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Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 13 2009, 02:18 PM
Let's brainstorm! 
Posted by: muntahunta Aug 13 2009, 02:22 PM
maybe a songwriting competition, the song has to be complete with backing track.
except this one has a twist... you must include riffs/solos from 1 lesson at GMC.
youd have to select the lesson and then write a song around the solos and riffs provided.
winner gets decided by vote?
Posted by: ZakkWylde Aug 13 2009, 02:24 PM
Wiki Writers Competition Round II
The first one encouraged a lot of people to write high quality articles and it filled the wiki with more than 100 articles in juat a few months!
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 13 2009, 02:29 PM
except this one has a twist... you must include riffs/solos from 1 lesson at GMC.
youd have to select the lesson and then write a song around the solos and riffs provided.
winner gets decided by vote?
hmm songwriting...I am not so sure - you might win that one!
No seriously that's a cool idea - the only problem I see is that we might not get that many participants (at least if we compare with "non-playing" competitions)
The first one encouraged a lot of people to write high quality articles and it filled the wiki with more than 100 articles in juat a few months!
Well, same answer to you Zakk!!
No seriously (once again) - this is something I have been thinking about for quite a while - it would cool to throw in some great prizes and launch a new wiki competition!
edit - do we have any more suggestions about the details of a new wiki competition, what would we want to see?
Posted by: muntahunta Aug 13 2009, 02:34 PM
haha 
ok heres another suggestion that may be of interest...
An Advertising Competition
Make an advert for GMC using either a jingle or a poster or a flash presentation or a video or any other media.
This advert could not only win you a cool prize but it would benefit GMC too, maybe being used to advertise the website in some way
obviously there should be guidelines and rules but all that is the fineprint
EDIT---
Just to clarify a jingle would be like an advert you heard on the radio or a television
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 13 2009, 02:37 PM
ok heres another suggestion that may be of interest...
An Advertising Competition
Make an advert for GMC using either a jingle or a poster or a flash presentation or a video or any other media.
This advert could not only win you a cool prize but it would benefit GMC too, maybe being used to advertise the website in some way
obviously there should be guidelines and rules but all that is the fineprint
EDIT---
Just to clarify a jingle would be like an advert you heard on the radio or a television
that's a really cool idea as well - I can image we would see quite some hilarious contributions!
By the way do you guys remember the "are you funny" competition..?
Posted by: muntahunta Aug 13 2009, 02:40 PM
By the way do you guys remember the "are you funny" competition..?
i think i must have been away for that one
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 13 2009, 02:44 PM
It was the one with me and the Ostrich:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=19004
Posted by: Sensible Jones Aug 13 2009, 02:47 PM
The first one encouraged a lot of people to write high quality articles and it filled the wiki with more than 100 articles in juat a few months!
You mean I've been doing these just for FUN?????????
Damn!!!!!
Posted by: muntahunta Aug 13 2009, 02:48 PM
i have no idea why but i cannot stop laughing at that ostrich!
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 13 2009, 03:06 PM
yes I know he seemed a little...tense. That's why I couldn't resist teasing him a little
Posted by: Fran Aug 13 2009, 03:17 PM
The first one encouraged a lot of people to write high quality articles and it filled the wiki with more than 100 articles in juat a few months!
I'm all for a new Wiki competition! (Obviously
, I wouldn't take part but organize it this time!)We can make a section for it where we keep a regularly updated scoreboard, links to the entries & marks they get, competition guidelines etc.
On top of that there are several http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=27205 going on such as the guitarist & genres lists, needed entries, as well as many different portals going on that should inspire participants to pick and create new entries.
Plus a lot of new & old GMCers would get an extra motivation to finally jump in the http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=19336!
Wiki! Wiki! Wiki!
Posted by: skennington Aug 13 2009, 03:23 PM
How bout a new T-shirt design contest? Or, maybe a GMC banner contest for the future layout?
Posted by: Gus Aug 13 2009, 03:29 PM
As far as I understand, most of the competitions are about 1 of these 2 things or both:
1) Making GMCers to practice and become better guitarists
2) Promote a features of the site
So what about a REC program competition?? 
