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Apr 26 2017, 11:40 PM
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Richard Spencer claims credit for coining the term "alt right" in around 2010 as the name for his on-line journal.
This post has been edited by klasaine: Apr 26 2017, 11:41 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Apr 27 2017, 02:05 AM
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It was his housekeeper. Maybe she was documented. I don't know. Rush Limbaugh was up on charges for getting 4000 prescription pain killers ILLEGALLY in four months time!!!
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rush-limbaugh-...n-drug-charges/ All this after decrying "DRUG USE" as being so awful and bad. The man is a huge hypocrite. Hows that for an example  Here is the court affidavitfor the search warrant that led to the drug find! He was using his house keeper to buy various narcotics for him on the street!!! http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/warrants...drug-use?page=0 All of this after he constantly comes down on anyone taking drugs and how bad drugs are in general. Mostly, he blames cartels and Mexicans. All the while having his maid go out and get him narcotics on the street. Character assassination? no need, he did it to himself. Utter hypocrite. I'm just talking about Rush here, so let's try to stay focused. Mr, right wing, anti drug, family values, having his maid go out to score for him. Before we start with all the false equivaliency, let's just admit this guy is a hypocrite wind bag. There's no other conclusion to be drawn IMHO. So there's Rush Limbaugh for ya. ------ Steve Banon and the ALT RIGHT If the previous definition didn't work, how about this one. BANNON HAS EMBRACED THE ALT RIGHT, A LOOSE NETWORK OF WHITE NATIONALISTS AND ANTI-SEMITES. The alt right is a loose network of individuals and groups that promote white identity and reject mainstream conservatism in favor of politics that embrace implicit or explicit racism, anti-Semitism and white supremacy. Often by leveraging social media and the Internet, alt right adherents express opposition to multiculturalism, immigration and often claim that there is a Jewish conspiracy to advocate for “white genocide.” Bannon “proudly” told a reporter at the 2016 Republican National Convention “we’re the platform for the alt right.” For reference https://www.adl.org/education/resources/bac...-things-to-know There's the "ALT RIGHT" for ya! ----------- DEFINITION OF "FAR RIGHT" no problem, here ya go. Let's just go with something simple. Far-right politics are right-wing politics further on the right of the left-right spectrum than the standard political right. Far-right politics often involve a focus on tradition, real or imagined, as opposed to policies and customs that are regarded as reflective of modernism. Many far-right ideologies have a disregard or a disdain for egalitarianism, even if they do not always express overt support for social hierarchy, elements of social conservatism and opposition to most forms of liberalism and socialism. Right-wing populism, a political ideology often combines laissez-faire, nationalism, ethnocentrism and anti-elitism is often described as far-right. Right-wing populism often involves appeals to "common man" and opposition to immigration. The term is also used to describe ideologies including Nazism, neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature extreme nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist, or reactionary views, which can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the nation, state or ultraconservative traditional social institutions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics There's that then. Each point expressed and supported with links. Feel free to research further and feel free to COMPLETELY DISAGREE! it doesn't matter at all. It's just a forum guys. Think/Say, whatever comes to mind.Personally, more and more I find myself drawn to the PIRATE PARTY which is very small here but much larger in Europe. Todd SIGNING OFF, LETTING THE OTHER SIDE HAVE THE LAST WORD ENJOY THE HECK OUT OF IT GUYS!! QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Apr 26 2017, 07:32 AM)  never brought forth your example as why, just assassinated character to try to end the argument . If rich is trying to understand what you view as alt' right , would not an example just clear things up ?
I'm glad no one on the left ever got hooked on prescription drugs . I thought he talked multiple doctors into overlapping prescriptions so I would like to see your " evidence " that he used an illegal worker This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Apr 27 2017, 02:41 AM |
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Apr 27 2017, 05:47 AM
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QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Apr 26 2017, 04:05 PM) so do we get to start discussing fascism or better yet anti-fa Not today  but it was mentioned that 'alt right' is a left coined term. It isn't.
