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Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 29 2016, 05:28 PM

Hello friends! Welcome to our new collaboration!!

This time I've recorded a backing in the style of Nirvana, and our founder and rockstar Kristofer Dahl is already working on totally amazing lyrics and vocals. I'm impressed of the first demo he's just sent me.

Before we start, I'd like to share the final video of the previous collab in the case you've missed it: https://youtu.be/q_TOEfXdZ-g

Isn't it awesome??? You can be part of the next one right now!


Backing track:  Nirvana_Collab.mp3 ( 2.34MB ) : 281


Jamtrack:  Jamtrack.mp3 ( 9.02MB ) : 436


Tempo: 160 bpm


Key and Scale choices:

Intro: The intro is based on a riff with power chords: F#5 - C5 - F#5 - C5 - F#5 - C5 - A5

Verse: The verse is based on the same riff than the intro played by the bass.

Chorus: B5 - D5 - A5 -C5

Solo section: I recorded a reference solo. The backing is the same than the verse. So you can record you own ideas over the verse or jamtrack.

The best scale for this progression which is based on a minor mode of F# is this one:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

However you could also experiment with F# blues scale trying to avoid staying too much on the 5th (C#):

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator


IF YOU NEED HELP TO USE ALL THIS INFO LET ME KNOW! I'M HERE TO GUIDE YOU.


IMPORTANT INFO About files required:

In order to make the things easier for compiling takes and mixing I need that each participant shares 3 files:

- Audio file with the mix of the backing and your guitar.
- Audio file only with your guitar (If possible this audio should have the same length than the mix version)
- Video of you playing the solo, and if it's not possible a picture. (Mp4 format if it's possible)

The best way to share this is compressing in a zip file to be downloaded from here or using sharing service as dropbox, wetransfer, and copying the link here.

If you decide to share your files using soundcloud please remember to "allow downloads".

Thanks!


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FINAL RESULT
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Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 29 2016, 07:33 PM

Aaaand here is the track with vocals:

https://soundcloud.com/kristoferdahl/nirvana-collab-vocal-draft

Mp3 version:  kris_vox_Nirvana_collab_v2.mp3 ( 2.41MB ) : 383


Dadio
I heard my dadio
sing on the radio
I've hurt my dadio
by shooting video

Dadio is here, Dadio is free, Dadio is near, Daddio is deep
Dad ain't coming back, Dad ain’t coming clean
Dad I’ll set you free, Dammit let him be

I could spin a rocket in my sleep
Dad, where are you?


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If you want to be inspired by Kurts guitar work, it was all about melodies, noises and attitude - no fancy playing.

But any contribution you can think of will be appreciated:

* Use your rock licks

* Record another instrument: bass, vocals, drums etc

* program a vst instrument etc

Did I forget something? Let us know what do you think!

Posted by: Phil66 Aug 29 2016, 07:45 PM

I'll try to fit this in wink.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 29 2016, 08:31 PM

hehehe Cobain would be proud of this one!! Killer job Kris!! smile.gif


As Kris said in his post, everything is welcome on this collab! You can even record yourself playing one of the riffs and you'll be part.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Aug 30 2016, 04:18 AM

LOCRIAN MODE!!! Been forever since I tried that In a solo smile.gif Sure why not!!! Count me in smile.gif

Todd


QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 29 2016, 12:28 PM) *
Hello friends! Welcome to our new collaboration!!

This time I've recorded a backing in the style of Nirvana, and our founder and rockstar Kristofer Dahl is already working on totally amazing lyrics and vocals. I'm impressed of the first demo he's just sent me.

Before we start, I'd like to share the final video of the previous collab in the case you've missed it: https://youtu.be/q_TOEfXdZ-g

Isn't it awesome??? You can be part of the next one right now!


Backing track:  Nirvana_Collab.mp3 ( 2.34MB ) : 281


Jamtrack:  Jamtrack.mp3 ( 9.02MB ) : 436


Tempo: 160 bpm


Key and Scale choices:

Intro: The intro is based on a riff with power chords: F#5 - C5 - F#5 - C5 - F#5 - C5 - A5

Verse: The verse is based on the same riff than the intro played by the bass.

Chorus: B5 - D5 - A5 -C5

Solo section: I recorded a reference solo. The backing is the same than the verse. So you can record you own ideas over the verse or jamtrack.

