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This Will Also Probably Also Sound Stupid, But..... |
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May 30 2012, 12:14 AM |
Hahahaha, I love these topics
Why would anyone stop it? Well because it sounds like thrash if overdone! Let me include a related image: |
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May 30 2012, 08:21 AM |
I think it's note choice as well as speed.
Shredding tends to be about but not exclusively scales, patterns and arpeggios being played very fast, that's what I've glean anyway -------------------- My SoundCloud
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May 30 2012, 06:59 PM |
Hahaha this logic chart is awesome My question is after what speed playing starts to be shredding? I want to have a very quantitative definition of this I asked this question 2 years ago on this forum and i got so much flack for asking, I gave up asking The politically correct answer, therefore, is "a well played note is 100x better than a 100 notes played to fast to hear!" But I'm not politically correct, so here's a few tests in quantifiable terms. People can post their opinion on whether I'm being too lax or too rigid, but here's my feeling. AP'ing 3 notes per string A 3 octave scale - this, I would consider to be the entry point of shred speed in terms of AP'ing. If you can do this at 120 bpm, then you're shredding 3nps https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...xercise-lesson/ Pentatonics - 2 notes per string at 150 BPM, I would consider you to be entry point-ish. https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Killer...kk-Wylde-Style/ And as you know, real shred is not just speed on a single lick or exercise - it's the ability to combine patterns/techniques into something meaningful. Simply sitting on scale or pentatonic pattern is twiddling really fast Anyone wanna chime in and adjust those numbers or give more examples of entry point shredding?! Chris! -------------------- The more I practice, the more I wish I had time to practice!
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May 30 2012, 07:12 PM |
Well said It's fairly broad term in real use and can cover quite a bit of ground but yeah, that first workout is a really good example of three note per string work at good speed. You'll notice he isn't picking every note, but you don't have to Much like the Master Paul Gilbert himself, using palm muted hammer ons/pull offs and picking once or twice per three note set can work just as well. Of course, some folks feel that's "Cheating" which always struck me as odd since playing guitar isn't a Board Game, or Cards, but language is funny like that
So you can be "Shredding" IMHO without picking every note, but you can also be "Shredding" Picking every note. The latter has a bit more of a percussive sound which I'm a big fan of I like palm muted pull offs too though, ala Paul or Eric Johnson. But until your finger strength is such that you can pull that off, you may have to pick every note. But being able to pick every note is itself a noble goal But by no means the only/most important one. Unrepentant Shredder Todd I asked this question 2 years ago on this forum and i got so much flack for asking, I gave up asking The politically correct answer, therefore, is "a well played note is 100x better than a 100 notes played to fast to hear!" But I'm not politically correct, so here's a few tests in quantifiable terms. People can post their opinion on whether I'm being too lax or too rigid, but here's my feeling. AP'ing 3 notes per string A 3 octave scale - this, I would consider to be the entry point of shred speed in terms of AP'ing. If you can do this at 120 bpm, then you're shredding 3nps https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...xercise-lesson/ Pentatonics - 2 notes per string at 150 BPM, I would consider you to be entry point-ish. https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Killer...kk-Wylde-Style/ And as you know, real shred is not just speed on a single lick or exercise - it's the ability to combine patterns/techniques into something meaningful. Simply sitting on scale or pentatonic pattern is twiddling really fast Anyone wanna chime in and adjust those numbers or give more examples of entry point shredding?! Chris! |
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May 30 2012, 09:27 PM
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Hahahaha, I love these topics Why would anyone stop it? Well because it sounds like thrash if overdone! Let me include a related image: Hmmm.... I must not be a shredder, I had to actually look up who Herman Li was: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Li Guess I really need to start listening to something besides those old blues albums Great chart man! Thanks for sharing! -------------------- My Sound Cloud Profile: http://soundcloud.com/casinostrat
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May 31 2012, 10:16 AM |
I'm sold ! Someone should do an 'In the Style of' lesson... |
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May 31 2012, 10:24 AM |
I'm sold ! Someone should do an 'In the Style of' lesson... Hehehe this is good -------------------- |
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May 31 2012, 12:30 PM |
Let's not forget about country shredders check out Rhode Island Shred by Guthrie Govan do you dig mates? Damn, this is restless.. I get tired listening to it -------------------- |
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May 31 2012, 03:53 PM |
Let's not forget about country shredders check out Rhode Island Shred by Guthrie Govan do you dig mates? Country Shred??? What about John 5?? -------------------- My lessons
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