Had An Idea, maybe you've tried it |
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Had An Idea, maybe you've tried it |
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Sep 22 2016, 09:09 PM |
I'm going to put my current lesson https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/A_Minor_Blues/ onto my iPod and play it in the car on the way to work and back. Hopefully it will help me really get to know the piece so I can learn it more quickly.
What you reckon? Have any of you tried this? If you have, did it help? I use THIS to convert the videos to MP3, I can only get it to work in Firefox though but it is good. Cheers folks. This post has been edited by Phil66: Sep 22 2016, 09:21 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Sep 23 2016, 12:40 PM |
I have a strange memory system. Example: The other day I received an email and needed to tell a colleague something about one of our components. The part number is 1014xc835. I walked down the workshop saying "1014xc835, 1014xc835 " over and over so I didn't forget it. Halfway there some said "what you doing? " I told them and immediately forgot the number. Two days later, I was in a restaurant with my wife and I suddenly said "1014xc835" and explained to my wife that I couldn't remember it a few seconds after reading an email but can remember it days afterwards.
Maybe this is why I struggle to learn things just during my lesson. This is why I'm thinking of doing this to internalise the piece -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Sep 23 2016, 01:58 PM |
Hi Phil, I think that it's ok that you try this method and see if it works for you. Every person is different so it's a good plan to discover it by yourself.
By the way, Darius comment about attention when listening is very important, as well as Kris's thoughts about getting bored of the lesson. So have both things in mind when listening to the lesson. Ijn your example, you are talking about memorising numbers, here we are talking about making music which is very different. -------------------- My lessons
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Sep 23 2016, 02:07 PM |
Thanks Gab,
I know what you're saying, but I have the same issue remembering the note sequence so I was wondering that if I got to know the piece "inside out" I wouldn't have to think about the phrasing so much, just the execution of it and the note sequence. I was thinking that by internalizing it, it may come to me easier as I have one less thing to remember. Hope this makes sense -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Sep 23 2016, 02:49 PM |
If I have the time, I always listen to stuff I need to (or want to) learn in the car before I sit down to actually 'learn' it.
Usually that type of listening/learning is just so that I know the form or structure of a piece. Like is it a blues form or something else? How many times do you play each part? Is there a key change?, Etc. It's easier for me to learn a solo or a melody if I already understand the motion - harmonic and rhythmic - underneath it. *It's really important for musicians of any level to be able to hear chord changes. Not the exact pitch (unless you have perfect pitch) but just whether the chord is a I or a IV or a iii or a V etc. It's amazing the amount of work you can get done away from your instrument when you can hear basic chord progressions. In fact, that's a great thing to practice while your driving. Try to figure out the chord progressions to songs. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Sep 23 2016, 03:42 PM |
It works for me but I do this only in the day when I receive the new task with the new lesson. But I do this from 2 reasons: 1 - I usually avoid to use tabs for lessons and this thing helps me to keep my ears in a good shape. Also it's cool when I have a new lesson and I pick up my guitar to already know the song. 2 - I like to listen and find the details from lesson by ear before to see them in video. It's like a contest. If I discover more than 80% from details I will give myself a prize, if I discover under my expectations I always have a punishment prepared for me. It's good to mention the fact that I never get bored to listen (or to practice) in an obsessively way, a lesson/song that I like. Of course keep in mind that I will never play a lesson/song which not resonate with me This is why your progress is so dramatic. I also believe it's why you play with 'musicality', as opposed to just displaying technical ability. Being able to hear it in your head gets you inside the music. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Sep 23 2016, 03:52 PM |
Works for me, I have to be able to sing it, to play it especially if there is tricky timing.
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Sep 23 2016, 08:18 PM |
I'd love to be able to work things out by ear but at the moment my ear isn't good. I have an amazing friend, I haven't seen him for a few years though but he'd never heard any Steve Vai, he was at my house, I put "For The Love Of God" on, after a minute he grabbed my guitar off the wall and said start that again, he played each phrase while listening to the next one, right up until the wammy bits start about 1 minute in (He'd only ever played a Les Paul). So he listened to a bit and played it while listening to the next bit and played that while listening to the next bit.
I then put Satriani's "Surfin' With The Alien, he asked if he could borrow it. He called me the following night a played the entire "Surfin With The Alien" track on his Les Paul, the wammy bar bits sounded odd but he played all the notes that Satch plays but obviously without dipping the bar. He's has the most incredible ear and skill for picking up music by ear that I've ever seen. I think he is part of the reason for my impatience -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Sep 24 2016, 12:23 AM |
Even the most novice player can develop an 'ear'.
You just have to do it. Start with something easy. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Sep 25 2016, 10:27 AM |
My ear is better than my technique by a long shot, and that's due to singing from an early age.
Singing the notes as you practice scales and triad/Arpeggios slowly is a good way to connect hearing the note in your head and the note on the fretboard. You can then test yourself by playing a note, singing a fifth or third interval from it and then playing the note to see if you got it right. It's also a good way to improve your singing pitch too, so many people can't sing on pitch correctly because they aren't hearing the note in there hear properly. -------------------- My SoundCloud
Gear Tyler Burning Water 2K Burny RLG90 with BK Emeralds Fender US Tele with BK Piledrivers Epiphone 335 with Suhr Thornbuckers PRS SE Custom 24-08 Ax8 Fessenden SD10 PSG Quilter TT15 |
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Sep 26 2016, 06:57 PM |
I can "sing" the whole of Surfin With The Alien but I can't play it seriously though, I remember note lengths and rhythms but not pitches. I can be using TAB and know if there is an error like an incorrect note but it takes me ages to find the right one
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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