That should make people practice GMC lessons like crazy
Posted by: jafomatic Aug 13 2009, 03:31 PM
Feels like the last one featured songwriting and arrangement so the wiki concept may be the better way to go. If we want it to be songwriting related without being a repeat of the last one, here's something I've been wanting to do/see for a long time for both music and comedy.
Some of my favorite songs are not really my favorite songs but rather are tunes that some musician or group has re-arranged into a new musical style. This is often best when the "target" style is far removed from the original. Gangsta Rap to Acoustic Folk, Gangsta Rap to Country, etc.
Some examples from youtube, if it will let me:
Dynamite Hack made a terrible early 90's rap "Boyz in the Hood" into a great song:
The Gourds (I always thought this was OAR) made a great country revision of Snoop's "Gin N Juice":
We even have a few lessons like this, in the "Canon Rock" collection. I think Marcus' band Blind Guardian has a cool metal version of Surfin' USA, yeah?
So why not make a contest to arrange some old well known (within their genre) songs into a new and inappropriate style? Metal to Country, Country to Emo/Rock, Pop to Neoclassical? Folk to Death? Seems like a few learning opportunities as well as some good comedy.
Really, who wouldn't want to hear Lian or Kris belting out Britney's "Oops, I did it again" in metal vocals?
Posted by: skennington Aug 13 2009, 03:37 PM
I would pay to see that!
Might be some copyright issues though..
Posted by: jafomatic Aug 13 2009, 03:40 PM
Might be some copyright issues though.. Definitely can't provide tabs and such on GMC, that's true. Could be that GMC just sets the rules and picks a few songs that are extreme examples of their native musical styles and leaves the rest up to the competitors. Ought to be great experience to transcribe the songs ourselves (even if there's some help from tabs we might go find elsewhere), right?
And dude, yeah. I would pay to hear that as well
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 13 2009, 03:43 PM
I think Children of Bodom might have done that already.By the way if someone handed me a metal arrangement of that song, I'd gladly sing it!
Really!As for the competition we could upload the videos/songs to youtube (if there is no video we could just have a static image) - if we do that and don't have any tabs here it won't be a problem.
Posted by: Oxac Aug 13 2009, 04:01 PM
I have a couple suggestions.
Transcriptions, a GMC instructor upload a solo that is to be transcribed, best transcription win. This time the contribution must be sent via mail or similar though, since it would be easy to copy from other contestants.
Michael Jackson, Best interpretation of a Michael Jackson song or similar. Due to the recent loss.
Best drawing of a guitar.
Best Idea for improvement of GMC.
Posted by: Raph Aug 13 2009, 04:02 PM
1) Making GMCers to practice and become better guitarists
2) Promote a features of the site
So what about a REC program competition??
That should make people practice GMC lessons like crazy
The comp centered around the REC program seems cool.
Maybe the prize for that competition would be like custom GMC forum profile graphics, custom name-thingies
for those titles you get when you pass the REC and maybe a chance to meet a GMC instructor of your choice (probably not going to happen, but worth metioning)
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 13 2009, 04:04 PM
That's a really cool idea!
Or even better: Best improvement of GMC - that's right, after all there are so many possible things you can do already, within the frameworks of the forum/wiki/blog. Really cool stuff!
Posted by: Raph Aug 13 2009, 04:07 PM
Or even better: Best improvement of GMC - that's right, after all there are so many things doable already within the frameworks of the forum/wiki/blog. Really cool stuff!
Oooh, if this becomes a competition, I've got ideas swelling out of my head. (Ow, it hurts!)
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 13 2009, 04:08 PM
edit - Oxac you might just have won your suggested competition!
Posted by: kaznie_NL Aug 13 2009, 05:30 PM
By the way do you guys remember the "are you funny" competition..?
Yep... I won
Oh, have a suggestion: "think of the best competition" competition?
Transcriptions, a GMC instructor upload a solo that is to be transcribed, best transcription win. This time the contribution must be sent via mail or similar though, since it would be easy to copy from other contestants.
Michael Jackson, Best interpretation of a Michael Jackson song or similar. Due to the recent loss.
Best drawing of a guitar.
Best Idea for improvement of GMC.
