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Jan 30 2017, 02:30 PM
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just as a quick reference , most of these problems in the middle east are a direct result of Clinton and Obama policies Failures , Where was your outrage then ?
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Jan 30 2017, 06:26 PM |
just as a quick reference , most of these problems in the middle east are a direct result of Clinton and Obama policies Failures , Where was your outrage then ? The Reagan administration sowed the initial seeds. We fought a proxy war with the then 'Soviet Union' in Afghanistan throughout most of 80s. *Rambo III for you Stallone fans When the Soviets left so did we. We and the Soviets didn't even give them the normal aid package for hospitals and schools. We blew the shit out of their country and then we just split. But we had now armed and trained - over 9 years - what then became the Mujaheddin/Taliban which also eventually provided a base for Bin Laden's activities. This is a pretty straightforward account ... https://history.state.gov/milestones/1977-1...ion-afghanistan This post has been edited by klasaine: Jan 30 2017, 06:36 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Jan 31 2017, 12:07 AM
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The Reagan administration sowed the initial seeds. We fought a proxy war with the then 'Soviet Union' in Afghanistan throughout most of 80s. *Rambo III for you Stallone fans When the Soviets left so did we. We and the Soviets didn't even give them the normal aid package for hospitals and schools. We blew the shit out of their country and then we just split. But we had now armed and trained - over 9 years - what then became the Mujaheddin/Taliban which also eventually provided a base for Bin Laden's activities. This is a pretty straightforward account ... https://history.state.gov/milestones/1977-1...ion-afghanistan I agree , But Clinton\ Obama really screwed the pouch as far the logistical nightmares of the Refugees , for not only our country , but Europe as a whole Bannon is calling a lot of the shots. The Muslim ban was a bone to throw to his followers, most of whom welcomed it. Bannon and Trump lay out strategies to channel the anger, frustration, hostility of a portion of our population towards those who oppose him and those who are most vulnerable and can't defend themselves. Have you ever read "Inside the Third Reich" by Adolf Speer? It is a good read, to understand how the mindset of the current American administration. Bannon is what Martin Bormann was to Hitler. Trump and his propaganda apparatus work in the same fashion. Bannon has a laid out plan, he is really more dangerous that Trump is, Trump would just screw everything up, Bannon is more and more directing him like a trained monkey. Bannon is as evil as Satan, but he is also as skilled as Satan, the trick is to control Trump without Trump even knowing he is being controlled. i.e. the convenient idiot paradigm. The next card will be the Supreme Court nominee. They are going to nominate the most extreme Conservative they can come up with, someone that the Democrats cannot possibly allow to be confirmed. They don't care about the nominee. they want a Senate fight, they want to try and persuade the Republicans to end the 180 year filibuster rule that requires 60 votes to get a judge confirmed. If they can get the Republicans to gut the filibuster, they will have succeeded in taking down two more major checks and balances, pillars of our democracy, the filibuster, and following that with the ability to appoint judges that will rubber stamp everything they do. We are in grave danger, I don't think most people are fully aware what of what a perilous situation we are in today. They may succeed. We are on the road to having a President with Putin like control, and one that will be able to maintain control by systematic disenfranchisement of opposition voters, with courts approving the imposed voter restrictions. You could be right , You might be wrong , are you level headed enough to judge correctly ( Give it some time ) |
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Jan 31 2017, 12:13 AM |
I would put George W. into that mix too.
