Printable Version of Topic

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 20 2009, 07:23 PM

Hi GMC! This is my new collaboration based on my lesson called "http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Southern_Metal_Solo/".

The idea of this collaboration is to let GMC:ers with different levels explore this style of playing and apply the pentatonic licks learnt before.

You can check the original lesson to learn some easy Southern metal licks, as well as other rocker lessons like "Black Stone Cherry style", "Zakk Wylde Style" and many others where you can find rocker/bluesy licks. There are many lessons like those in my lessons archive.

The backing is a dropped D riff composed with D pentatonic minor scale. So you can use D pentatonic minor and D blues scales for the solo. I repeated the riff twice but feel free to loop the backing if you are very inspired!

DEADLINE: 5th September

ok, let's start rocking!!

Who is in?


 Southern_Metal_Collab_backing.mp3 ( 1.04MB ) : 411

Posted by: TheKeplerConjecture Aug 20 2009, 07:30 PM

Count me in!

Posted by: enforcer Aug 20 2009, 09:36 PM

please count me in! I really missed playing metal

Posted by: Chris Evans Aug 20 2009, 09:43 PM

count me in, I`ll give this one a go

Posted by: jafomatic Aug 21 2009, 12:06 AM

I'm in.

Posted by: leedbreak Aug 21 2009, 12:08 AM

Im in

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 21 2009, 12:50 AM

Great guys!

Posted by: ZakkWylde Aug 21 2009, 12:53 AM

Ofcourse I'm in!

Posted by: coloneldrew Aug 21 2009, 01:31 AM

Me too!

When's the deadline?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 21 2009, 07:04 AM

yeah! you can't miss this!




Great! I added the deadline to the original post! (5th september)

Posted by: Jesse Aug 21 2009, 07:58 AM

lol, remembers me of the gig of Black stone cherry I went too!!!






Just to see the opening band..

Posted by: DenisN Aug 21 2009, 09:08 AM

I hope I can join ,too...this will be my first colab and I have to get some hardware for recording. I'll do my best .
Cheers!

Posted by: Raph Aug 21 2009, 11:52 AM

I'm in

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 22 2009, 02:07 AM

Yes! I remember this!



Great! Tell me if you need some help!

Posted by: mhskeide Aug 22 2009, 03:16 PM

I`m in for sure! And for once I`m actually going to stay by word, since reaper is finally working good

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 22 2009, 06:25 PM

Excelent!

Posted by: Martin la guitarra Aug 22 2009, 06:28 PM

I'd like to join, i just hope i dont come across any difficulties with recording

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 22 2009, 08:28 PM

ok, keep me updated and tell me if you need help.

Posted by: Sensible Jones Aug 22 2009, 09:05 PM

I'll give this one a try Gabe!

Posted by: kaznie_NL Aug 22 2009, 10:37 PM

I'm In!! Please

Posted by: superize Aug 22 2009, 11:21 PM

I am in.....

Edit:

Here is my take....

Posted by: audiopaal Aug 22 2009, 11:57 PM

Please let me join

Posted by: Power_Arctica Aug 23 2009, 02:32 PM

Ill try to do my best....im in!

Posted by: kaznie_NL Aug 23 2009, 05:56 PM

There ya go

Posted by: Outlaw2112 Aug 23 2009, 09:26 PM

Ill give it a shot if you still have room...

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 24 2009, 07:17 AM

Thanks for your take Superize!




I let you join!



Great!



Thank you Kaznie!



You are in!

Posted by: audiopaal Aug 24 2009, 04:15 PM

Awesome, I'll do my best!

Posted by: Chris Evans Aug 24 2009, 08:20 PM

here ya go, heres my take, great backing! thanks

lil sloppy in a couple of places

no backing file is dry without effects (just gain)

 Gabe_Southern_Rock_chris_with_BT.mp3 ( 814.74K ) : 207



 Gabe_Southern_Rock_chris_no_BT.mp3 ( 802.89K ) : 175

Posted by: dark_dude Aug 24 2009, 08:27 PM

Lets give a collab. a shot! I'm in!