The best scale for this progression which is based on a minor mode of F# is this one:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

However you could also experiment with F# blues scale trying to avoid staying too much on the 5th (C#):

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator


IF YOU NEED HELP TO USE ALL THIS INFO LET ME KNOW! I'M HERE TO GUIDE YOU.


IMPORTANT INFO About files required:

In order to make the things easier for compiling takes and mixing I need that each participant shares 3 files:

- Audio file with the mix of the backing and your guitar.
- Audio file only with your guitar (If possible this audio should have the same length than the mix version)
- Video of you playing the solo, and if it's not possible a picture. (Mp4 format if it's possible)

The best way to share this is compressing in a zip file to be downloaded from here or using sharing service as dropbox, wetransfer, and copying the link here.

If you decide to share your files using soundcloud please remember to "allow downloads".

Thanks!


DEADLINE: September 25th


Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 30 2016, 11:12 AM

Awesome - 2 people in already! biggrin.gif

Posted by: fzalfa Aug 30 2016, 11:26 AM

Hi

i'll do a try

cheers

Laurent

Posted by: Wyverex Aug 30 2016, 12:56 PM

I'll try to get something done this time! cool.gif

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 30 2016, 01:01 PM

Awesome Laurent and Wyverex! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 30 2016, 11:40 PM

Awesome friends!! You are totally welcome!! smile.gif

Posted by: bleez Aug 31 2016, 08:41 AM

It sounds great already! Very cool vocals, Kris.
Im totally in biggrin.gif

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Aug 31 2016, 11:59 AM

QUOTE (bleez @ Aug 31 2016, 09:41 AM) *
It sounds great already! Very cool vocals, Kris.
Im totally in biggrin.gif

Awesome to have you in Bleez! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Sensible Jones Aug 31 2016, 04:58 PM

Lovely, lovely Grunge!!!!
I'm in for sure. Might do some Bass as well!
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 31 2016, 09:20 PM

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Aug 31 2016, 12:58 PM) *
Lovely, lovely Grunge!!!!
I'm in for sure. Might do some Bass as well!
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


Awesome! Real bass will make this one sound much better! smile.gif

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 1 2016, 08:54 AM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 31 2016, 10:20 PM) *
Awesome! Real bass will make this one sound much better! smile.gif


Yes indeed - fingers crossed for you Sensible!

Posted by: Sensible Jones Sep 1 2016, 02:54 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 31 2016, 09:20 PM) *
Awesome! Real bass will make this one sound much better! smile.gif


QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 1 2016, 08:54 AM) *
Yes indeed - fingers crossed for you Sensible!

In that case I shall do the Bass first!
biggrin.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 1 2016, 03:04 PM

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Sep 1 2016, 10:54 AM) *
In that case I shall do the Bass first!
biggrin.gif



hahaha sounds good! I'll add it to the mix as soon as you post it here.

Posted by: Sensible Jones Sep 1 2016, 03:10 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 1 2016, 03:04 PM) *
hahaha sounds good! I'll add it to the mix as soon as you post it here.

Cool, I'll get it done in the next few days!!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 2 2016, 05:22 PM

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Sep 1 2016, 11:10 AM) *
Cool, I'll get it done in the next few days!!



Great! Thanks mate!!

Posted by: Sensible Jones Sep 5 2016, 03:47 PM

Will have it recorded and posted tomorrow!
smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 5 2016, 05:44 PM

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Sep 5 2016, 11:47 AM) *
Will have it recorded and posted tomorrow!
smile.gif



Great! smile.gif

Posted by: Sensible Jones Sep 6 2016, 10:32 PM

Here you go Gab. I know it's a bit rough so I'll re-do it if you want me to but probably not until next week!

https://soundcloud.com/neilwaller/nirvana-collab-bass-bt
https://soundcloud.com/neilwaller/nirvan-collab-bass-nbt

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 7 2016, 08:24 PM

Thanks a lot mate! I'll try it over the backing and I'll be back. wink.gif

Posted by: Sensible Jones Sep 8 2016, 04:00 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 7 2016, 08:24 PM) *
Thanks a lot mate! I'll try it over the backing and I'll be back. wink.gif

OK Gabe!!
smile.gif

Posted by: Wyverex Sep 9 2016, 07:49 PM

Basic structure stands, I will try to make a recording until Sunday smile.gif

Posted by: Wyverex Sep 10 2016, 07:41 PM

Ok here's my attempt at this. The tremolo picking is a bit shaky, so maybe you want to cut those parts. It was a good exercise though since I didn't knew I could actually pick at this speed biggrin.gif

Sorry for the noisy picture. I'm still trying to find the best workflow for video recording.

https://soundcloud.com/user-45599409/nirvana-collab-mix

https://soundcloud.com/user-45599409/nirvana-collab-guitar


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 12 2016, 12:08 AM

Hey Wyverex!! Thanks for your take mate! This really works for the track. smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 16 2016, 06:49 PM

9 days to go guys! Who is planning to record anything for this one?