Our policy in the Middle East has been a disaster for a long time and even as a Jew, I have say that it's really the Israel/Palestinian conflict - and the fact no other Arab countries will take on any burden or responsibility - that has done the most harm. Until that gets worked out there's really not much that any other country can do to ease the tension. Although we certainly can inflame it. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jan 31 2017, 12:20 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Jan 31 2017, 02:51 AM |
The "Ban" is simply unconstitutional. No matter how you slice it. So much so, that folks at DOJ are refusing to enforce it. I heard trump say something about a measure like this being able to stop 911. Hmm. Most of those folks were from Saudi Arabia, and they are not on the BANNED country list. Also, no country with a TRUMP hotel made the banned list. How handy
Best part, this is only impacting folks with papers. Folks who have gone about things the right way. Including folks like Translators from Iraq who risked their lives to help our troops. It's just flat out wrong and ineffective, but it does play to "The Base" and Trump is a master manipulator to be sure. It also served as a smoke screen while he put Bannon at the head of the National Security counsel. A man with NO political experience, who runs an "Alt Right" blog. I honestly see the rise of the "Alt Left" as a sociological response to all of this. It's just a matter of time IMHO. ----- For reference (just in case anyone isn't sure, here is the legal angle on why the "Ban" and favoring Christians even slightly, is unconstitutional and beyond any branch of govts power, complete with case law. I was pre-law as an undergrad, but went to film school instead of Law School, thank goodness) The Establishment Clause forbids the government from making any law “respecting an establishment of religion.” As the Supreme Court explained in 1982’s Larson v. Valente, “the clearest command of the Establishment Clause is that one religious denomination cannot be officially preferred over another.” This constitutional requirement, the court noted, is “inextricably connected with the continuing vitality of the Free Exercise Clause,” guaranteeing religious liberty for all by barring “favoritism among sects.” The court has also declared that the government may not “aid or oppose any religion. This prohibition is absolute.” This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Jan 31 2017, 03:15 AM |
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Jan 31 2017, 04:07 AM |
The "Ban" is simply unconstitutional. No matter how you slice it. So much so, that folks at DOJ are refusing to enforce it. I heard trump say something about a measure like this being able to stop 911. Hmm. Most of those folks were from Saudi Arabia, and they are not on the BANNED country list. Also, no country with a TRUMP hotel made the banned list. How handy Best part, this is only impacting folks with papers. Folks who have gone about things the right way. Including folks like Translators from Iraq who risked their lives to help our troops. It's just flat out wrong and ineffective, but it does play to "The Base" and Trump is a master manipulator to be sure. It also served as a smoke screen while he put Bannon at the head of the National Security counsel. A man with NO political experience, who runs an "Alt Right" blog. I honestly see the rise of the "Alt Left" as a sociological response to all of this. It's just a matter of time IMHO. ----- For reference (just in case anyone isn't sure, here is the legal angle on why the "Ban" and favoring Christians even slightly, is unconstitutional and beyond any branch of govts power, complete with case law. I was pre-law as an undergrad, but went to film school instead of Law School, thank goodness) The Establishment Clause forbids the government from making any law “respecting an establishment of religion.” As the Supreme Court explained in 1982’s Larson v. Valente, “the clearest command of the Establishment Clause is that one religious denomination cannot be officially preferred over another.” This constitutional requirement, the court noted, is “inextricably connected with the continuing vitality of the Free Exercise Clause,” guaranteeing religious liberty for all by barring “favoritism among sects.” The court has also declared that the government may not “aid or oppose any religion. This prohibition is absolute.” The EO (Not a law)( does not favor any one religious group. It favors ANY persecuted minority religious group which can be, and in fact ARE religious groups OTHER than Christian AS WELL AS Christian. if they are a persecuted minority religious group in one of the given countries. And then there is this: https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTM...0-0-0-2364.html (f) Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non immigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/immi...perfectly-legal http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4443...s-critics-wrong http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/201...-legal-n2278378 PS: Acting Attorney General Sally Yates decision to not enforce Trumps EO was a political decision, NOT a legal decision, which is why she was fired for dereliction of duty. This post has been edited by AK Rich: Jan 31 2017, 06:02 PM |
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Feb 1 2017, 03:12 AM |
Sadly, the "Law" is ultimately what the Supreme Court says it is. Until they change it of course There are many examples of "Self Inflicted Wounds" from the Judiciary, (Brown V.S. Board of Education Comes to mind). Being able to "Stack the deck" with anti abortion folks, etc. could have serious consequences on existing case law such as ROE V.S. WADE among others.
The only really good news is that the system can self repair, even if it takes decades. The court hands down a "Precedent", then a decision comes along that reinterprets said precedent and the law moves along. That is the brilliant thing about our system of Governance IMHO, it is made to be flexible, to reflect the will of the people, even as who the "People" are goes through serious changes over time. (E.G. The Demographic shift we keep talking about). So in the end, it will probably end up where your average, working class, Hispanic/Catholic, family wants it to be, as they are the fastest growing/most cohesive voting block. It will start with California and work it's way East, as with all things in the U.S. economic/political that involve change "So goes California, so Goes America" as they say. To draw a historical parallel, (not involving WWII) I really think we are in our akhenaten (Heretic Pharaoh) phase just now. After the king, gives rise to a new king, I think the old temples (laws) will be burned. Todd I hope that your perspective is correct. Maybe I am overly pessimistic, but I have seen America accept things now that just a year or two ago they would never have accepted. This is how a society transforms into an abomination, with much or most of the public not even aware that is happening.