I think Oxac has cool ideas! It's important to trigger a big part of the community, also the ones who aren't as highly trained guitarists as Muris! The last competition, was purely based on guitar skills, so I guess it'd be good to do something non-guitar this time, or at least not in a way that only advanced players can win! I think the transcription is really cool, but possibly people will get the same result and, which is the "best" transcription? I also like the redoing a song with your own interpretation, choose something slow for the non-advanced, and it'd be awesome! Great thinking Oxac!!!
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 13 2009, 05:35 PM
Yep - agreed!
Posted by: Raph Aug 13 2009, 06:22 PM
What will we award then?
For like the GMC improvement ideas why not award site based awards.
Like, maybe custom badges, forum profile graphics, titles, custom video player maybe...
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 13 2009, 07:16 PM
Well my idea with the "GMC improvement competition" would be to reward actual improvement - not the ideas. The way I look at it is that anyone can come up with a good idea - but few can actually implement the idea, or come up with a working strategy on how to implement it.
So I thought about doing a competition about both coming up with an idea - and implementing it.
" - So how could we implement an idea, we can't change the site's content?" Well you can, here are some examples:
* GMC lacks good beginner material - you could gather the best beginner material (video, wiki, forum, practice agenda etc) in a wiki article
* Many new members at GMC don't get very active on the forum (discussed in another thread today) - you could contact lots of people via the forum, start chatting with them and get them active. By the end of the competition you could give us a list of your achievements and you might win.
* You come up with an idea on how GMC could be promoted elsewhere on the web. Either carry your idea through, or write a detailed description of how it would work. (Ie the "GMC Idol" idea is great and something we all want, but just that wouldn't be enough, however a detailed description of how it would work and how it would be carried through might have a chance to win the competition)
* Gmc has lots of loosely connected features (practice agenda, Virtual bands etc etc) - you come up with a brilliant idea on how to connect them. Even better you create a wiki page where you connect it all and we link to it from somewhere central on the site (if you win, that is!)
* GMC has even more "loosely connected" lessons - you come up with a new categorizing method which gives our archive a better structure.
* You have programming skills and can actually build a useful feature for GMC. Of course it would have to be something farily independant from the rest of GMC, since we can't really let anobody inside the site's code.
Most of these ideas aren't really a matter of building something big and new - but rather making something good with what we have. And it's that sort of thinking we need more of!
Posted by: Murloc Aug 13 2009, 08:13 PM
You sure came up with a creative idea for a competition
Posted by: kaznie_NL Aug 14 2009, 04:22 PM
Kris, the idea is cool, but (i'm always Devil's Attorney ) it might not be clear enough to make this into a competition. You want improvement with the already existing material, but there needs to be a better way of making that into a match! I mean, how can we compare someone who wrote a wiki article connecting the VBs with someone who redecorated the front page?
Nice idea Kris
Posted by: Koopid Aug 14 2009, 04:36 PM
I have an idea, but I don't know if it could be a competition or a collaboration, it would require a lot of prices...
Anyhow, this idea is something i wanted to do for a while with my band, the idea is to create a song in a different way ..
This is the idea for 4 songs...
1. Someone create a drumtrack and add a basic chordprogression using powerchords only. I am talking the most basic chordprogression you can do, one downstroke each chordchange. The chordtrack is to be removed later THe drumtrack should be quite generic too.
2. Send the the drumtrack to 2 bassplayers who will add their basslines to the track following the very basic original track.
3. Bassplayers sends their tracks to two rythm guitarists each who will add rythm guitar tracks (these tracks can be multiple and quite advanced) and remove the original chordprogression track.
4. the 4 rythmguitarists sends their tracks (that should now have drums, bass and rythm) to a vocalist each who will add vocals, need to add room for solo(s).
5. Solo guitarists will add solos and the song is done.
During the whole collaboration noone is to discuss or show their ideas about their takes with other persons. It should be quite fun to see how much the songs would vary when different people add their thoughts to it without getting inspired by eachothers takes and ideas, and the bassist and rythmguitarists are certainly gonna have an idea about the endresult when they add their tracks that are most likelly not gonna be there
It is probable too complex for a competition i guess though, but it would still be a fun journey i am sure..
EDIT: The winner would be decided by vote or jury or combination but it would be a team win...
