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Posted by: Todd Simpson Jul 29 2013, 07:13 PM

Here is a breakdown of Dimes stage rig from back in the day. Notice the last stack has 15 INCH DRIVERS!!! smile.gif NICE!!!

*P.S. The secret sauce (beyond his fingers) to his tone and many other folks is the legendary FURMAN PQ-3.

The PQ-3 is a Parametric E.Q. (worth a google if you don't know what parametric e.q. entails) that comes right after the guitar. It's the super secret sauce to tone shaping. The signal you give to an amp/processor determines in large part how it will sound. So depending on what you give it, (whats cut out, what's not, by the e.q.) it can have dramatic impact on your tone.

EQ on an amp is one thing. EQ before the signal hits the amp is the Black Art of truly Evil tone smile.gif


Posted by: Todd Simpson Jul 31 2013, 04:55 AM

Anyone ever get the chance to play one of the WARHEAD stacks?

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 29 2013, 02:13 PM) *
Here is a breakdown of Dimes stage rig from back in the day. Notice the last stack has 15 INCH DRIVERS!!! smile.gif NICE!!!

*P.S. The secret sauce (beyond his fingers) to his tone and many other folks is the legendary FURMAN PQ-3.

The PQ-3 is a Parametric E.Q. (worth a google if you don't know what parametric e.q. entails) that comes right after the guitar. It's the super secret sauce to tone shaping. The signal you give to an amp/processor determines in large part how it will sound. So depending on what you give it, (whats cut out, what's not, by the e.q.) it can have dramatic impact on your tone.

EQ on an amp is one thing. EQ before the signal hits the amp is the Black Art of truly Evil tone smile.gif



Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 31 2013, 08:30 AM

Hey Todd - nice of you to share this - it looks like a fairly simple pedalboard, right?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 31 2013, 02:35 PM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 31 2013, 12:55 AM) *
Anyone ever get the chance to play one of the WARHEAD stacks?



No I don't. Even I haven't tried using an EQ like that before my amp, sounds like a good idea at least to try. I wonder what happens if I experiment connecting my guitar to my computer, use some good EQ plug ing the connect my soundcard to a reamp to finally connect it to my amp... just to experiment what results I can get...

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jul 31 2013, 10:35 PM

Simple as it gets!! Two WAH pedals and thats about it smile.gif No chorus/delay/etc.

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jul 31 2013, 03:30 AM) *
Hey Todd - nice of you to share this - it looks like a fairly simple pedalboard, right?


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 1 2013, 08:00 AM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 31 2013, 09:35 PM) *
Simple as it gets!! Two WAH pedals and thats about it smile.gif No chorus/delay/etc.


It's actually one wah and two whammys, but why 2?

Posted by: Darius Wave Aug 1 2013, 01:57 PM

I would take it for free If You add 4 techs to transport this smile.gif))

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 1 2013, 03:20 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Aug 1 2013, 04:00 AM) *
It's actually one wah and two whammys, but why 2?



I think that he used different settings and as it can't be programmed he decided to have two of them.

Posted by: SixStringSamurai Aug 1 2013, 04:36 PM

Ahh I love me a good Dimebag gear discussion.

They're missing an integral part of his tone - an MXR Flanger/Doubler.

If memory serves, he also never actually used the Warhead Mk I - he may have used the much rarer and more respected X2, though. I've ALWAYS wanted to get my hands on one of those... definitely a bucketlist amp for me.


Posted by: Todd Simpson Aug 2 2013, 05:26 AM

This was taken from his guitar tech from a very early tour, not from dime himself so I"m guessing there are bits out of place, I was really just sharing it cause I though it was cool smile.gif Not historically accurate. In particular, I love how he used to use the cabinets with 15 in drivers in them as well as 4x12s. He was way ahead of his time with that.

Here is a pick of Dime using the warhead 1 live. So he did use them breifly for live work. But I think he switched to the x2 as soon as they were built.




QUOTE (SixStringSamurai @ Aug 1 2013, 11:36 AM) *
Ahh I love me a good Dimebag gear discussion.

They're missing an integral part of his tone - an MXR Flanger/Doubler.

If memory serves, he also never actually used the Warhead Mk I - he may have used the much rarer and more respected X2, though. I've ALWAYS wanted to get my hands on one of those... definitely a bucketlist amp for me.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 2 2013, 08:00 AM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 1 2013, 02:20 PM) *
I think that he used different settings and as it can't be programmed he decided to have two of them.


Right! How come I haven't thought about that biggrin.gif

Posted by: Slavenko Erazer Aug 5 2013, 11:22 AM

I like this Washburn Culprit...More than his Dean Guitars smile.gif

Posted by: Todd Simpson Aug 6 2013, 06:21 AM

Some of those old washburns are awesome smile.gif I still want the greenburst stealth!

QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Aug 5 2013, 06:22 AM) *
I like this Washburn Culprit...More than his Dean Guitars smile.gif


Posted by: SixStringSamurai Aug 7 2013, 09:53 AM

Washburn Dime 3 in Dimeslime, Southern Cross and Stealth are probably on my list of holy grail guitars...

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 8 2013, 07:21 AM

QUOTE (SixStringSamurai @ Aug 7 2013, 08:53 AM) *
Washburn Dime 3 in Dimeslime, Southern Cross and Stealth are probably on my list of holy grail guitars...


I may be a big Dime fan, but the shape of those guitars is a bit too much for me - Pantera sounds great on a PRS biggrin.gif

Posted by: SixStringSamurai Aug 9 2013, 10:04 PM

Haha yeah I probably wouldn't gig pointies any more (though I used to when I was younger, haha) - still would be nice to have in the collection! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Todd Simpson Aug 9 2013, 10:56 PM

The age old question. To gig somewhat silly looking pointies or to keep them in ones collection just for love of having them around. hmmm. I'll be the first to admit these guitars are a bit over the top smile.gif But that's part of their charm. I started buying wacky shapes a bit back and got in to before I even realized. Next thing I knew I had an Ibanez Xiphos and several Dean Dime guitars. I ended up selling most of them actually, but I did keep the razorback to modify. smile.gif

QUOTE (SixStringSamurai @ Aug 9 2013, 05:04 PM) *
Haha yeah I probably wouldn't gig pointies any more (though I used to when I was younger, haha) - still would be nice to have in the collection! biggrin.gif


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 10 2013, 08:14 AM

As I think I said before - my first electric guitar, was a copy of a Randy Rhoads Flying V - a very pointy guitar laugh.gif

Posted by: SixStringSamurai Aug 12 2013, 08:23 PM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Aug 9 2013, 09:56 PM) *
The age old question. To gig somewhat silly looking pointies or to keep them in ones collection just for love of having them around. hmmm. I'll be the first to admit these guitars are a bit over the top smile.gif But that's part of their charm. I started buying wacky shapes a bit back and got in to before I even realized. Next thing I knew I had an Ibanez Xiphos and several Dean Dime guitars. I ended up selling most of them actually, but I did keep the razorback to modify. smile.gif


Heh, yeah I started off as a brash teenager ONLY playing LPs (loved Slash) or pointy guitars. For years I wouldn't buy it unless it was a non-traditional shape!

I've pretty much moved away from them completely these days... but one day when I'm middle aged and hopefully have more $$$ to play with, I can see myself buying a whole stack of pointy things just for the nostalgia factor.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 13 2013, 07:48 AM

I am a minimalist tongue.gif Couldn't collect anything I am not using - strange though, but I figured this out along the way. I simply can't buy things anymore, if they aren't useful to me..

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Aug 30 2013, 09:32 AM

I think these V shaped guitars are truly made for stage and the wacky looks. Suppose there are no hidden qualities in the crazy shape (or lack?) of wood? smile.gif

Remember my first gig, we were playing a Nightwish tribute set and input jack got broken on the guitar of my friend. He needed to quickly borrow a new guitar as the show was just starting. Some (out of all the possible guitars), brought out the one which was pointy and V shaped..... smile.gif When you look at the video of the gig, he instantly got the upgrade of performance smile.gif

Posted by: Todd Simpson Aug 30 2013, 05:38 PM

Believe it or not, there is actually a point to that crazy shape smile.gif The guitar is designed using a very large chunk of wood to increase the amount of resonance (according to the original builder). I have owned a few of these DIME ML shaped guitars and I must say they are big and HEAVY and do provide really good sustain and resonance. The pickups are hard mounted as you can see which also adds to the effect.

The Gibson Explorer benefited from the same idea which is what influenced the design of the ML. The extended body behind the bridge should, at least in theory, provide space for the sound to resonate in the wood and travel to the pickups through the hard mounted pickups. Of course lots of folks say this is pure BUNK BUNK BUNK and that such shapes are purely for looks. smile.gif Personally I'd say there is a bit of truth in both viewpoints smile.gif

Here is a quote with some info on the sustain idea.

"The mass of the guitar is spread out over a wider area than most guitars in order to maximize sustain. The "V"-shaped headstock and "string-through-body" design are also used to increase sustain and improve tone.":


DEAN is back making custom guitars with new textured neck design. He only sells direct and mostly strats/LP shapes. The prices are quite good around $500 and they look spiff. I've not played one though.

Todd





QUOTE (Bogdan Radovic @ Aug 30 2013, 04:32 AM) *
I think these V shaped guitars are truly made for stage and the wacky looks. Suppose there are no hidden qualities in the crazy shape (or lack?) of wood? smile.gif

Remember my first gig, we were playing a Nightwish tribute set and input jack got broken on the guitar of my friend. He needed to quickly borrow a new guitar as the show was just starting. Some (out of all the possible guitars), brought out the one which was pointy and V shaped..... smile.gif When you look at the video of the gig, he instantly got the upgrade of performance smile.gif


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