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Posted by: Steelkonsum Jan 30 2007, 12:03 AM

Okey I just practiced my first hour and 10 minutes of sweeping EVER!

And I came up with the idea too see how fast my progress is and so I decided to start the "From noone to someone!" serie which will be me uploading sweeps weekly or every other week so you guys can track my progress.

Naturally, I want feedback! My skills are novice and criticism is invaluable! Since this is a friendly board I think there's enough people to help me and ghive me pointers and advices throughout this learning session.

So here is, after a little more than an hour practice, my first 5-string sweep ever recorded as shown in Pavels lesson (I hope:P)

Posted by: Pavel Jan 30 2007, 01:03 AM

Ok - you have the mistake in playing that shape - you have to repeat the note on the 5th string and on the 1st string twice. Check out my lesson again and you'll notice i repeat those notes.


And - practice it with the metronome - than you'll notice where your mistakes are. It's 6 notes up, and 6 notes down.

Posted by: Steelkonsum Jan 30 2007, 01:12 AM

Ah so you did. Will incorporate that and play it the correct way from now on then. Thanks for the heads-up.

Posted by: Pavel Jan 30 2007, 01:22 AM

Did you think it was a tab mistake? No way - when you get on those hard sweep lessons you'll se different shapes and they are all played different. Waiting for update!

Posted by: Steelkonsum Jan 30 2007, 01:23 AM

No I didnt think it was a mistake I just misread and thought it sounded OK the way I played it

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 30 2007, 01:50 AM

Apart from the rhythm thing - this was a pretty good first attempt. Be sure to practice with loads of distortion too - as this makes playing cleanly a lot harder!

Posted by: beebo Jan 31 2007, 06:39 AM

When I play clean sweeps it's harder to play faster and I think trying to play sweeps clean gets people frustrated it definetly does me . So like Kris said use alot of distortion!

Posted by: Zee Deveel Jan 31 2007, 06:46 AM

It's not harder to play faster, it's exactly the same except when you have loads of distortion you can't hear that you're playing like crap.

Posted by: Steelkonsum Jan 31 2007, 03:21 PM

Actually when playing one note per string or trying to let one note ring and play another then playing with distortion is a shietload harder to play clean because it sounds like pure mud if you dont change the way you angle your fretting finger. So with sweeps for example, on clean channel it doesnt sound too wierd if I accidently forget to lift a finger when moving to the next string but on distortion the muddy sound tells me "ah, ah, ah, dont be slackin'"

Cheerios.



P.S. My sweeps are really coming along so stay tuned

Posted by: Zee Deveel Feb 1 2007, 03:25 AM

This is true, but still, the reason he can play sweeps faster with distortion is because the distortion is covering up his mistakes.

Posted by: Pavel Feb 1 2007, 04:03 AM

Many people think delay and distortion is covering mistakes and here they are wrong. If you take 2 guitarists to compare - give them the same equipment and distortion settings you'll still be able to notice which one is playing better so the "he has a lot of distortion" is no excuse.

Posted by: Zee Deveel Feb 1 2007, 05:30 AM

Obviously, unless you're deaf but playing with distortion mistakes are a lot less noitceable than if you're playing clean.

Posted by: Pavel Feb 1 2007, 05:49 AM

Why don't we just throw away all of the distortion pedals and effect and get back to good old acoustic guitar

Posted by: Steelkonsum Feb 1 2007, 05:50 AM

Touch my pedal and you die.

Posted by: Pavel Feb 1 2007, 05:57 AM

Btw. why don't you upload some sweeps and show us how to sweep?

Posted by: Zee Deveel Feb 1 2007, 06:10 AM

I don't sweep.

Posted by: Pavel Feb 1 2007, 06:15 AM

Than you have no idea what you are talking about. No hard feelings!

Posted by: Zee Deveel Feb 1 2007, 06:26 AM

Just 'cause I don't sweep doesn't make me wrong. I realise that muting with distortion is difficult. However:

Someone said "it's easier to sweep faster with distortion on".

If he believes this to be true, the only possible reason for it to seem easier is because you're playing with not such good technique which is allowing you to seemingly play faster. You're doing exactly the same thing with the guitar, distortion doesn't magically make your hand move faster.

Posted by: Pavel Feb 1 2007, 06:34 AM

Beebo said: "When I play clean sweeps it's harder to play faster!"

Kris said: "Be sure to practice with loads of distortion too - as this makes playing cleanly a lot harder".

Kris was right, as you have to learn how to control the gain and noise.
Sweeps are very difficult and take years to master, you can't get them in 2 weeks.

Do you want to say that Rusty Cooley, Michael Angelo and other shredders hide behind the distortion?? Come on maaaaan. Be real.
Peace

Posted by: Zee Deveel Feb 1 2007, 06:36 AM

Where did I say it's easier to sweep with distortion? I actually stated "I realise muting with distortion is difficult".

Pavel, I think you and I just don't understand each other very well generally. A few times now I've posted something and you've thought I meant something else.

Here you think I mean shredding is much easier if you have lots of distortion.

In another thread you thought I meant that shredders are all talentless.

And in another thread you thought I meant you had to squeeze ridiculously hard with your thumb to play a barre chord.

Posted by: Pavel Feb 1 2007, 06:45 AM

Hahahaha didn't notice that! hahaha ok forget about everything!

Posted by: Zee Deveel Feb 1 2007, 06:49 AM

Hehe okay!

Actually though, I'm gonna go make a video of me trying to sweep and you can gimme tips (if you don't mind please). Sweeping is not something I've tried very much.

Posted by: Pavel Feb 1 2007, 06:58 AM

Sure m8! That's why i am here!

Posted by: Zee Deveel Feb 1 2007, 07:05 AM

Ohh watching your own right hand recorded is pretty interesting, does stuff you didn't think it is.

When coming back up is it ok to kind of pick the high e string?

Posted by: Pavel Feb 1 2007, 07:15 AM

Ofcourse you should pick the 1st string, watch my lesson - the basics show all.

Posted by: Zee Deveel Feb 1 2007, 07:16 AM

Oh I didn't notice you made this one, good job.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Feb 1 2007, 11:14 PM

I think you are being a little harsh Pavel.

I get Zee Devil's point - the same goes for speedpicking - people think they can play faster with distortion, when they are in fact just skipping notes (and can't hear it because of the distortion).

And even if I didn't agree with mr Zee I wouldn't use this conversational tone.

Posted by: Pavel Feb 2 2007, 12:03 AM

My apologize to Zee Deveel!

I just get really mad when someone is telling me that i suck at things he can't play himself.

But anyway i don't think Zee got it serious.
Peace

Posted by: PickNGrin Feb 3 2007, 05:11 PM

This is a neat idea, I'm waiting for next week's progress post!

I oughtta do this...I could use a little more speed too!

Posted by: PickNGrin Feb 11 2007, 05:50 PM

OK its been over a week..... progress?