Maybe the WWII example is overused, but the Japanese and German people were not bad people prior to that, no worse than anyone else for sure. But piece by piece, step by step the bought into it, and it lead to their destruction. Trump, Bannon have a long term strategy, to change our society, our culture, and they will chip away at it. When the latest assault gains public acceptance, and then move on to the next assault. The disenfranchisement efforts will be significant. They will work to make it hard for much of the Black population to vote. It is already difficult, the average wait time to vote for a Black person is twice that of a White person. And the stringent voter I.D. requirements impact the poor. Blacks have incomes on average 40% lower than Whites. And they will move to suppress Hispanic voting by denying them citizenship. I mentioned that Bannon's news service has stated that the "Citizenship Clause" of the 14th amendment only applies for children born to people here LEGALLY. If Trump and Bannon are able to stack the courts they may well have a Supreme Court that concurs, and all those new votes you are talking about in the future vanish in a stroke. I know two teen age kids who have been here all their lives, never have even been to Mexico. They would find out that they are no longer citizens, and might even be deported to a country they have never even been in. The Washington Post has an article today, Trump has a plan to weed out and deport immigrants here who are legally here and on public support. Sadly, he may succeed, I sense that at first when they do something shocking there is a backlash. But Bannon is a master of psychology/propaganda, he knows what he is doing, and he knows how to knock down a pillar of our Democracy, absorbing the acceptable 5 or 6% drop in the approval rating, and then initiate other distractions to bring that approval rating up within a week or two, and move on to taking down another pillar. This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Feb 1 2017, 03:15 AM |
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Feb 1 2017, 03:33 AM |
One of the great things about history, besides the fact that it repeats itself, is that it can surprise the shit out of you.
*OK, that's two things. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Feb 7 2017, 06:50 PM |
The next card will be the Supreme Court nominee. They are going to nominate the most extreme Conservative they can come up with, someone that the Democrats cannot possibly allow to be confirmed. They don't care about the nominee. they want a Senate fight, they want to try and persuade the Republicans to end the 180 year filibuster rule that requires 60 votes to get a judge confirmed. If they can get the Republicans to gut the filibuster, they will have succeeded in taking down two more major checks and balances, pillars of our democracy, the filibuster, and following that with the ability to appoint judges that will rubber stamp everything they do. We are in grave danger, I don't think most people are fully aware what of what a perilous situation we are in today. They may succeed. We are on the road to having a President with Putin like control, and one that will be able to maintain control by systematic disenfranchisement of opposition voters, with courts approving the imposed voter restrictions. What comes around, goes around. IF, it is needed. "God bless Harry Reid. It’s because of him that Gorsuch is guaranteed elevation to the court. In 2013, as Senate majority leader, Reid blew up the joint. He abolished the filibuster for federal appointments both executive (such as Cabinet) and judicial, for all district and circuit court judgeships (excluding only the Supreme Court). Thus unencumbered, the Democratic-controlled Senate packed the lower courts with Obama nominees." "Reid was warned that the day would come when Republicans would be in the majority and would exploit the new rules to equal and opposite effect. That day is here." "The result is striking. Trump’s Cabinet appointments are essentially unstoppable because Republicans need only 51 votes and they have 52. They have no need to reach 60, the number required to overcome a filibuster. Democrats are powerless to stop anyone on their own." "And equally powerless to stop Gorsuch. But isn’t the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees still standing? Yes, but if the Democrats dare try it, everyone knows that Majority Leader McConnell will do exactly what Reid did and invoke the nuclear option — filibuster abolition — for the Supreme Court, too." "Reid never fully appreciated the magnitude of his crime against the Senate. As I wrote at the time, the offense was not abolishing the filibuster — you can argue that issue either way — but that he did it by simple majority. In a serious body, a serious rule change requires a serious supermajority. (Amending the U.S. Constitution, for example, requires two-thirds of both houses plus three-quarters of all the states.) Otherwise you have rendered the place lawless. If in any given session you can summon up the day’s majority to change the institution’s fundamental rules, there are no rules." Did you have concerns then? If not. why should I have concerns now? https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/tha...m=.dbda3d5dcf36 This post has been edited by AK Rich: Feb 7 2017, 07:44 PM |
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