Can You Cheat in Guitar Playing ?
I saw some comments on Youtube aimed at a guy who was using a hairband or some similar device to mute the strings. This is quite a common approach taken by people who use a lot of tapping in their playing. It's mainly for licks that span many strings and tend to produce a lot of unwanted and unavoidable noise caused by vibrations when tapping from nowhere or hammering on from nowhere. And guitar legend Greg Howe uses this as tapping is a major feature of his style.
But many people saw this as somehow 'cheating.'
I don't agree with this and I'll tell you why.
First of all, this method of muting is generally only used for tapping licks that go beyond the typical triad based EVH / Randy Rhoads phrases. The type of tapping licks used by Howe and many others does require a degree of muting that can not be provided by the hands. If one were using a hairband to mute the strings just for general 'easy' tapping then maybe the people crying 'cheat' might have a point but in these types of cases, it's a genuine asset and not a crutch for lazy technique. And by the way, did I say... Greg Howe !
My second point here is more generalised and covers any area of playing a musical instrument. I think that anything that helps one achieve the sound that they are aiming for is surely a good thing. When you look at the bigger picture, what are we all doing with these planks of wood, these drums, these synths, whatever your instrument of choice ? We're creating sound. In my opinion (and it is only an opinion) SOUND is the key word here.
Unless your audience only consists of music students / other musicians who are analysing your work for various reasons, then the majority of your audience don't hear techniques. They don't hear hand positions. They don't hear facial expressions. They don't hear the colour of your guitar. Or the shape. They only hear sound. The only thing that truly matters is how that collection of sound makes that person feel.
When you consider that the end result of all we do is sound, does it matter how we achieve that sound ? Surely, any ingredient that goes into that sound is allowed ? Or are some things allowed and other things not allowed ?
I can't find the quote but I will always remember EVH stating that his approach on the guitar was a process of making things easier for him to play. That influenced a lot of the triad based chord shapes that he used. They were easier to move around, you see. Surely our path is to make the instrument do for us what we want it to. Sometimes the path needed actually is the path of least resistance.
But this is all just opinion, as said before. So, what if the guys leaving the Youtube comments saying 'cheat' are true ? If using something to make your guitar life easier is a cheat then shall we look at everything else that we use to create our sound ?
Distortion is cheating, surely ? Using an amp ? Altering an electrical signal in any way is not the same as what that unplugged guitar sounds like is it ? And what about guitar picks ? Throw them away, you cheater !
So where do we draw the line ? I've thrown my cards on the table so let's have some discussion about this ! Tell me I'm wrong. Is there something I've missed ? Are we all cheaters ??
End of the day the idea is to make music. Sure playing something with crazy good tech and that is unbelievably hard is impressive but still its not required to make amazing music. The funny thing about the people that probably say its "cheating" are probably miles away from being able to perform the feat themselves.
Some could say using light gauge strings is cheating or double tracking or active pickups, or drop D tuning, or any other alternative tuning. End of the day everything is just a tool to make music with and any tradesmen that avoids not using a tool is a lousy tradesman.
All in all, I'll cheat nonstop if its to get the music thats in my head out into the real world. The only place I draw the line is miming.
I agree with the above post.
For me, cheating sort of assumes it's a contest of some sort. Which in my opinion generally music isn't. I guess there's nothing wrong with having a music technique contest of some sort, in which case I suppose you could make an argument that one thing or another is cheating, but when you're just trying to make music then saying something is cheating makes no sense to me.
Brilliant points from you both. I agree wholeheartedly with it all.
I'm agree with all of you. Bottom line it's to make music.
I don't understand why people don't pay attention to listen music and they made a hobby to judge players. Why they think if a guy use a hairband to mute strings it's cheating? Just because that hairband are visible? But how about famous guitarists which cuts all noises in a studio when record an album. This is a cheating or it isn't because people don't see that?
I personally think that all these (distortion, hairband, light gauge strings, etc) and all the things you use to make music are called evolution.
Well, as I"m always saying "GUITAR PLAYING ISN"T A CARD GAME, SO YOU CAN"T REALLY CHEAT". But folks do use various aids and such to get where they are trying to go which is all fine and dandy IMHO.
