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GMC Forum _ GEAR & PRODUCTION _ Great Recording Tips From Ryan Bruce

Posted by: Todd Simpson Dec 29 2015, 11:16 PM

If you don't have a subwoofer, you can do what he does and simply apply a filter (hig pass filter set to the lowest frequency your speakers can reproduce) and just cut off the rest. That way you are not guessing at the bits you can't hear. This is a controversial approach, especially with traditionalists. But, it works. smile.gif if you have a sub, remember to cut the sub off now and then to see what your mix sounds like without it. Here is the vid.


Posted by: Mertay Dec 29 2015, 11:39 PM

I do remember 40hz was too much a few times related to the slope of the filter (the cut always starts a bit higher than the given freq.) but yeah 30hz can be safe for todays sounds.

Posted by: Rammikin Dec 30 2015, 04:40 PM

It's always a good idea to filter out low frequencies that you can't hear (or that the intended listener won't hear). Otherwise audio at those frequencies is needlessly robbing you of headroom in your mix. But that's unrelated to whether you mix with a subwoofer or not, and, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he's saying it is related.

In other words, he's saying 1) he doesn't like mixing with a subwoofer because his monitors are good enough that he doesn't need one. As for why his mixes were messed up when used one, he doesn't really say why that happened, but in a properly configured studio, and a properly checked mix, that shouldn't have happened. And, he makes statement 2): he's saying he puts a high pass filter around 40 Hz on his mixes. But I don't think he meant to imply those 2 statements are connected, and it wouldn't make sense to do so.

On the other hand, it's obviously a good idea to check your mixes in a variety of listening environments which lack the flat and wide frequency response of your studio so you can make sure it will sound good to the listener when they're listening on earbuds smile.gif.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Dec 31 2015, 11:55 PM

He does say that he trims the low frequencies, as he can't in fact hear them below a certain point due to his playback system not having a sub. If you mix on a system that stops about 60hz, then adding a filter to trim out the low low stuff say below 40hz makes sense as you are guessing what's happening down there otherwise. sad.gif

QUOTE (Rammikin @ Dec 30 2015, 10:40 AM) *
It's always a good idea to filter out low frequencies that you can't hear (or that the intended listener won't hear). Otherwise audio at those frequencies is needlessly robbing you of headroom in your mix. But that's unrelated to whether you mix with a subwoofer or not, and, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he's saying it is related.

In other words, he's saying 1) he doesn't like mixing with a subwoofer because his monitors are good enough that he doesn't need one. As for why his mixes were messed up when used one, he doesn't really say why that happened, but in a properly configured studio, and a properly checked mix, that shouldn't have happened. And, he makes statement 2): he's saying he puts a high pass filter around 40 Hz on his mixes. But I don't think he meant to imply those 2 statements are connected, and it wouldn't make sense to do so.

On the other hand, it's obviously a good idea to check your mixes in a variety of listening environments which lack the flat and wide frequency response of your studio so you can make sure it will sound good to the listener when they're listening on earbuds smile.gif.


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