Posted by: Koopid Aug 14 2009, 06:26 PM
Hmm, I just read my own post and its an impossible competition... it would be a fun collab tho i guess
Posted by: Oxac Aug 14 2009, 09:47 PM
Now where's the fun in declaring a winner before the competition has started? Thanks though. When/Where can I claim my prize?
Posted by: MickeM Aug 14 2009, 10:34 PM
Battle of the one man bands and virtual bands.
Make a song, everyone publish it at the same time in a GMC-group at for example www.soundclick.com which have charts. Then see who get's highest on the charts within a month.
Also a good way of displaying our community out there.
Posted by: jafomatic Aug 14 2009, 10:39 PM
Make a song, everyone publish it at the same time in a GMC-group at for example www.soundclick.com which have charts. Then see who get's highest on the charts within a month.
Also a good way of displaying our community out there.
uh, +1 for this. Marketing at the same time is definitely a smart idea.
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 14 2009, 10:48 PM
So I thought about doing a competition about both coming up with an idea - and implementing it.
" - So how could we implement an idea, we can't change the site's content?" Well you can, here are some examples:
* GMC lacks good beginner material - you could gather the best beginner material (video, wiki, forum, practice agenda etc) in a wiki article
* Many new members at GMC don't get very active on the forum (discussed in another thread today) - you could contact lots of people via the forum, start chatting with them and get them active. By the end of the competition you could give us a list of your achievements and you might win.
* You come up with an idea on how GMC could be promoted elsewhere on the web. Either carry your idea through, or write a detailed description of how it would work. (Ie the "GMC Idol" idea is great and something we all want, but just that wouldn't be enough, however a detailed description of how it would work and how it would be carried through might have a chance to win the competition)
* Gmc has lots of loosely connected features (practice agenda, Virtual bands etc etc) - you come up with a brilliant idea on how to connect them. Even better you create a wiki page where you connect it all and we link to it from somewhere central on the site (if you win, that is!)
* GMC has even more "loosely connected" lessons - you come up with a new categorizing method which gives our archive a better structure.
* You have programming skills and can actually build a useful feature for GMC. Of course it would have to be something farily independant from the rest of GMC, since we can't really let anobody inside the site's code.
Most of these ideas aren't really a matter of building something big and new - but rather making something good with what we have. And it's that sort of thinking we need more of!
I think structuring the GMC content competition would definitely be a win-win situation!
Posted by: Mrblomme Aug 14 2009, 10:50 PM
That seems very nice! Would be fun!
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 14 2009, 11:50 PM
Koopid's idea would definitely be cool to try as a collab!
Well we sure have enough ideas to run a new competition - unless anyone another idea?
Posted by: Skalde Aug 15 2009, 12:58 AM
please start the Koopid collab, it sounds funny
Posted by: Pedja Simovic Aug 15 2009, 09:14 AM
Excellent ideas everybody. Very much look forward to what next competition will be like. I like Oxac's and Kristofer's ideas the most so far. Hope we can make some of it happen.
Posted by: maharzan Aug 15 2009, 09:39 AM
Did anyone say...
What would be our next competition - best idea wins !!! ?
Posted by: audiopaal Aug 17 2009, 08:43 AM
That's a GREAT i... No! Wait!
I can't participate, so that's a no go
Make a song, everyone publish it at the same time in a GMC-group at for example www.soundclick.com which have charts. Then see who get's highest on the charts within a month.
Also a good way of displaying our community out there.
I like this one
Posted by: Koopid Aug 17 2009, 10:35 AM
I just read http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=29712&hl=.
Why not make a "best music video" competition.
It could be the same song for everyone like a longer lesson or a finished collaboration or whatever. It would be great fun I believe
Edited for grammar..
Posted by: Pedja Simovic Aug 17 2009, 11:02 AM
Very good idea Koopid!
Posted by: twist Aug 17 2009, 12:40 PM
I would like the tshirt or banner design contest
Posted by: Marc_Maiden Aug 17 2009, 06:27 PM
GMC Music video/Commercial
Students can either choose Lessons or create their own song, to make a music video or commercial for GMC
this will encourage people to work on video production and REC and of course writing or practicing music
winners can get their commercial on the front page of the site
good way to promote the site as well.
EDIT
koopid beat me to it!
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