What about this guitar?

https://www.thomann.de/se/fender_ed_obrien_stratocaster.htm

Yummi that looks really interesting. Any videos of the sustainer pickup in action? (I would be most interested in a demo showing lead sounds)

It's very subjective but most of mexican made Strat's I had in my hands' were very medium quality instruments. With this amount of money I would rather target a Japan Made or second hand American Standard (E4 series for 80's was a really nice one and not being over-priced becasue of it's age).

Besides this subjective note, considering the cost of sustainer itself and it's mounting at gutar tech the pice looks just fine.

As for a new Fender I have that dissonance in myself. From one point taking a guitar out of the box doesn't deliver any "spiritual experience" but from the other perspecitve...when trying to spot issues to complain....I need to admit...for the price they cost, these are technically well made instruments.....but I speak in general about everything above American Standard / American Pro (these days)

As for all the MIM's I always had weird feelings....but I try to convince myself becasue times change. Most of factories get their guitars through the PLEK machine. Comapring to Gibson, Fender truly keep the quality to not go below some acceptable point. Very often you can complain the guitar feels "soulless" but you can't say it doesn't have that specific wood acoustic response or sustain.

I would be slighly more trustable when it comes to Japan Made Fenders.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=59043

I thought it was just a few (like Gibson).



Cool demo, now that I see it remember that these sustainers go into feedback mode - so they don't actually sustain the intended note - but I guess that's just how it is.

They do that too, at least this one if I remember correct has 3 modes and one of them improves intended note. Its been a while I played it but do remember the sustainer doesn't work super aggressive, that mode can be selected always on.

Further on Darius comments, the quality didn't wow me but I didn't find anything to complain about either including setup. Not really a guitar to be sold many, as mentioned it doesn't have that typical Fender tone but the character is shifted to distortion usage. A cool thing I remember is probably the neck being super fat, hammer-on pull-of type playing was extremely easy even acoustically very loud.

Very fun guitar but not made to be ones only guitar.

The neck:

https://shop.fender.com/en-SE/electric-guit...5.html?rl=en_US


- "10/56 V"-shaped maple neck with 9.5"-radius maple fingerboard

- Custom "Flower of Life" neck plate; vintage-style hardware


Wide? Thin? Thick?

""Soft V"-shaped near the nut, it rounds to a "C" profile as you ascend the neck, making it great for both chord playing and soloing."

Sounds great to me, would allow you to get your thumb around comfortably, in the lower neck regions.

I don't see nut width anywhere but I think fender standard is 42 which I think is good (I usually prefer it not too wide)

Tank you
I have had a Schecter Hellraiser (Sustainer)-guitar but sold it as I was not comfortable with the Floyd Rose-bridge.

Relatively standard as Fender Strats go.
The caveat being that there are many slightly different variations and configurations that Fender has done since 1954.
This EOB Strat's neck leans towards the 'vintage' edge of the spectrum.

Yeah and that's also the beauty of it - they all feel different so you can never stop buying more guitars

As Mertay says, these sustainers have 3 modes. It can sustain the note, feedback a harmonic, or blend the two. I have a Sustainiac, but it works the same as the sustainer on this Strat.

FWIW, it's probably not fair to evaluate this Strat as you would most models. I'm sure Ed designed it primarily for creating atmospheric sounds.

If you didn't mind the neck on the Hell Raiser, then the strat neck should be mostly ok for comfort. The Hellraiser necks are a bit on the thick side imho, so a start neck won't be too much of a drastic change. Some folks find the Hellraiser neck to be plenty thin, and many folks say the same on strat necks. It really comes down to how your hands feel when playing the instrument. Sometimes it not possible to get the instrument in hand before buying. But that's what we are here for
Todd

Ok got it. But is it correct that the infinite sustain is only available for the harmonic feedback?

No, when it sustains, it sustains infinitely, regardless of the pitch mode. You have the mode choice to control the pitch it sustains: the original pitch, a high feedback pitch or a pitch in-between those two. The original pitch mode is like using an e-bow. The high pitch mode is like standing next to a loud amp.

mm ok. My impression is that even with an e-bow the low end dissapears when you sustain the note. But it's been a while since I played with it, I should dig it up again!

Similar observations on my side. E-bow is generally much less comfortable in use....

I can't remember if I played specifically a hellraiser but I am familiar with schecters. As mentioned this guitar had maybe the thickest neck I ever played, if Fender neck type spec.s have some subjectivity in thickness feel I'd imagine a thicker feeling one. The guitar itself is pretty heavy too so tone and feel-wise not really has typical Fender character, only the looks.

The guitars owner also had an e-bow and I never liked using it, so yeah using this guitar for such effects is way more usable and comfortable.

The sustainer is just as comfortable as playing a guitar normally. I didn't mean you have to hold a device in your hand like an ebow. It simply sustains the note. This video contains a demo of a sustainiac:

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=59293