Posted by: Phil66 Sep 16 2016, 07:59 PM

I'm going to try and squeeze it into my schedule.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 17 2016, 04:25 AM

I am!!!!! smile.gif

Todd


QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 16 2016, 01:49 PM) *
9 days to go guys! Who is planning to record anything for this one?

Posted by: Sensible Jones Sep 18 2016, 09:01 PM

Yep, will have it done during this week Gab!
smile.gif

Posted by: GeneT95 Sep 18 2016, 09:46 PM

Some ideas for the collab. Tried to play along with the song and vocals. Will get to video and files later.

(Edit : I rebalance my parts. I had them too loud at first. They may still be too loud.)
https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/daddionirvana2

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 19 2016, 08:15 AM

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Sep 6 2016, 11:32 PM) *
Here you go Gab. I know it's a bit rough so I'll re-do it if you want me to but probably not until next week!

https://soundcloud.com/neilwaller/nirvana-collab-bass-bt
https://soundcloud.com/neilwaller/nirvan-collab-bass-nbt


Cool! Over-all these bass lines felt really groovy. There are some problems though, namely the first note as it's not on time and might be tricky for Gab to fix.

QUOTE (GeneT95 @ Sep 18 2016, 10:46 PM) *
Some ideas for the collab. Tried to play along with the song and vocals. Will get to video and files later.

(Edit : I rebalance my parts. I had them too loud at first. They may still be too loud.)
https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/daddionirvana2


Lots of cool ideas here - I think you did the right thing to record with my vocals as a reference - as everything usually revolves around the vocals. So we are much more likely to use your lines if they work with the vocals.

QUOTE (Wyverex @ Sep 10 2016, 08:41 PM) *
Ok here's my attempt at this. The tremolo picking is a bit shaky, so maybe you want to cut those parts. It was a good exercise though since I didn't knew I could actually pick at this speed biggrin.gif

Sorry for the noisy picture. I'm still trying to find the best workflow for video recording.

https://soundcloud.com/user-45599409/nirvana-collab-mix

https://soundcloud.com/user-45599409/nirvana-collab-guitar



Thanks! @Gab maybe try adding some crazier Cobain effects/vst on this take?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 20 2016, 01:37 AM

QUOTE (GeneT95 @ Sep 18 2016, 05:46 PM) *
Some ideas for the collab. Tried to play along with the song and vocals. Will get to video and files later.

(Edit : I rebalance my parts. I had them too loud at first. They may still be too loud.)
https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/daddionirvana2



That's exactly what the song was needing!! Amazing job man!! Thanks! smile.gif

Please share the only guitar take and the video!

Posted by: GeneT95 Sep 20 2016, 03:21 AM

Thanks Gab. I appreciate it. I'll get to it the next two nights as I have some free time after work.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 21 2016, 02:45 PM

QUOTE (GeneT95 @ Sep 19 2016, 11:21 PM) *
Thanks Gab. I appreciate it. I'll get to it the next two nights as I have some free time after work.


Ok! Thanks!

Posted by: Sensible Jones Sep 21 2016, 06:15 PM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Sep 19 2016, 08:15 AM) *
Cool! Over-all these bass lines felt really groovy. There are some problems though, namely the first note as it's not on time and might be tricky for Gab to fix.

Thanks Kris, I know, I kept missing that first beat for some reason! I did ask Gab if he wanted me to re-do it but he hasn't said so as yet so not sure if he managed to slice it up to suit.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 22 2016, 11:11 AM

Here is my video! The idea was to fit in other takes on my right and left side.

I also did some extra goofing around at the end in case you need some extra shots to add some spice.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5415283/nirvana-collab-kris-vocals.mp4

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Sep 21 2016, 07:15 PM) *
Thanks Kris, I know, I kept missing that first beat for some reason! I did ask Gab if he wanted me to re-do it but he hasn't said so as yet so not sure if he managed to slice it up to suit.


