Not Guitar Related: No Petrol Cars Uk 2030? |
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May 26 2021, 11:35 PM
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my In-laws build custom rods, I can't even imagine going down the road without the roar of these engines
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May 27 2021, 12:21 AM
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WOW!!!! That is staggering. So it costs the price of the car, plus another half the cost of the car to buy a new car? Egad!!! I thought we had some high taxes. At least it's not quite as bad for cheaper cars.
QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ May 25 2021, 03:02 PM)  You probably won't believe this but the registration tax for a purchase of a new vehicle (car) here in Denmark is 150%, only recently lowered from 180%. At least for cars over €26000 or so. "The registration tax applied to new cars in Denmark is value-based and amounts to 85% of the car's taxable value up to DKK 197,700 (€26,500), and 150% for the value above, according to the ACEA 2020 Tax Guide. The parties have agreed that an extra tier will be introduced, whereby a lower 25% tax rate will be applied to the car’s value up to DKK 65,000 in 2021. The 85% tax rate will then be applied up to the slightly higher value of DKK 202,200 in 2021, with the 150% rate above that level." https://www.thelocal.dk/20151120/whats-the-...gistration-tax/ Sadly, it's something we will all have to get used to at some point. QUOTE (jstcrsn @ May 26 2021, 06:35 PM) my In-laws build custom rods, I can't even imagine going down the road without the roar of these engines I know how big motorsport is in the UK and I can't see it just switching over to battery powered race cars to be honest. "Petrol Head" culture is deeply embedded, as it is here. The entire world will be watching to see how this rolls out. QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 25 2021, 03:04 PM) I really don't think there will be an industry for small manufacturers of batteries, they will be mass-produced oem supplied and replaced. There wouldn't be any way that we could be world leaders as we are . I'm pretty sure internal combustion engines will be providing us with an income for a long time yet. It's a HUGE goal to set to be sure. It's going to be very tough to meet that deadline. Maybe they will have to push it back at some point. As of now, it's the law and it's on the books. It's going to be a template for the rest of the world as they roll out electric cars. I do hope it serves to support the economy and not to destroy it. QUOTE (liveOASISforever @ May 26 2021, 01:51 PM) ..pulling out on them because they dont hear them. Seen it already in big cities like London. |
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May 28 2021, 10:56 PM
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Thats very clever indeed! One more bit of news President Biden has a plan to get rid of ALL FOSSIL FUEL IN THE ELECTRIC GRID BY 2035! This would be a HUGE change and would require enormous amounts of new construction. It would mean a lot of jobs but also a lot less money for big oil companies. It's controversial but I hope it works out
 https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/...n-free-by-2035/ QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ May 26 2021, 07:26 PM) Generally the public transportation is very good here in Denmark, from busses to metro to trains. And in shorter distances (like up to 5-6 miles a lot of people just ride bicycles, some even further distances). Of course we still have many people riding cars, don't get me wrong. Then the prices for gas. A gallon is about 5,8 USD here, I believe. I think that's fairly higher than in the US too, right? EDIT: Also electrical battery powered bicycles with assisting motors are becoming a popular thing here too. They assist you, but you still have to use the pedals, but the motor helps you ride faster with less resistance, so it's good for longer distances. They're a bit expensive though. I have one too, which looks like this:  The motor is in the crank and the battery is in the frame. |
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May 28 2021, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ May 28 2021, 12:56 PM) Thats very clever indeed! One more bit of news President Biden has a plan to get rid of ALL FOSSIL FUEL IN THE ELECTRIC GRID BY 2035! This would be a HUGE change and would require enormous amounts of new construction. It would mean a lot of jobs but also a lot less money for big oil companies. It's controversial but I hope it works out https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/...n-free-by-2035/ And monkeys might fly out of my butt. That is a pipe dream without some kind of new energy source or going fully nuclear. Wind and solar simply cannot substitute fossil fuels in generating power, period, full stop, end of story and that's all she wrote. And do you know how many acres of wind or solar farms it takes to equal what one coal fired plant can produce? It's not even remotely close to equal. Then there is the problem with disposing of old solar panels which are toxic waste. This post has been edited by AK Rich: May 28 2021, 11:25 PM |
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May 29 2021, 03:49 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ May 29 2021, 02:02 AM) The good news is that TESLA is doing large battery backups of solar grids in Australia and soon in the states. So that the next time we have one of those storms in texas, the battery backups will come online and prevent the same kind of tragedy. It's a battery backup for a solar farm. They are already using it full stop end of story. It scales to the Terawatt/Hr range. So yeah, it's already a viable system. We are just slow on the uptake. BTW the law is already on the books in England. They are going to beat us to the punch by quite a bit. lets not forget about by products of solar feilds =Global Warming on steroids https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25...RDS-fly-it.html https://phys.org/news/2016-11-solar-island-...cale-power.html |
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May 30 2021, 05:14 AM
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If we start looking to the daily mail for scientific advice we are already doomed
While a few birds will get scorched, it hardly outweighs the benfits. Also the "heat effect" is limited to about 100 yards around the solar farm so not a big deal. Just more hype. Here is a quote from your article.the added heat dissipates quickly and can't be measured 100 feet away from the power plants. QUOTE (jstcrsn @ May 28 2021, 10:49 PM) lets not forget about by products of solar feilds =Global Warming on steroids
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25...RDS-fly-it.html https://phys.org/news/2016-11-solar-island-...cale-power.html This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: May 30 2021, 05:17 AM |
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Aug 15 2021, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Aug 15 2021, 06:22 AM) Thought I'd ad this to the thread. There is a NEW COUNTACH!! And it's a HYBRID!! yup. More than 800 horses and it has a battery with a 12 cylinder. As if the 12 cylinder engine wasnt enough Also classic scissor doors. if this is the future of cars im a happy guy I think it would be allowed in the UK as it's a hybrid, i mean after the 2030 ban takes place but i'm not sure.After 2030 you would be able to buy that awesome beast in the UK until 2035, then all hybrib car sales are banned. Going on what we've been chatting about Todd, it might be an idea for manufacturers to have a suitable external soundtrack to match the looks and performance of electric cars,, on performance models there could be a lovely sonorous performance induction and exhaust sound track, on town cars it could be just a normal exhaust sound this would help with pedestrian and cyclist safety too 
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Aug 16 2021, 07:07 AM
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Most petrol heads don't like the piped in sound in the cabin, me included, it's not overpowering and people I;ve had in my car don't really notice it, they don't even notice the exhaust not change when switching to sport mode but petrol heads are a different breed and notice everything
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Aug 16 2021, 08:36 AM
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Piped in Fake sound argument = Modellers vs tube amps
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Aug 16 2021, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Aug 16 2021, 08:36 AM) Piped in Fake sound argument = Modellers vs tube amps Except the piped in sound isn't as good as a modeller
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Aug 16 2021, 07:40 PM
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I haven't found a way to turn mine off yet
 If I'm ticking over in sport mode I get a throbbing sound like a V8 is behind me, I think the pitch of the piped in sound at tickover is very close to the actual engine sound that it gives that effect like when you're running up to the next string and get close, it kinda wobbles, I don't know what it's technically called. Peace QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Aug 16 2021, 06:41 PM) I didn't realize it was such a controversial topic. Some petrol heads feel very strongly about this issue. it seems a minor thing to me but I guess I'm not a full on "petrol head" If I were, evidently I'd be on one side or the other screaming, from the look of it. it seems a small thing though? if one wants it, great, if not, just turn it off right? It can be turned off yes? -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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