This post has been edited by klasaine: Apr 27 2017, 02:05 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Apr 27 2017, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Apr 26 2017, 05:05 PM) It was his housekeeper. Maybe she was documented. I don't know. Rush Limbaugh was up on charges for getting 4000 prescription pain killers ILLEGALLY in four months time!!! http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rush-limbaugh-...n-drug-charges/ All this after decrying "DRUG USE" as being so awful and bad. The man is a huge hypocrite. Hows that for an example Here is the court affidavitfor the search warrant that led to the drug find! He was using his house keeper to buy various narcotics for him on the street!!! http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/warrants...drug-use?page=0 All of this after he constantly comes down on anyone taking drugs and how bad drugs are in general. Mostly, he blames cartels and Mexicans. All the while having his maid go out and get him narcotics on the street. Character assassination? no need, he did it to himself. Utter hypocrite. I'm just talking about Rush here, so let's try to stay focused. Mr, right wing, anti drug, family values, having his maid go out to score for him. Before we start with all the false equivaliency, let's just admit this guy is a hypocrite wind bag. There's no other conclusion to be drawn IMHO. So there's Rush Limbaugh for ya. ------ Steve Banon and the ALT RIGHT If the previous definition didn't work, how about this one. BANNON HAS EMBRACED THE ALT RIGHT, A LOOSE NETWORK OF WHITE NATIONALISTS AND ANTI-SEMITES. The alt right is a loose network of individuals and groups that promote white identity and reject mainstream conservatism in favor of politics that embrace implicit or explicit racism, anti-Semitism and white supremacy. Often by leveraging social media and the Internet, alt right adherents express opposition to multiculturalism, immigration and often claim that there is a Jewish conspiracy to advocate for “white genocide.” Bannon “proudly” told a reporter at the 2016 Republican National Convention “we’re the platform for the alt right.” For reference https://www.adl.org/education/resources/bac...-things-to-know There's the "ALT RIGHT" for ya! ----------- DEFINITION OF "FAR RIGHT" no problem, here ya go. Let's just go with something simple. Far-right politics are right-wing politics further on the right of the left-right spectrum than the standard political right. Far-right politics often involve a focus on tradition, real or imagined, as opposed to policies and customs that are regarded as reflective of modernism. Many far-right ideologies have a disregard or a disdain for egalitarianism, even if they do not always express overt support for social hierarchy, elements of social conservatism and opposition to most forms of liberalism and socialism. Right-wing populism, a political ideology often combines laissez-faire, nationalism, ethnocentrism and anti-elitism is often described as far-right. Right-wing populism often involves appeals to "common man" and opposition to immigration. The term is also used to describe ideologies including Nazism, neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature extreme nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist, or reactionary views, which can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the nation, state or ultraconservative traditional social institutions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics There's that then. Each point expressed and supported with links. Feel free to research further and feel free to COMPLETELY DISAGREE! it doesn't matter at all. It's just a forum guys. Think/Say, whatever comes to mind.Personally, more and more I find myself drawn to the PIRATE PARTY which is very small here but much larger in Europe. Todd SIGNING OFF, LETTING THE OTHER SIDE HAVE THE LAST WORD ENJOY THE HECK OUT OF IT GUYS!! So you still haven't told me anything that Rush has said or done for that matter that supposedly makes him faaaar right, or how Gorsuch is a hyper conservative. Lots of people get addicted to pain medication after surgery but that doesn't make them faaaar right now does it? And You describe Bannon and the alt right together and give me an uncorroborated report from a Mother Jones reporter that is supposed to confirm that Bannon is of the alt right. C'mon Man! Ken has informed me where the term alt right came from. Thanks for that, I had no idea. But I see how some folks have run with the term and broadened it to include pretty much anyone who is conservative. So now I wonder how many folks consider themselves to be in the alt right in this country. Maybe 10 or 20k out of 320 million or so, if it is even that many which I doubt it is. I would be surprised if the actual member count of white nationalists groups in this country reaches 5 digits. What's a pirate party? Anarchists? This post has been edited by AK Rich: Apr 27 2017, 05:10 PM |
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Apr 27 2017, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (AK Rich @ Apr 27 2017, 07:31 AM) I would be surprised if the actual member count of white nationalists groups in this country reaches 5 digits. Interestingly, I can not find any hard numbers. And I too believe the number to be relatively low. White Nationalists scare me about as much as ISIS scares me - which is very little. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Jul 2 2017, 10:47 PM
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closing this discussion, as it feels quite exhausted by now.
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