work Chandra!

Posted by: maharzan Jun 11 2010, 01:39 PM

Thank you so much Pedja. I am exploring some nice rhythms now.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 11 2010, 02:58 PM

Great to hear that! So yesterday we arranged 2 assignments for you in video chat, correct? 2nd assignment chord progression using closed and open triad and 3rd assignment soloing/improvising/composing melody over it?
I will post this assignment in a bit , don't forget video chat at 6:30pm GMT+1 timezone!

Posted by: maharzan Jun 11 2010, 06:09 PM

Yup absolutely right.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 12 2010, 02:59 PM

Chandra here is your 2nd assignment !

2nd assignment
Compose chord progression, make backing track using material from Triad lessons

- Compose chord progression using closed and open triads.
- Key of your choice, you could also modulate in the piece (not restricted to one specific key)
- Tempo of your choice!
- Backing track should contain at least bass guitar and rhythm/harmony guitar part. Drums would be great but its optional!
- Submit your assignment in this thread via MP3 file and write out your chord progression (possibly in guitar pro)

Deadline for your 2nd assignment is 19th of June.

Let me know if you got any questions!

Pedja

Posted by: maharzan Jun 12 2010, 04:38 PM

Great.. I have already composed the progression.. but was struggling to start laying out drum tracks.. I suck at it. Bass is worst. I will try though. I am just sticking to key of G for now as I was to implement this first. So many chord positions to remember, finding it hard to remember.. haha.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 14 2010, 06:14 PM

Do what you can and lets see what you come up with by the deadline.

Posted by: maharzan Jun 19 2010, 07:55 AM

Hi Pedja,

First congratulations on Serbia's win.

So, here is what I have come up with. It doesn't have bass yet since I don't know how to create bass lines. and I don't have bass guitar as well.

Tempo: 80bpm

Chords:

/ G / F#dim Em / Bm / D / C / Bm Am / G / G /

/ G / F#dim Adim / Bm / Am D / Em / C / Am Bm / G /

/ Em / D Am / G / G /

/ Em / D C / G / G /

/ Em / D Am / G / G /

/ C / D G / G / G /

Hope you like it.


Thanks,
Chandra

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 19 2010, 12:49 PM

Hi Chandra,

Thanks a lot my friend. It was huge celebration yesterday at my place and also in the whole world. Serbia has a lot of population living abroad in countries like Germany, Austria, USA, Canada etc, so Serbian people in those countries celebrated as well. Massive celebration and great time overall Now we will watch Gana vs Australia at 4pm and cheer for Australia to get a point or win. That way we go trough just by wining against Australia

Anyways man, this was great work! I like what you did with voicings and cadences are there as well. Regarding bass line, you could just record root of the chord and let it stay for whole duration of chord. If you don't have bass guitar, doesn't matter. Type bass part in Guitar pro, export it as midi , import it into your DAW and assign some sort of Bass VST to play it. If you know how to work with midi in your DAW this might be even easier (open midi track and type in notes right there then assign the VST instrument to play it).
Overall this was pretty cool man. For extra work (for yourself) try to add the bass line (simple, just roots for starters) to enrich everything.

Expect your remaining assignments later today!

Pedja

Posted by: maharzan Jun 19 2010, 03:42 PM

Thanks Pedja. I do have a Serbian friend who works here and we play football every Sunday.

Anyway, the DAW and Guitar Pro is not so easy for me. I will record the bass line using some low octave plugin from the guitar itself I guess.

Will post soon.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 19 2010, 10:54 PM

Here are your remaining 2 assignments Chandra.

3rd assignment:
Compose melody and improvise over chord progression

- Using the chord progression bellow, compose a melody and improvise.
- Post your work in audio and/or video in this thread here!
/ G / F#dim Em / Bm / D / C / Bm Am / G / G /

/ G / F#dim Adim / Bm / Am D / Em / C / Am Bm / G /

/ Em / D Am / G / G /

/ Em / D C / G / G /

/ Em / D Am / G / G /

/ C / D G / G / G /


4th assignment:
REC lesson

- Complete lesson found http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/4_Part_Harmony_Drop_2_Voicings_Part_1/for REC.
- Submit your take in REC forum and in this thread here.
- Use backing track provided in this thread.

Deadline for remaining 2 assignment is 30th of June.

Let me know if you got any questions !

Pedja

Posted by: maharzan Jun 20 2010, 03:01 AM

Great. I will work on them.

Questions:

1. What do you mean by compose melody and improvise? Are these like 2 things or 1? From what I understand, composing is spending quite sometime and working on what works best. Improvisation is you play the track and whatever comes to you, you just play.

2. For the 4 part harmony, the tabs are for Part 2 so can you please post the tabs for Part 1 here?

Thanks,
Chandra

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 20 2010, 03:13 AM

1. Try to do one chorus of composed one chorus improvised. If that is too much pick one only.

2. Here you go

Posted by: maharzan Jun 20 2010, 03:17 AM

Okay. Thanks Pedja.

Posted by: maharzan Jun 23 2010, 02:41 PM

Hey Pedja,

Heres the 4 part harmony part I video.



I will post it in the REC forum.

Thanks,
Chandra

and http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=35694 is the REC Thread.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 27 2010, 03:29 PM

Thank you Chandra, I graded it already couple of days ago.
How is the solo coming along? Make sure you make the deadline!

Posted by: maharzan Jun 28 2010, 03:37 PM

I haven't done much actually.. I will get down to it tomorrow for sure. I thought I had till the weekend.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 28 2010, 03:53 PM

Well you got that wrong. Probably first thing you got wrong in June

Posted by: maharzan Jun 29 2010, 01:04 PM

haha... Pedja.

Okay, here is what I have come up with. I am still not yet ready to try out on the fly improvisation. This piece just has so many chords going on which makes it complicated.



Thanks!

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 29 2010, 03:49 PM

Great stuff Chandra! You have completed all the assignments in time and did many extra ones I am very happy with your work in June. Lets hope it continues with the same pace in July! I will close this thread tomorrow for GMC management purpose but will open a new one for July soon after that.

Posted by: maharzan Jun 29 2010, 04:55 PM

Thanks Pedja. I will look forward to further assignments.. I will work on 4 part harmony in the meantime.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 29 2010, 11:39 PM

Great Chandra, that will be your assignment in July anyways so its good to be ready for it

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jun 30 2010, 11:24 PM

Chandra thank you for completing all assignment on the deadline. I will open your July thread soon, for time being this one will be closed!