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Joe Satriani speaks about Coldplay lawsuit
A MusicRadar exclusive interview

Joe Bosso, Sun 7 Dec 2008, 9:58 pm UTC


Joe Satriani speaks exclusively to MusicRadar about suing Coldplay

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As previously reported on MusicRadar, Joe Satriani is suing Coldplay, claiming the UK band's Grammy-nominated song Viva La Vida uses one of his melodies.

In court papers filed on 4 December 2008, Satriani's legal team alleges Viva La Vida, the title track of Coldplay's current album, copies "substantial original portions" of his song If I Could Fly.

Satriani's song was included on his 2004 album Is There Love In Space?

Speaking exclusively to MusicRadar on 6 December, Joe Satriani recalls the exact emotion he felt when he first heard Coldplay's Viva La Vida.

"The second I heard, I knew..."
"I felt like a dagger went right through my heart. It hurt so much," Satriani says. "The second I heard it, I knew it was [my own] If I Could Fly."

As it turned out, Satriani wasn't the only one who noticed the similarity between If I Could Fly and Viva La Vida.

"Almost immediately, from the minute their song came out, my e-mail box flooded with people going, 'Have you heard this song by Coldplay? They ripped you off man.' I mean, I couldn't tell you how many e-mails I received.

"Everybody noticed the similarities between the songs. It's pretty obvious." Joe Satriani "Everybody noticed the similarities between the songs. It's pretty obvious. It's as simple as that - when you listen to a song and you say, 'Wow, that's a real rip-off.'"

What makes the situation especially painful for Satriani is that If I Could Fly isn't just any song. It's a composition he'd been laboring over for well over 10 years before he recorded it.

"I started writing it on the Flying In A Blue Dream tour back in 1990. But because of the way I write, sometimes songs take a while, as this one did. In 2003 I started demoing it in earnest. I played it on the acoustic guitar on a demo so I could sing the melody, then I demoed it on electric to get the sound. And the performance turned out to be so spontaneous, so right and so emotional, that it wound up being a keeper."




Joe Satriani is suing Coldplay, alleging Viva La Vida uses his melody from If I Could Fly

Satriani feels "really hurt"
Since If I Could Fly came out in 2004, Satriani has been gratified by the reaction it's received from his fans, many of whom have called it one of his most captivating songs.

"That was the intent all along," he says. "It was a love letter to my wife, Rubina – a simple, direct expression of feeling.

"That's what really hurts about this whole thing. That I spent so long writing the song, thinking about it, loving it, nursing it, and then finally recording it and standing on stages the world over playing it - and then somebody comes along and plays the exact same song and calls it their own."

"Coldplay didn't want to talk about it. They just wanted this whole thing to go away." Joe Satriani
Since it was announced on 4 December 2008 that Satriani is suing Coldplay for alleged plagiarism, seeking a jury trial and "any and all profits" connected to Viva La Vida, his life has been turned upside down.

"This has been the weirdest thing I've ever been involved in," he says. "The media attention has been bizarre and surreal. I really can't explain how I've felt over the past day or two."

"I did everything I could to avoid a court case"
Satriani stresses that his motives are ruled by artistic purity and an overriding sense of right and wrong.

"Everybody's assumes I'm trying to go after these guys in Coldplay, as if I'm doing this with malice," he says "That's the furthest thing from my mind. I'm just doing what I need to do as an artist, to protect what's mine, to protect those feelings I put down in song.

"I did everything I could to avoid a court case with this situation. But Coldplay didn't want to talk about it. They just wanted this whole thing to go away. Maybe they figured this little guitar player guy will leave them alone after a while, I don't know.

"But we're talking about a piece of art that I created, and that's something I feel is important. I think everybody should feel that way."

And now, Satriani's team will ask a jury to decide.

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I felt really hurt reading that lol. What an arse he is. So it is down to him. I knew it would be. What a scum bag.

Wonder if he'll cry in court laugh.gif

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Arse? I would act the same way. Coldplay stole some of Satriani´s feelings and thoughts by rearranging his song. That´s really criminal. mad.gif

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I'm surprised the tool from Coldplay could even play a Satch song...

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QUOTE (Tolek @ Dec 8 2008, 02:54 PM) *
Arse? I would act the same way. Coldplay stole some of Satriani´s feelings and thoughts by rearranging his song. That´s really criminal. mad.gif

I agree with Tolek. I would be ridiculously pissed if someone stole what I worked hard to create... sad.gif

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QUOTE (Tolek @ Dec 8 2008, 07:54 PM) *
Arse? I would act the same way. Coldplay stole some of Satriani´s feelings and thoughts by rearranging his song. That´s really criminal. mad.gif

No Satriani says they did. But he is a lying idiot. I hope he loses and has to pay all court costs. It'd be great. Hopefully he loses his house and life the whinging moron. This really annoys me. I hate people taking others to court over nothing.

