The More I Use Multi Effects, The Worse I'm At Getting A Nice Tone From Them! |
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The More I Use Multi Effects, The Worse I'm At Getting A Nice Tone From Them! |
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Dec 2 2010, 04:17 PM |
I guess it sounds weird, but that's right!
When I got my POD X3 I was happy with the tones I built on it. Now I use it just to record from time to time, and it doesn't sound as good anymore. The same thing happens with my BOSS ME-70, which I use only when I'm on a weekend travel away from my practice rig... And I know both units are great, and I don't plan to renew them anytime soon. They do their job pretty well. It has to be me. And I think I know what's happenning. I'm getting use to my tube amp and stomp boxes, and I notice the difference a LOT when I record with the X3 or practice on a weekend with the ME-70 through some 2.1 speakers or Hi-Fi here and there... Maybe I should take a coupl days to exclusively fiddle with all those damned knobs on the X3 and the ME-70 to actually get something that gets close to my clean/distortion tones, but the more I get used to playing with stomps the more I loath having to fight against digital units. Maybe I'm finally developing an "ear" for good tones? Who knows But this whole "tone" thing is so complicated. Even when playing at home with the amp & stomps, changing from the Ibanez to the Strat makes it all wrong. Changing guitar means having to tweak the stomps/volume again, or else it won't sound 100% good. I bet acoustic players don't have these "problems" -------------------- Guitars:
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Dec 2 2010, 04:43 PM |
The same happens to me. I own a boss gt10 for about 1,5 years. Recently I've been tweaking a lot, trying to get "that" tone and I'm not satisfied..
Last weekend I went to a jam session with friends of other bands and the guy on the guitar was getting nice tones of his gt10. I got his patches and he used basically overdrive and reverb (some delay for solos). He don't use any amp model. Sometimes less is better ;o) By the way, have you already seen new POD HD500? http://line6.com/podhd/ The first reviews are optimistic! Ps. I really believe you are developing an ear for good tones. Practice makes perfect. Rock on! |
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Dec 3 2010, 04:16 PM |
This goes around in a circle, don't worry. The more you become "slack" about good tone, the worse it gets, the more you notice; eventually you'll hit a breaking point and start spending more time getting your tone "right" again and it'll sound amazing and great for a while.
Then you'll become slack again and the cycle renews. -------------------- ::jafomatic
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Dec 3 2010, 04:39 PM |
This goes around in a circle, don't worry. The more you become "slack" about good tone, the worse it gets, the more you notice; eventually you'll hit a breaking point and start spending more time getting your tone "right" again and it'll sound amazing and great for a while. Then you'll become slack again and the cycle renews. +1 there's a honeymoon period when you buy new gear. You think it sounds great otherwise you wouldn't have bought it. After a while you start to realise it isn't perfect and grow more dissatisfied. You might then convince yourself again that it's really not that bad but you're in to a cycle. -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Dec 4 2010, 06:04 PM |
Thanks for yout advice and comments guys.
At least I can see I'm not alone with this feeling, I thought I was going crazy or something . I do use Gearbox, but even with gearbox I find there are too many parameters to tweak. Even the simple amp EQ is sometimes hard to set. And after 15 minutes tweaking and tweaking you really don't know if what you hear is good or bad... sometimes I end up with a patch that I believe sounds ok and when I use it two hours later I find it obnoxious Oh well -------------------- Guitars:
Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Ibanez RG2570MZ, Epiphone SG G-400 Amp: Vox AC4TVH head + V112TV cab Effects: Vox Satchurator, Vox Time Machine, Dunlop CryBaby, Boss MT-2, Boss CE-5, Boss TU-2, Boss ME-70 Recording: Line-6 POD X3 + FBV-Express, Pandora PX5D GMC wants YOU to take part in our Guitar-Wikipedia! Have a good time reading great articles and writing your own with us in our GUITAR WIKI! Share your playing and get Pro-advice from our Instructors: Join REC |
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Dec 11 2010, 12:40 PM |
It's completely normal thing mate. First, when you swap instruments on the same gear (wetter it's digital or analog), they have different sound frequency responses, so it's normal that you need to tweak. For example, plugin in Strat requires more bass, less mids and less treble, opposite to Les Paul, that needs less bass, medium mids and medium lows. It changes with guitars of different model, not just these extremes.
I suggest that you spend some time making new presets. It could be that the old ones don't do it. I had similar problems with software modelers. Old presets just didn't cut it. Now that you have developed ear on the "real" gear, you can try to emulate those sounds on digital devices. Since you are experienced, you will have a good results I'm sure. -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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