I work continuously on my muting technique for example, as I play 7 and 8 string guitars which are a huge pain in the neck to keep muted. I notice many players using "FRET WRAPS" to help deaden some of the low ring of the strings. Are fret wraps cheating? Well, again, not a card game. Whatever folks need to help them play and express themselves seems ok to me
I'd draw the line and using GUITAR PRO for a composition and then shooting a video acting like your playing something your not. Like that video I posted in the other thread with LUCAS MANN denigrating himself. Very sad.
Like really if you were gonna fake it why use guitar pro. I would of played it 1/2 tempo then speed it up. there are programs that keep the right pitch when you stretch or shrink the time.
Rule 1 of fake guitar
If your ganna fake it at meast make the tone sound good
Rule 2 of fake guitar
people will always notice, disable comments on you tube
Rule 3 of fake guitar
No profits because you didn't play it and lots alot of respect
There's no such thing as cheating in guitar playing unless someone else is playing and you dance around telling people you played it Let's take another example - Nuno's intro to 'He man woman hater' - he played the Flight of the bumblebee with a delay trick - is that cheating?
Agreed! Not cheating And he didn't use guitar pro!
See guys - in music, there's no cheating Ah, there would be cheating when you go on a TV show and you playback. That's one of the most shameful things I have been forced to do, 2 times or maybe 3 in my entire lifetime so far. TV shows don't usually have live playing possibilities all the time and in order to get artists on the set, they want them to playback.
One time, I stuck the end of the guitar cable in my back pocket I mean the end that should go into the amp, as a sign of protest - the organizers were too dumb to understand and they were happy about the way I looked
How about you guys - any nice 'shame' stories?
I don't mind if the guy doing the performing is the one who actually played the track as long as they are not passing it off as "live". If it's a music video for example, or even a youtube video made by a musician/band to promote their work, seems fine to me It's flat out faking it that strikes me as offensive. So many folks work so darn hard to play and then here comes lucas mann.
Lucas mann is the guy in the video from the band Rings of Saturn that I Posted above. He's faking playing and instead using guitar pro in this vid and it's painfully obvious what he is doing. VEry sad and very lame.
So the only person who can cheat and does, is Lucas
Word CHEATING is maybe not proper by IMHO the case is a bit more twisted to give one and only, right answer.
Of course time to time I'm a victim of mentioned comments. One of best ever I remember made me laught for weeks
"Nice solo but next time play it with no wah wah - it hides the mistakes. I have a friend player who told me he always turns on the wah when He's not sure he can play somethings precicely"
Wah, Distortion, hairband are just a tools but very often also an excuse
I always try to ask my students to give themsels a lot of additional question like
1. Hairband - do I really have to use it?...is it possible to learn to do things without that tool? Try to practice a lot. If You find it's impossible - then use it. Don't try to make things easy way if You feel it's possible to reach by practicing. It's not the mark of developement
2. High Distortion - Do I play with it because I'm not able to play hard enough to get satisfying tone with lower distortion? Does that solo need high distortion because of other reasons than sustain, harmonics etc? Am I able to play that on acoustic guitar?
3. Wah wah? - Is no excuse Wah wah is just a....wah wah
It's all about being self demanding for yourself - that helps to reach some goals and helps You to become a bettr guitarist.
I never ban people for using any of mentioned but unfortunately some Young players with no instructor care can easily misunderstand the purpose of using those and stop their own developement using those as an excuse.
Good points Ben
I guess when you look at it from the point of learning there is a diffrent perspective. You should always try and practice in a way that trys and makes you play with the best tech.
I think that making music should be out ultimate goal and how we do it should only be a minor concern
What's the most unusual/unconventional manner of playing you guys have tried and what results did it yield?
What about Jonny Cash's trick on putting a bit of paper in the strings
That same idea came up earlier Some folks use fret wraps to help out when their muting needs a bit of assistance or other various reasons. Was generally not counted as cheating Whatever works to help you play what you are trying to play is probably pretty ok at least til you can play without whatever it happens to be I'd guess.
The line I drew in the sand was using guitar pro and acting like you were playing it yourself
na it wasn't to mute strings. it was to make a snare sound
Still not cheating but interesting none the less
For whatever reason I agree not cheating.
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