OHHHH YEAAAAAAAAH \m/

Posted by: Nimrandir Aug 24 2009, 08:34 PM

I'd like to try this one
The only question is - can I use my wahwah?

Posted by: Staffy Aug 24 2009, 09:10 PM

Im in, I normally dont play this kinda music, but its thrilling !!!

//Staffay

Posted by: mhskeide Aug 24 2009, 10:46 PM

*Fanfare*

Now I`m officially posting my first collab-take, feels kinda cool

Solo is a improvised on the spot, overgained, wahwahed (is that a word?) Zakk attack kinda solo. Didn`t use much time to perfect it, but I think it`ll do

HOLY SMITH! That tapping lick melted my face

Posted by: Outlaw2112 Aug 25 2009, 01:08 AM

here you go... sloppy in a couple of places but all improvised, took a couple of seconds to get in the feel of it

Posted by: dark_dude Aug 25 2009, 03:26 PM

Not too happy with the ending, wanted a fast, extended ascending run, but it'll do for now. May re-take later.

Anyhow, here's my first original recording ever

Included dry track without BT, wet with BT, wet without BT.

 southern_metal_darkdude.mp3 ( 1.34MB ) : 196

 southern_metal_darkdude_nobt.mp3 ( 1.34MB ) : 141

 southern_metal_darkdude_nobt_dry.mp3 ( 1.34MB ) : 159

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 25 2009, 07:56 PM

wou guys!! We have many Southern rockers here!! Thanks for you amazing takes!
Can't wait to start mixing this!

Posted by: Martin la guitarra Aug 25 2009, 08:08 PM

sorry Gab but i wont be able to record any takes as my mobil just broke (i was planning to record it with that

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 25 2009, 08:24 PM

Uh! Ok... Thanks for notifying me!

Posted by: Dexxter Aug 27 2009, 08:51 PM

I'm in Gabe!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 27 2009, 09:26 PM

Great Dexxter!

Posted by: dark_dude Aug 31 2009, 01:14 AM

Will upload a new take before the deadline.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 31 2009, 01:18 AM

Great! Thank you!

Posted by: TheKeplerConjecture Aug 31 2009, 04:16 AM

Here's mine. Awesome backing. Sorta reminds me of CoC. Thanks!

 TheKeplerConjecture_SouthernMetal.mp3 ( 1.05MB ) : 209

 TheKeplerConjecture_SouthernMetal_NBT.mp3 ( 1.05MB ) : 173

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 1 2009, 06:50 PM

Killer! Are you Corrossion of conformity guitar player??

thank you!

Posted by: jafomatic Sep 1 2009, 10:19 PM

Well, I had something good on the first day but failed to record it and became very busy with our real-life job. I have got to break that "don't record this yet" habit. This is almost as good but missing something ... zakky.

 GLSM_jafomatic_wbt.mp3 ( 1.31MB ) : 186


 GLSM_jafomatic_solo.mp3 ( 1.31MB ) : 155

Posted by: Outlaw2112 Sep 3 2009, 12:35 AM

nice recording... what did you use to make the drums sound soo heavy at the start of this

Posted by: jafomatic Sep 3 2009, 12:41 AM

Maximus multiband compressor/limiter. I've been misusing it for a few months now, usually with good results. Mostly what you get from it is overall loudness. Sometimes a track has already been compressed plenty and you'll distort the sound, but sometimes you get to hear more of the track. At least, in my old --damaged-- ears, it tends to sound better as long as I don't over-do it.

Thanks for listening

Posted by: Outlaw2112 Sep 3 2009, 12:45 AM

it sounds alot better imo... are you using sonar?

nice job

Posted by: jafomatic Sep 3 2009, 12:47 AM

FL Studio 8 XXL producer blah blah blah. Image-line makes the plugin and the daw.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 4 2009, 03:23 AM

Thank you for the take! It sounds very good! Great tone!

