Need Help From Luciana :p, Or just everyone, who can give me some advice:-P |
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Jul 18 2007, 04:27 PM
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if ur serious about metal screamin and singin den u should get da zen guide of screamin (check out the website http://www.melissacross.com/home.php? ).
it shows all the forms of screamin also shows u how to put distortion on ur voice). bt in da meanwhile if u want a fry scream da easiest way is to close ur mouth and hum and squeak at the same time , once u gt dat den u open ur mouth and u should hav a basic fry scream. hope dat helps -------------------- Ibanez sa260 (hell ya)
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Jul 18 2007, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE (sillyman @ Jul 18 2007, 04:27 PM)  if ur serious about metal screamin and singin den u should get da zen guide of screamin (check out the website http://www.melissacross.com/home.php? ). it shows all the forms of screamin also shows u how to put distortion on ur voice). bt in da meanwhile if u want a fry scream da easiest way is to close ur mouth and hum and squeak at the same time , once u gt dat den u open ur mouth and u should hav a basic fry scream. hope dat helps I was checking that page, because I didn't know Melissa Cross... soud good,, I will checking a litlle more... |
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Jul 18 2007, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE (sillyman @ Jul 18 2007, 05:27 PM) if ur serious about metal screamin and singin den u should get da zen guide of screamin (check out the website http://www.melissacross.com/home.php? ). it shows all the forms of screamin also shows u how to put distortion on ur voice). bt in da meanwhile if u want a fry scream da easiest way is to close ur mouth and hum and squeak at the same time , once u gt dat den u open ur mouth and u should hav a basic fry scream. hope dat helps sillyman! Secret! You told a secret! You... you... Why, I ought to...  Nah, seriously... Melissa Cross' (first) Zen of Screaming DVD is pretty good.  Haven't looked at the second one. I don't use screaming often, checked the first DVD out of curiosity. The only thing that bothers me is that two hours is really not enough in the way that Melissa presents it. She's a good teacher, that's for sure, but I'm sure she's better in person, and somehow, that DVD seemed more like a teaser to take real lessons from her. Some of the lessons just lack detail (like the amount of precision and detail Luciana can put up in a single lesson on the web ). Thankfully, when I needed it, there were more "classic" vocal trainers around here, who were open enough to (and experienced enough in) "modern aesthetics" that they helped me on the right path - even if I'll never need to growl or scream for an entire concert  , the techniques are helpful for texture and expression too.In any event, Melissa's DVD is a very good start, but I wouldn't feel really ready or comfortable enough to be a death metal lead singer after following it As for breathing (which this topic also turned into being about), Luciana has that essential part perfectly covered in the latest singing lesson.
This post has been edited by Kaneda: Jul 18 2007, 06:06 PM |
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Jul 18 2007, 06:16 PM
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Hmm.. i got this DVD too.. but the problem is, that the only thing, that she teaches you completely on that DVD is how to warm up.. which I know how to do already.. I really do not get how i should scream "from heart" and make "distortion" in nose.. she had just shown what does it look like, but no how to...
-------------------- my youtube account with riffs and ideas: https://www.youtube.com/user/Phoenygzus
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Jul 18 2007, 06:27 PM
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Yeah, I heard about ZoS2 too.. but I¨ll have to wait for a while before getting it.. Btw. throw these secrets here;) I would appreciate:)
-------------------- my youtube account with riffs and ideas: https://www.youtube.com/user/Phoenygzus
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Jul 18 2007, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE (Owen @ Jul 18 2007, 08:15 PM) Same problem here, I was getting bored to listening as to how she was such "a great teacher". I saw the trailer for the second, it doesn't look much better and I agree that it should be covered by someone on a much broader basis. Yeah.. totally:-D It was like half of the "document", when those singers were saying, how much they had improved.. buuuut... I HADN'T IMPROVED FFS  Btw. the second, from what I saw and heard, should be more to point.. rawr.. i want to learn vocal fry so much.. the problem is, that I dont know, how to translate it into czech (we have some stupid terms for everything..) so no way to find teacher for this, when I cant tell him, what I want to learn.. also, all teachers, that I met till today were like "No, you CANT sing like that, it will damage your throat, and screaming is bad and metal singing is bad, if you'll do it, you'll hurt your vocal chords blah blah blah.. just sing pop". To be honest, i dont give a *ehm*.. I just want to scream like Anselmo, and I'll be satisfied PS: Try to imagine, that in 50% of lessons here on GMC will Kris and Pavel be saying, how much they had improved and how cool they are in guitarplaying
This post has been edited by Jakub Luptovec: Jul 18 2007, 07:34 PM -------------------- my youtube account with riffs and ideas: https://www.youtube.com/user/Phoenygzus
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Jul 18 2007, 07:58 PM
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Yeah, I've tried to find open teacher.. but the problem is, that I have only found teachers from local musical academy, and they are only open to classical opera singing.. but ill keep on trying:)
Anyway.. milion thanks for advices:) Btw. is this thread going any further?
This post has been edited by Jakub Luptovec: Jul 18 2007, 07:58 PM -------------------- my youtube account with riffs and ideas: https://www.youtube.com/user/Phoenygzus
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Jul 18 2007, 08:45 PM
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Oh.. thanks:) And yeah.. i understand what you mean.. Normal singing is great most of times.. but in some songs and especially in some kinds of music.. screamings suits much better and its much more energic in my opinion:)
I am really looking forward to your lessons, especially that one about screming
-------------------- my youtube account with riffs and ideas: https://www.youtube.com/user/Phoenygzus
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Jul 18 2007, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE I can help you... just let me try to do a lesson about screaming...I'm working on it ok...?  *Spontaneous Worship*
-------------------- Don't Panic.
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Oct 10 2007, 03:10 AM
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Heres an example of the glottar(vocal) fry Kaneda was talking about earlier;
http://www.lionsvoiceclinic.umn.edu/Sounds/gf.htm This post has been edited by Owen: Oct 18 2007, 07:25 AM -------------------- Don't Panic.
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