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enlo22 View Member Profile	Dec 19 2012, 09:57 AM
Dec 19 2012, 09:57 AM	Learning Guitar Hero Posts: 453 Joined: 24-December 11	So a friend of mine recently got a mic called Yeti and we used it over something i had made, but we had problems mixing it to sound just right. the vocals are meant to sound "crazy" or more or less guttural but not so much as newer bands etc.. more of an old school death metal sound.. I just want to record the voice as is which is what we did here, just having problems mixing it. I was wondering on tips to fix/critiques.. https://soundcloud.com/enlo22/nostalgic-dead-and-endless You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Guitar videos

ConnorGilks View Member Profile	Dec 19 2012, 10:27 AM
Dec 19 2012, 10:27 AM	GMC:er Posts: 230 Joined: 1-December 12 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada	I hate to be that guy, and I'm almost never that guy that says "It's your gear", but in this case it definitely is your gear. Well, for a big part of it. USB microphones like that will not get the results you want, get a real microphone with an XLR input and a good audio interface and you'll be much happier with the results. A large diaphragm microphone would be a good choice, even a cheap MXL 990. I use a Rode NT1-A personally. After that, if you're recording cleans get a pop filter and use some compression to make it "sit right", and reverb or delay to create some space, separation and make it a bit more "real" sounding. For screams make sure to get the singer to take a step back to clean them up a bit and make them less bassy. Growls are the same, but some people record them with a very directional mic pointed at their mouth, fairly close. Find what works for you. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- www.connorgilks.com

Patrik Berg View Member Profile	Dec 19 2012, 10:28 AM
Dec 19 2012, 10:28 AM	GMC:er Posts: 497 Joined: 5-December 11 From: Australia	That sounds awesome, great song man, personally i would pull the vocals down by a small amount and add just a little bit of reverb to them or a delay that is barely audibl. But great track anyway. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Patrik Berg: Dec 19 2012, 10:29 AM -------------------- When your fingers bleed you're getting somewhere

Ben Higgins View Member Profile	Dec 19 2012, 11:26 AM
Dec 19 2012, 11:26 AM	Instructor Posts: 13.792 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England	Great tips so far. Only thing I'd add is you might want to apply a Hi-Pass filter to the vox.. this is basically a low end cut which gets rid of any excess/needless boomy frequencies. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Lessons My Youtube Channel My Band

Gabriel Leopardi View Member Profile	Dec 19 2012, 02:52 PM
Dec 19 2012, 02:52 PM	Instructor Posts: 36.043 Joined: 3-March 07 From: Argentina	Connor's post is very useful! Adding some effects (delay, reverb) and maybe recording another track of the voice doing the same could really help. We used to do that with Lian Gerbino when we recorded some of his music and the GMC hits "Where is Santa" and "Samhain: One Celtic Night". You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons Do you need a Guitar Plan? Join Gab's Army Check my band:Cirse Check my soundcloud:Soundcloud Please subscribe to my:Youtube Channel

enlo22 View Member Profile	Dec 19 2012, 08:30 PM
Dec 19 2012, 08:30 PM	Learning Guitar Hero Posts: 453 Joined: 24-December 11	QUOTE (ConnorGilks @ Dec 19 2012, 09:27 AM) I hate to be that guy, and I'm almost never that guy that says "It's your gear", but in this case it definitely is your gear. Well, for a big part of it. USB microphones like that will not get the results you want, get a real microphone with an XLR input and a good audio interface and you'll be much happier with the results. A large diaphragm microphone would be a good choice, even a cheap MXL 990. I use a Rode NT1-A personally. After that, if you're recording cleans get a pop filter and use some compression to make it "sit right", and reverb or delay to create some space, separation and make it a bit more "real" sounding. For screams make sure to get the singer to take a step back to clean them up a bit and make them less bassy. Growls are the same, but some people record them with a very directional mic pointed at their mouth, fairly close. Find what works for you. Alright, thanks man, I was wondering what a large diaphragm microhone? sorry i'm new at this. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Guitar videos

