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Sep 9 2009, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE (steve25 @ Sep 9 2009, 01:39 AM)  I'm beginning to wonder whether it really is as simple as "practice" Well spotted, practice is quite simple task!! And composing is VERY tough one. Eventually you'll enter a period in your life when songs start to aline natually. I also had many riffs, solos and licks laying around and never made any of it, it'll be gone with experience. 
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Sep 9 2009, 03:21 PM
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Are you familiar with theory? Most players have problems developing their licks & riffs, because they do not know the theory behind it (what key are you in, what chords are you using, what scales). This enables you to quickly overcome some problems, connect the pieces together more effectively and make a better workflow.
Also I wanna quote Harlan Howard here: A lot of songs you write are just for exercise -- just pencil sharpeners. So just keep rocking, it will be alright. Learn the chords, and learn the write music by trial and error. This post has been edited by Ivan Milenkovic: Sep 9 2009, 03:23 PM -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Sep 9 2009, 03:54 PM
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I wonder if the real big thing that's missing for you is experiencing in structure? If the answer to any of these questions is "Yes" or "Sort of" then that is almost certainly the issue:
- everything sounds like an intro - my songs don't change, they just keep going - i don't really know where to go after this part I wrote which is (1, 4, 8) bars. What Ivan says is correct, knowing what else you can accomplish in the same key will help but even beyond that, knowing that you need to cause and resolve tension, knowing that you can change key at ANY time (as long as it sounds good to you) is where you need a little push. Some common solutions you can try with your existing song parts: - repeat the same basic song part starting at a new root note of: ...1 string or five frets up in pitch (perfect fourth) ...3 frets up in pitch (minor third) ...2 frets up in pitch (major second) ...3 frets DOWN in pitch (inverted minor third) - pick new chords from the same key! - drastically pick some other new progression and find out if it sounds good to you. -------------------- ::jafomatic
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Sep 9 2009, 04:51 PM
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Yeah, what you're missing is structure and storytelling. Here's a great example (tho by far NOT the only way to do this) that may help you remember some song "parts", how to arrive at them, when to use them etc:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/rhythm-gu...r-arrangements/ -------------------- ::jafomatic
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Sep 10 2009, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE (steve25 @ Sep 9 2009, 02:12 PM) I know man but it's not as if I haven't been trying as I have been writing stuff down and trying to put stuff into songs for a long time. Also I have licks which are a variety of different styles so it's not like I'm only trying to write a death metal song or a blues song or something I'm being open. I mean I know what sort of style I want to do if I were to ever release an album as a solo project but it doesn't stop me from trying other stuff I think it's good to be open minded right? Of course!! 99% of composers are inspired by something or someone, mainly through learning or playing music from other composers, that's the fact. Be open minded, learn as much as possible, write all the time, things will get filtered nicely after a while. -------------------- Youtube
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Sep 10 2009, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE (steve25 @ Sep 10 2009, 06:33 AM) I can't view that lesson at the moment I'm hoping to sign up again shortly when I'm sure I have enough. Even the main lesson page (that is free to all) contains the song sections and names. They're not unique to rock, either. It's a place to start. -------------------- ::jafomatic
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