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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Dec 8 2008, 02:56 PM) *
No Satriani says they did. But he is a lying idiot. I hope he loses and has to pay all court costs. It'd be great. Hopefully he loses his house and life the whinging moron. This really annoys me. I hate people taking others to court over nothing.

ohmy.gif Satriani is a hero!! He deserves to win on something as clearly plagerized (If thats a word...)
as this...

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That´s not a good approach to other people. :S Never wish other people misfortune.
Imagine somebody stole and sold your guitar. You surely wouldn´t accept this. You would try to get it back with the help of police or your own fist.
Satriani does the same thing by acting juridically. That´s the only legal way to get fairness back.

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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Dec 8 2008, 07:56 PM) *
No Satriani says they did. But he is a lying idiot. I hope he loses and has to pay all court costs. It'd be great. Hopefully he loses his house and life the whinging moron. This really annoys me. I hate people taking others to court over nothing.

Nothing?

...you did hear the songs, right?

I'd do the same in his position- it's a rip-off. I will watch with a smile as coldplay lose their "reputation" because of this case.

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The thing is it isn't. He is hardly going to come out and say it isn't copied is he after kicking up a big fuss.

It's not even remotely similar. He can play his guitar track over a song. WOW. They aren't playing his guitar line.

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I'm with Joe on this one... If someone took one of my creations (even though they're not much to brag about at this time, really...) I would feel violated as well tongue.gif

Allthough, the "It really hurts.. It hurts..." Was a bit over the top to keep repeating..
I hope he win the case smile.gif

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This is all BS, Satch needs to chill out, This whole thng is so stupid, it blows my mind, the melody is slightly similar, but they DID NOT "Rip him off'. Some people...
Edit: the " his life has been turned upside down" line, is just too much. who wrote this crap?

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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Dec 8 2008, 08:01 PM) *
They aren't playing his guitar line.


You're right.





They're singing it.

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QUOTE (DeepRoots @ Dec 8 2008, 08:00 PM) *
Nothing?

...you did hear the songs, right?

I'd do the same in his position- it's a rip-off. I will watch with a smile as coldplay lose their "reputation" because of this case.

I heard them and they don't copy the guitar. And as I've said countless times there aren't many possibilities in music. Just because he can play his guitar part over another song doesn't mean it's copied. They don't play his guitar part. I really hope Satriani loses and I detest Coldplay smile.gif

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QUOTE (DeepRoots @ Dec 8 2008, 03:03 PM) *
You're right.





They're singing it.

That's even worse biggrin.gif

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I see what you mean, guys, but I still have another view. The whole affair is stupid, yes. Who raised the quarrel? Coldplay... by stealing the same chord progression, rhythm, flair and even melody from "If I could fly".

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Joe Satriani is just jealous that Coldplay make millions more than him. It's a shame Satch has to stoop to this level. He should be ashamed.

When is the court case?

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Wouldn´t you be really angry if someone made a lot of money with your ideas? You say that there aren´t many possibilites in music. You are so wrong! biggrin.gif Music exists for as along as the human lives (nearly) and there are so many songs which aren´t similiar. And there are still a lot more styles, chord progressions, chords, rhythms, melodies,... to be played/composed.
Joe Satriani is 52. His life entirely consists of making music. He collected a lot of experience, sweated from hard work. "If I could fly" was written from 1990 until 2004. 14 years... Now, there are Coldplay who take the character of Satriani´s song for few minutes and rearrange it and make millions. smile.gif

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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Dec 8 2008, 08:07 PM) *
When is the court case?

Don't know, but i'm sure that on that day- all the coldplay fans will rejoice, as i'm sure that Satriani won't win.

I may agree with his decision, agree with his case- but he wants a jury...

...a jury that will probably have difficulty telling the difference between the sound of a drum set and a piano.



Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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QUOTE (Tolek @ Dec 8 2008, 08:12 PM) *
Wouldn´t you be really angry if someone made a lot of money with your ideas? You say that there aren´t many possibilites in music. You are so wrong! biggrin.gif Music exists for as along as the human lives (nearly) and there are so many songs which aren´t similiar. And there are still a lot more styles, chord progressions, chords, rhythms, melodies,... to be played/composed.
Joe Satriani is 52. His life entirely consists of making music. He collected a lot of experience, sweated from hard work. "If I could fly" was written from 1990 until 2004. 14 years... Now, there are Coldplay who take the character of Satriani´s song for few minutes and rearrange it and make millions. smile.gif

You're falling for his rubbish. Lets hope the jury don't.

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