Posted by: Nimrandir Sep 4 2009, 05:05 PM

Here's my take. I'm not happy with it, but I'm not sure that I'll be able to record it better as I'm feeling fluish today. Fast runs are sloppy as hell, but at least it's something

Also I feel that the tone is not aggressive enough (although I broke 2 high e strings while jamming over this backing track ), so could you please advice how to make it better (maybe some EQ tweaks)?

Posted by: jafomatic Sep 4 2009, 05:07 PM

Why so down? That's great playing! Just maybe normalize the guitar track and that should make it big enough?

Posted by: DenisN Sep 4 2009, 07:00 PM

Hi Guys....how can I download the backing track...can it be downloaded directly from the site..I did get the backing from Gabriel but it's too long, it's the lenght of the lesson not the solo part.

Posted by: Nimrandir Sep 4 2009, 07:25 PM

Maybe it's great, but not great enough What do you mean by "normalize"?


The link for backing track download is in the first post of this thread

Posted by: dark_dude Sep 4 2009, 07:28 PM

I've got some new ideas for a new lead section, but I won't be able to post it until tomorrow. It's faster and have to get my head around it.

Posted by: jafomatic Sep 4 2009, 07:47 PM

I don't know another name for it (similar to compression I guess, but selective) but the waveform is increased in level until the highest of its peaks reaches 0db (normal) which can drag any lower peaks up in proportion. If you have any peaks clipped, it won't do anything at all. If you have more headroom, it fills that headroom with the sound in your track.

This is not the best explanation, and hopefully Gabriel will notice your question and answer it better as he is a properly trained sound engineer if I remember correctly.

Posted by: Nimrandir Sep 4 2009, 09:19 PM

I think I got what you mean But it looks like my waveform is clipped most of the time


Never had anything like this before, it's probably because of my wah, it seems that the clips occur when the wah is in its treble-most position.

Posted by: jafomatic Sep 4 2009, 09:41 PM

Some wahs have a little boost or pre-amp kinda feature. I generally dislike the idea of that feature, though I cannot say I've used them myself (aside from foolin' around at a music store).

I would go to great lengths to avoid that much clipping, maybe see if that wah feature can be turned off or find some kind of software attentuation or powersoak? I dunno much about your rig but I'm pretty sure that clipping will drive you crazy after a while.

Posted by: DenisN Sep 5 2009, 08:55 AM

Oh man!...thanks Nimrandir...I'm a total goof...I thought I couldn't download, just listen to it on the net in the media player!...what can I say...I'm new in thsis business ...thanks a lot!

BR

Denis

Posted by: DenisN Sep 5 2009, 12:53 PM

Hi Guys!

This my humble take....its my first colab and solo ever so be gentle ...I tried to put as much 'Wylde' in to it as I could. I didn't have much time for playing the last week so I didn't clean up some parts as well as I should. Hope you like it

Posted by: Marek Rojewski Sep 5 2009, 04:08 PM

Hi there Gabriel! I recorded something today, it is not what I wanted, but... --> I haven't played for quite a while, and first time in my life, I have blisters/bubbles (don't know the right word) on my fingertips, so I can't record anything better as my fingertips hurts badly I think that those blisters should disappear in few days, but I got them yesterday, and today is the deadline.

So I upload what I have, and will try to replace it with a take on better preset and with some minor tweaks here and there if the blisters go away, before You do the mix. Of course if You would have to wait for it, than don't do it, I don't want other people to wait for the mix and comments because of me.

 souut.mp3 ( 534.89K ) : 187
With the backing
 souutwb.mp3 ( 522.64K ) : 137
Without the backing

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 5 2009, 05:37 PM

Your take is really good! Awesome playing! It seems that you recorded the take clipped. This is the reason why you can't hear a clear sound. When you cut the peaks of a take you loss the high frequencies where it has the sound "details" or maybe we could call it clarity. And tt's very difficult to fix a clipped take with EQ in the mix. As jafomatic said, you shoud try to attenuate with any level parameter (previous to your sound card) your guitar when you use the wah wah. Anyhow this take is ok so if you wat we can use it for the collab!

