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Mar 13 2009, 06:39 PM
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If I have a chord progression, how do I go about determining what scales I can use over that progression?
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Mar 13 2009, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Mar 13 2009, 06:48 PM)  Shred Dentist!!!   Fluid legato-dentist legatoing through your patiens teeth.
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Mar 13 2009, 06:57 PM
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for these G5, Bb5, C5 you can use Gm pentatonic over all 3 chords and it would work. If you want to extend you can try Bb major scale over G and Bb and C mixolydian over C chord.
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Mar 13 2009, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE (Toroso @ Mar 13 2009, 05:47 PM) Well, this one at the moment, G5, Bb5, C5. What I'm getting at tho, is that I pull down backing tracks and usually all I will get is the key and sometimes the progression. So I want the knowledge to figure this out for myself.  Well that sounds like a rock backing so you should use G Minor Pentatonic/Blues. I'll give you some advice though on how to work this out for yourself. Most of the time, the first chord will determine the key of the music, i.e. Cmaj7, would be Csomething, or Fmin9 would be Fsomething. The chord which sounds most finished determines the key of the song. Therefore the key of this chord progression is G. Then you have to break up each individual chord. So for this chord progression: G5=G+D Bb5=Bb+F C5=C+G If you put all of these notes in a scale you get: G Bb C D F. Of common scales this could make the Minor Scale (Aeolian), Phrygian, Dorian, Minor Pentatonic and Blues, if you added in the relevant notes. This means you can use any of them with that chord progression. There are lots of exotic scales you could use but they are not very commonly used so it is easier just to ignore them. If you want to look at some then look at Ramiro's Exotic Scales series. You then have to decide which scale to use by listening to the chord progression and knowing what the scales that can be used sound like. I recognised this progression as a common rock progression (sorry if it isn't where you're using it), and therefore thought the Minor Pentatonic/Blues scales were most appropriate as they are very common rock scales. Any of the scales I listed could have been used though. Hope this helps Matt |
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Mar 13 2009, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Mar 13 2009, 06:48 PM) Shred Dentist!!! Alright... I got a new one here... just came up with it while doing the dishes: Shred'ntist!
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Mar 13 2009, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE (Matt23 @ Mar 13 2009, 02:01 PM) Well that sounds like a rock backing so you should use G Minor Pentatonic/Blues. I'll give you some advice though on how to work this out for yourself. Most of the time, the first chord will determine the key of the music, i.e. Cmaj7, would be Csomething, or Fmin9 would be Fsomething. The chord which sounds most finished determines the key of the song. Therefore the key of this chord progression is G. Then you have to break up each individual chord. So for this chord progression: G5=G+D Bb5=Bb+F C5=C+G If you put all of these notes in a scale you get: G Bb C D F. Of common scales this could make the Minor Scale (Aeolian), Phrygian, Dorian, Minor Pentatonic and Blues, if you added in the relevant notes. This means you can use any of them with that chord progression. There are lots of exotic scales you could use but they are not very commonly used so it is easier just to ignore them. If you want to look at some then look at Ramiro's Exotic Scales series. You then have to decide which scale to use by listening to the chord progression and knowing what the scales that can be used sound like. I recognised this progression as a common rock progression (sorry if it isn't where you're using it), and therefore thought the Minor Pentatonic/Blues scales were most appropriate as they are very common rock scales. Any of the scales I listed could have been used though. Hope this helps Matt Thanks Matt This is a rock track and G Pent minor looks to be a good one.
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Mar 13 2009, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Mar 13 2009, 05:58 PM) You ruined it, you! haha why? You guys are making the whole science about 3 chords I wrote an easy and quick approach for that progression. G5, Bb5 and C5 is very common progression in any style and since they are all power chords it shouldn't be that complicated. I would personaly use Gm pentatonic over all 3 chords and I am sure it would work. In case that G5 gives a (major chord) impression then I would use major pentatonic. Speaking about the tension and the strong notes of the scale is something we could talk for hours. I thought Toroso was looking for an easy and straightforward answer. Pedja could elaborate about this progression in 15000 words but I don't think Toroso was looking for that whole science
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