Ok - shouldn't be a problem then! Can't wait to hear how this one will turn out biggrin.gif

Posted by: GeneT95 Sep 24 2016, 01:23 AM

Alright. Here is a vid with All, including vocals and then one just guitar. It was a pain. It was so off the cuff and I did it once before bed that when I came back to vid it today I had a lot of difficulty figuring out what the hell I did for one section. Darn my poor skill. Anyway, I decided to ape my way thru that part. I just couldn't find a suitable line.

I suck at video'ing........I did this different out of Ableton live then usual. Don't really like how IMovie fiddled with the balance of the audio so added the audio only from Live on the bottom. Maybe Gab and even it out.

All



Guitar Only.



All Audio from Ableton Live

https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/daddionirvana2

Guitar only from Ableton

https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/daddionirvaguit

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 24 2016, 11:24 PM

Awesome Gene! Thanks a lot for the video mate. This one will be killer! smile.gif

Posted by: Sensible Jones Sep 25 2016, 04:25 PM

Will have mine up tomorrow Gab, sorry for being a bit late!!
smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 26 2016, 04:50 PM

I'm mixing this one guys, and we have some more room for short solos. Anybody interested?


Posted by: Phil66 Sep 26 2016, 09:13 PM

Hello Gab,

I shouldn't have done this really with my deadline so close. It took five minutes to record then my card reader failed mad.gif I had to hunt out the proprietary cables for the camcorder to get the video onto my PC so lost lots of valuable time mad.gif

Anyway, here is the video. It's only a short simple solo made up of 4 notes. Please excuse the freaky vibrato at the end, I always go weird on vibrato when it's a fast track laugh.gif



In https://1drv.ms/f/s!Ap09zsLCowi5iLdGzCYunGDkQHv7kg folder is the MP4, the guitar with backing, guitar only but with silence at the beginning so if you line it up with the backing at the start the guitar will come in at the same point as the video and a guitar only track. There is also a zip file in there with everything in.

Hopes it's usable smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 27 2016, 11:52 AM

Hey Phil!! What a surprise mate! That's exactly what we are needing on this one! short and consistent ideas to make the final mix cooler! Thanks a lot friend.

I'll be sharing a mix soon in order to invite more students to join. So if you were planning to record any idea over this one, you are still in time!


Posted by: Sensible Jones Sep 27 2016, 01:38 PM

Will have mine up in a few hours Gab. Was in Hospital yesterday for longer than I thought I would be so didn't get a chance to record.

Posted by: Phil66 Sep 27 2016, 08:17 PM

OK Gab, here's another little go. Just simple stuff again.

Here is the youtube video, all of the Take 2 stuff is in the same Soundcloud folder as the previous link wink.gif

Hope you can use it. Off to practise now as I'm getting behind again doing this Nirvana stuff biggrin.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTst0okrNPI


Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 28 2016, 02:53 AM

Thanks again Phil!! I'll add you in the next mix!


Here I have a Mix in progress version:  Nirvana_Collab_mix_3.mp3 ( 4.2MB ) : 94



Please check it out and let me know what you think!


We've decided to extend the deadline to invite more students to participate! Feel free to record yourself playing something cool over this one.

Here are some ideas:



- Learn the main riff and play it. Tab to learn it:  Nirvana_Collab.gp5 ( 9.58K ) : 78

- A solo or arrangement. Use this instrumental version:  Nirvana_Collab_Instrumental.mp3 ( 1.68MB ) : 76

- Some noises or bends here and there.
- Backing vocals.

Posted by: bleez Sep 28 2016, 08:29 AM

Ive not been able to come up with anything that didnt suck dry.gif
if it's still open tonight I'll have another go.

Posted by: Wyverex Sep 28 2016, 08:41 AM

This will be another killer track! I think you nailed the Nirvana spirit there happy.gif

Posted by: Sensible Jones Sep 28 2016, 04:01 PM

Here's mine Gab:-
https://soundcloud.com/neilwaller/nirv-collab-2-bt
https://soundcloud.com/neilwaller/nirv-collab-2-nbt
Unfortunately I can't do a Video! Since upgrading to Win10 my Webcam has stopped working! I've been on their site and D/Loaded the new Drivers but I keep getting a 'Launcher_Main.exe failure' message every time I try to do anything!
mad.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 28 2016, 07:55 PM

Hi mate! Thanks a lot for the audio!! What about doing a simple vid with your cellphone? You can send it directly from it via email or something like that.