Thanks you.




Well done Denis! Thank you for your take and congrats for your first participation!! I'll give you the detailed comments in the final mix thread.



Thank you Marek! I like the solo! Please send me a PM if you do a new take when you have it.

Posted by: audiopaal Sep 5 2009, 06:00 PM

Sorry Gabe, I'll pass on this collab
I've been so busy lately and I don't have the time to record it today either..

There's a lot of other great takes though, so I'm sure the final mix will be awesome

Great work guys!!!

Posted by: Nimrandir Sep 5 2009, 06:22 PM

Thanks guys for helping me out! I'll try to adjust levels next time.

Unfortunately, I feel quite bad today, so I most probably won't be able to lay a better take, so we'll have to use the one I've uploaded

Posted by: Dexxter Sep 5 2009, 07:59 PM

Hey Gabe! I decided to not compose something over this backing, so I recorded my very first Impro over this backing.. But I found the ending a bit weak, so I couldn't resist changing the last 3 and a half bars I have uploaded both takes tho, so choose which ever you want

[attachment=17611:Dexxter_...mpro_WBT.mp3]
[attachment=17612:Dexxter_...mpro_NBT.mp3]
[attachment=17613:Dexxter_...mpro_WBT.mp3]
[attachment=17614:Dexxter_...mpro_NBT.mp3]

Posted by: dark_dude Sep 5 2009, 08:27 PM

Sorry Gabriel, but I've chosen not to record my re-thought faster entry as I simply can't play it cleanly enough. I'll just have to stick with what I submitted, even though I'm not happy with it due to not having any real southern metal feel to it other than some wah and the scale.

My other version contained some fast 3nps stretched AP runs across the high e and b, similar to the end of the no more tears solo (ozzy), but with a stretch, and what really got me was the ascending minor pent on the 10th fret going to a 17th to 12th stretch on the high E, then coming back down. I simply can't play it cleanly!

Anyhow, that is all.

Posted by: enforcer Sep 5 2009, 08:42 PM

I am sorry I am late gabe but here is my take, hope you like it, it was recorded in a haste and has some sloppy playing in it but in the end the thing is to have fun isnt it?

Posted by: leedbreak Sep 6 2009, 06:43 AM

Just a Little late, Local time

Started a bit off key maybe but, this take was the funnest so it's it.


 S_Metal_leedbreak_BT.mp3 ( 565.21K ) : 166


 S_Metal_leedbreak_NOBT.mp3 ( 565.21K ) : 158

Posted by: Power_Arctica Sep 6 2009, 07:31 PM

Gabi, Im really sorry cause im really late!!!
This is not the final take but was the improsivation and the solo that i wanted practice and record for this collaborarion... sorry for the uncleaned licks

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 7 2009, 09:35 PM

Ok Paal! See you rocking in the next one!




Thank you Dexxter! What do you use for recording? X3?







Don't worry! Well done! You did a great choice. It has no sense to record something that you can't play perfect. Take your time to practice that type of licks. I remember some Pablo Vazquez lessons based on those Zakk Wylde style licks.




Exactly! Thanks for the take!




Thanks for your funny take leedbreak!




This is an amazing solo Mariano! Are you going to participate?

Posted by: Dexxter Sep 7 2009, 09:43 PM

Yes Why you asking?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 8 2009, 04:29 AM

just curious. I liked the tone and I found it familiar...

Posted by: leedbreak Sep 8 2009, 04:40 AM

Guess I should have said most enjoyable to play.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 8 2009, 04:07 PM

I understood what you mean!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 18 2009, 04:11 AM

hey guys! I have finished the AMAZING final mix and half of the comments. However I'll be out and offline this weekend so I'll continue with this on monday!

Posted by: jafomatic Sep 18 2009, 04:32 AM

You are teasing us, sir!