Todd Simpson View Member Profile	Dec 20 2012, 12:37 AM
Dec 20 2012, 12:37 AM	GMC:er Posts: 25.297 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA	Here is a pic of the microphone in question. I've got one of these and they are really worth it. You can get one for about 50 Euro @ any music store online typically. http://www.mxlmics.com/microphones/900-series/990/ QUOTE (enlo22 @ Dec 19 2012, 02:30 PM) Alright, thanks man, I was wondering what a large diaphragm microhone? sorry i'm new at this. The YETI is perhaps not your best choice for vocal recording. As was mentioned, the MXL 990 is a great choice any home studio. It does require "Phantom Power" which is provided by your audio interface. Assuming of course, you have an audio interface. There are some really handy, really cheap audio interface devices that will let you use real mics. For example, the BLUE ICICLE (about $35 U.S)' You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Dec 20 2012, 12:38 AM -------------------- EVERY QUICK LICK! http://bit.ly/quicklickswithtodd MY INSTRUCTOR FORUM MY SHRED JOURNEY (BOOTCAMP) LESSON NOTES/TABS MY INSTRUCTOR PROFILE @ GMC ME @ YOUTUBE.com ME @ Instagram.com ME @ TWITTER

enlo22 View Member Profile	Jan 8 2013, 09:20 AM
Jan 8 2013, 09:20 AM	Learning Guitar Hero Posts: 453 Joined: 24-December 11	Sorry to revive this thread, BUT i saw that musicians friend is having a mic for sale called Mxl 910 .... I was wondering if this would work! hopefully someone replies soon, because i was liking the 990 but if this is better for what i need it for and it's cheaper for one day I would like to take advantage! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Guitar videos

Gabriel Leopardi View Member Profile	Jan 8 2013, 03:29 PM
Jan 8 2013, 03:29 PM	Instructor Posts: 36.043 Joined: 3-March 07 From: Argentina	Talking about metal vocals, let's me add this mic that it's very used for powerful voices... I have seen singers like Corey Taylor and even Hayley Williams using it... Please check this video: You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons Do you need a Guitar Plan? Join Gab's Army Check my band:Cirse Check my soundcloud:Soundcloud Please subscribe to my:Youtube Channel

Todd Simpson View Member Profile	Jan 8 2013, 08:21 PM
Jan 8 2013, 08:21 PM	GMC:er Posts: 25.297 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA	It's a FINE mic!!!! Make sure to pay about HALF of the retail price if possible. Todd QUOTE (enlo22 @ Jan 8 2013, 03:20 AM) Sorry to revive this thread, BUT i saw that musicians friend is having a mic for sale called Mxl 910 .... I was wondering if this would work! hopefully someone replies soon, because i was liking the 990 but if this is better for what i need it for and it's cheaper for one day I would like to take advantage! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- EVERY QUICK LICK! http://bit.ly/quicklickswithtodd MY INSTRUCTOR FORUM MY SHRED JOURNEY (BOOTCAMP) LESSON NOTES/TABS MY INSTRUCTOR PROFILE @ GMC ME @ YOUTUBE.com ME @ Instagram.com ME @ TWITTER

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Jan 9 2013, 12:55 PM
Jan 9 2013, 12:55 PM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	Unfortunately the SC link is not available anymore You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

The Uncreator View Member Profile	Jan 10 2013, 12:40 AM
Jan 10 2013, 12:40 AM	Fire Up The Blades, Moderator Posts: 8.933 Joined: 6-March 07 From: St. Petersburg, Florida	As a general rule mixing metal vocals like that, and this is just a general rule I've learned mixing vocals - is that with growls/screams, most everything below 130-150hz is garbage, and can be cut, giving the vocals plenty of room and breath in the mix. A nice room reverb always adds a nice feel, and recording yourself multiple times helps create a solid, full sound. I had a vocalist on my album who sent me 20 layers of vocals, divided into four layers for each section of specific verses. Its a lot of work but the end product is amazing. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Jan 10 2013, 09:03 AM
Jan 10 2013, 09:03 AM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Jan 9 2013, 11:40 PM) As a general rule mixing metal vocals like that, and this is just a general rule I've learned mixing vocals - is that with growls/screams, most everything below 130-150hz is garbage, and can be cut, giving the vocals plenty of room and breath in the mix. A nice room reverb always adds a nice feel, and recording yourself multiple times helps create a solid, full sound. I had a vocalist on my album who sent me 20 layers of vocals, divided into four layers for each section of specific verses. Its a lot of work but the end product is amazing. I agree with this - it's the way we have done things with our EP. I have recorded my voice twice for each line - main or backing. It always sounds fuller and stronger. Although, when doing this, the greatest nemesis were the note lengths - sometimes it seemed so darn difficult to stop the phrase at the exact same moment and with the exact same intensity as the first one I recorded. I guess it only comes with experience You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

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