If that's not possible please share a pic.

Posted by: GeneT95 Sep 28 2016, 10:36 PM

Pretty cool mix already. If I've time, I may play around with it too and practice adding flourishes here or there with the new structure.

Posted by: Sensible Jones Sep 29 2016, 11:06 AM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 28 2016, 07:55 PM) *
Hi mate! Thanks a lot for the audio!! What about doing a simple vid with your cellphone? You can send it directly from it via email or something like that.

If that's not possible please share a pic.

Good thinking Gab!! I shall try to do something later today!!
Just remembered, I have one of those 'Flip' cameras around here somewhere, will see if I can find it!!
smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 29 2016, 03:27 PM

QUOTE (GeneT95 @ Sep 28 2016, 06:36 PM) *
Pretty cool mix already. If I've time, I may play around with it too and practice adding flourishes here or there with the new structure.


Cool! Feel free to do it! smile.gif

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Sep 29 2016, 07:06 AM) *
Good thinking Gab!! I shall try to do something later today!!
Just remembered, I have one of those 'Flip' cameras around here somewhere, will see if I can find it!!
smile.gif



Great!! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Sensible Jones Sep 29 2016, 08:04 PM

Found the 'Flip'!! Just need to charge it up and record, so will have something posted tomorrow morning Gab!!
smile.gif

Posted by: Sensible Jones Sep 30 2016, 04:42 PM

Here you are Gab.
I forgot to edit out the ambient noise though, is that a problem or do you want me to redo it?

biggrin.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 30 2016, 07:52 PM

The video is perfect! Thanks a lot! smile.gif

Posted by: Sensible Jones Oct 1 2016, 03:31 PM

No worries Gab!
Looking forward to the finished mix now!!
biggrin.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 5 2016, 08:52 PM

Just a quick note to say that I'm finishing the video and it's totally awesome. Great job everybody!!

Posted by: Wyverex Oct 5 2016, 09:48 PM

Great! Can't wait to hear it! smile.gif

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 6 2016, 08:36 AM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 5 2016, 09:52 PM) *
Just a quick note to say that I'm finishing the video and it's totally awesome. Great job everybody!!


Well I can only agree - you guys have completely outdone yourselves. The guitar lines here feel as if taken from a Nirvana album - yet they are original!!!!! ohmy.gif

Sit back and be blown away:


Posted by: Phil66 Oct 6 2016, 12:02 PM

Brilliant. Well done everyone and thanks for joining in. Mighty vocals and an awesome mix and video, thank you Kris and Gab. smile.gif

Posted by: Monica Gheorghevici Oct 6 2016, 12:32 PM

Wow...that was awesome guys!!! Congrats for everyone involved and special congrats for Kris (he knows why wink.gif ) smile.gif
Great mixing job Gab!!! smile.gif

Posted by: Wyverex Oct 6 2016, 12:46 PM

Awesome! As Kris said, really feels like coming directly from a Nirvana album. Great work everybody! smile.gif

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 6 2016, 12:58 PM

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: chris4 Oct 6 2016, 02:59 PM

Great !!!

Posted by: Sensible Jones Oct 6 2016, 03:02 PM

Wow!!! How cool is that??? biggrin.gif
Great job everyone, especially Kris and Gab!!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 6 2016, 03:16 PM

Thanks and congrats guys!! I'm amazed of the great guitar ideas that you've provided to make this one. It was tricky to build because each idea was killer, so at the same time the mix and video edition has been a very fun process.

Thanks a lot!!!!!

Posted by: GeneT95 Oct 6 2016, 10:23 PM

That was fun..........great comp.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Oct 7 2016, 04:07 AM

Another killer job! SUPER CONGRATS to everyone and very well done to Kris in particular for the Lyrics.

Todd

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Oct 6 2016, 03:36 AM) *
Well I can only agree - you guys have completely outdone yourselves. The guitar lines here feel as if taken from a Nirvana album - yet they are original!!!!! ohmy.gif

Sit back and be blown away:



Posted by: Daeron Oct 7 2016, 09:53 PM

The video and the music are awesome ! Congratulations to all, folks ! smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 10 2016, 01:24 PM

Thanks guys! The new collab is coming... smile.gif

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