Thoughts From The Great Lukather Regarding Musicians And Social Media |
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Oct 13 2013, 04:40 PM
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Since there have been a few discussions around social media and artists today, I thought it would be a good idea to see how the great artists that have been through a different age, when the internet was not in existence, regard the possibilities brought up by the new technology and especially by social media promotion.
Steve Lukather's thoughts are not so shining when it comes to this topic - click here if you want to know why: http://mikeec.tumblr.com/post/24172050837/...s-it-like-it-is |
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Oct 13 2013, 07:21 PM
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Bitter much? Egad that guy has gotten seriously offended by the what things have developed. He has some very valid points to be sure, but railing against the the nature of the beast just makes him sound bitter. Almost like railing against downloading music, or railing against the sun rising. At some point you just have to take things as they come and move on right? He is correct of course that the middle section of artists who used to be able to earn a living is pretty much gone and everyone now can make a record on their iphone etc. But there has never been a better time to be a musician IMHO simply do to the fact that you can now get good gear for cheap and share your music with the world.
 It's true making a living from it is probably harder than it ever was but that's the way the cook crumbles I hope he chills a bit, he's a great player Todd QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Oct 13 2013, 11:40 AM)  Since there have been a few discussions around social media and artists today, I thought it would be a good idea to see how the great artists that have been through a different age, when the internet was not in existence, regard the possibilities brought up by the new technology and especially by social media promotion. Steve Lukather's thoughts are not so shining when it comes to this topic - click here if you want to know why: http://mikeec.tumblr.com/post/24172050837/...s-it-like-it-is |
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Oct 14 2013, 02:18 AM
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He's not bitter. He's a legendary guitarist that still works. He has always called 'bullshit' when he sees it. It's his perspective. If you ask him a question he'll tell you what he thinks. He doesn't accept the new model. Cest la vie. He doesn't have to and it doesn't matter. He made his mark ... and his bank.
The great thing about Lukather is that he doesn't pull his punches. So many guys edit their 'real' opinion for the interview and the camera. Not him. It ain't all sweet little candies and pretty lights, -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Oct 14 2013, 03:53 PM
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He doesn't need to 'adapt'. It wouldn't be any fun for him anyway.
When you've spent most of the 70s through the 90s recording to 2" tape in studios like Capitol 'A', the Village, Cherokee, Sunset Sound, Ocean Way, etc. - with the caliber of players (and budgets) he did ... it just ain't the same *for him* to do it the new way. It's sort like a Formula 1 or Nascar driver getting into a Toyota Prius. As one who came up during the transition from tape to digital and studio facility to home recording ... trust me, if you never did it the old way - you're better off. No value judgement from me. Just an observation from a guy who was there and crossed the divide. This post has been edited by klasaine: Oct 14 2013, 04:35 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Oct 15 2013, 02:44 PM
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I think that he is a fantastic musician and that he has done lots of great music for many years. I understand what he writes there and there are some ideas in which I agree. But I think that he is generalizing. I believe and have examples of lots of bands and musicians that are making great music, great albums, as in the old days, and also there are many bands that are making lots of money with his music. I think that the rules and possibilities changed compared to the 80's but I don't think that we are worse, we have to understand these new rules and possibilities.
This book/site is a good starting point to understand it: http://www.newrockstarphilosophy.com/ -------------------- My lessons
Do you need a Guitar Plan? Join Gab's Army Check my band:Cirse Check my soundcloud:Soundcloud Please subscribe to my:Youtube Channel |
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But, kidding aside, I think that a smart adaptable man, makes good use of whatever life throws in his way. |
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Oct 16 2013, 04:37 PM
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'It is not the strongest or the most intelligent species that survives, but the one who's the most responsive to change' Can't agree more with this phrase. This post has been edited by Gabriel Leopardi: Oct 17 2013, 01:23 AM -------------------- My lessons
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Oct 16 2013, 05:04 PM
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You're assuming that because he may not 'like' the new model - and is outspoken about it - that he hasn't adapted.
The guy plays probably 100+ gigs a year all over the world and still does recording sessions for TV, movies and other artists. I'm pretty sure he has his own digital media company (record/merch co.) and releases his own records via an on-line site ... -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Oct 16 2013, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 16 2013, 02:39 PM) IMHO, sounding like he's just out of touch and whining his head off. Some folks probably respect him his candor, but I lost a lot of respect for him just because it's so lame to hear him talk this way. Yes, the world has changed. But I honestly expected more from him than just complaints and bitterness.  'If' he wasn't really playing much anymore i'd agree with you. But he's a working player/artist. Technically, in the real world of making music, he's not out of touch because he's still in it. He may be ranting. It may be a 'rant' that I personally don't subscribe to (too much). But he's still out there doin' it. *As a matter of record he's ALWAYS been a bit curmudgeonly ... long before the the 'new model' and the internet. When he did a steady club gig here for years he was just a popular for his off the cuff comments over the mic as he was for his guitar playing. This post has been edited by klasaine: Oct 16 2013, 11:02 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Oct 17 2013, 12:17 AM
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Vai, Lukather - they're different guys and they have different personalities. They're both passionate about their art and their vocation. They express it in their own varied forms. That difference is what makes them both unique and viable to different groups of people. Art needs the + and the -, the pull and the push, the hot and the cold, the beautiful and the hideous, the good and the bad. They don't call him 'Luke' for nothing.
-------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Oct 17 2013, 02:25 PM
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Not so naive.
-------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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I like the way this thread is evolving 
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Oct 17 2013, 05:19 PM
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Hence the 'passion' thing. Not all passion is beautiful to behold - especially in print.
Lukather is angry and upset about music and the music business today. That doesn't mean he's 'bitter'. Two different things. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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