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Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 18 2017, 03:47 PM

Who had more impact in Rock Guitar? Do you think that the answer is on this image?



Why? Why not?

Posted by: Sensible Jones Aug 18 2017, 04:53 PM


Posted by: klasaine Aug 18 2017, 08:40 PM

Robert Johnson definitely set us, both Americans and Britons on the R&R war path and if it wasn't for him Hendrix may not have played the way he did.

And then ...

Jimi Hendrix completely changed the way EVERYONE who plays a guitar - regardless of style - now plays a guitar. You can't overestimate it. None of the other 3 in the pic would play or even approach a guitar the way they do w/o Hendrix before them. Even newbies who don't know who he is and may never even listen to JH are influenced and affected by him. There's no way around it. Besides guitar, JH was a full blown cultural revolution just by himself.
JH is to rock and pop as Charlie Parker is to Jazz and Mozart is to Classical music. ALL that follows them is/was dependent on them.

*I not a Hendrix fanatic at all. I didn't learn a ton of JH licks and I barely listen to him anymore and I try not to play like him but I do acknowledge his preeminence. To anyone who doubts his relevance and influence, I recommend these two volumes ...
https://www.amazon.com/Crosstown-Traffic-Hendrix-Post-War-Revolution/dp/0312063245
https://www.amazon.com/Hendrix-Setting-Straight-Edward-Kramer/dp/0446394319/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1503086009&sr=1-1&keywords=hendrix+setting+the+record+straight

Posted by: Phil66 Aug 18 2017, 10:40 PM

Mr Johnson all the way.

If I was on a desert island and only allowed one album it would be https://www.discogs.com/Robert-Johnson-The-Complete-Recordings/master/102666

Some of his work sounds like there are two guitarists in the room.

Awesome

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 19 2017, 07:16 PM

QUOTE (klasaine @ Aug 18 2017, 04:40 PM) *
Robert Johnson definitely set us, both Americans and Britons on the R&R war path and if it wasn't for him Hendrix may not have played the way he did.

And then ...

Jimi Hendrix completely changed the way EVERYONE who plays a guitar - regardless of style - now plays a guitar. You can't overestimate it. None of the other 3 in the pic would play or even approach a guitar the way they do w/o Hendrix before them. Even newbies who don't know who he is and may never even listen to JH are influenced and affected by him. There's no way around it. Besides guitar, JH was a full blown cultural revolution just by himself.
JH is to rock and pop as Charlie Parker is to Jazz and Mozart is to Classical music. ALL that follows them is/was dependent on them.

*I not a Hendrix fanatic at all. I didn't learn a ton of JH licks and I barely listen to him anymore and I try not to play like him but I do acknowledge his preeminence. To anyone who doubts his relevance and influence, I recommend these two volumes ...
https://www.amazon.com/Crosstown-Traffic-Hendrix-Post-War-Revolution/dp/0312063245
https://www.amazon.com/Hendrix-Setting-Straight-Edward-Kramer/dp/0446394319/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1503086009&sr=1-1&keywords=hendrix+setting+the+record+straight



Thanks for the links! I haven't seen these ones so I'll do. My answer is also Hendrix, but I'll get more into Robert Johnson to know his impact. Any cool documental or movie to see about him?


Posted by: Phil66 Aug 19 2017, 11:03 PM

Gab there is a brilliant documentary, hosted by John Hammond, son of record producer John H Hammond who booked Robert Johnson for the Spirituals To Swing concert at the Carnegie Hall but he had died before the gig.

In the documentary, John Hammond plays Love I'm Vain to Willie Mae Powell, an old lady, she is the woman he calls out to in the last verse of the song, it's a very poignant moment.

I can't find it on YouTube but it's available on DVD, I have a copy. Here are a couple of trailers for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYe7TZHuZ7s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHiyQbdABDQ


Enjoy

Phil smile.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 21 2017, 04:07 PM

Great stuff Phil, I'll get into it. Thanks a lot! smile.gif

Posted by: Phil66 Aug 21 2017, 08:38 PM

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http://www.robertjohnsonbluesfoundation.org/

http://www.deltabluesmuseum.org/ (Read the top right corner underneath the two road signs wink.gif

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/searching-for-robert-johnson-peter-guralnick/1113011446

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 22 2017, 12:31 AM

You rock friend. smile.gif

Posted by: Sensible Jones Aug 22 2017, 12:52 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 19 2017, 11:03 PM) *
I can't find it on YouTube but it's available on DVD, I have a copy. Here are a couple of trailers for it.

I still have it on VHS!!!
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Posted by: jstcrsn Aug 22 2017, 01:20 PM

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Aug 22 2017, 12:52 PM) *
I still have it on VHS!!!
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now all you need is someone that has a ( working ) vcr and you can watch it

Posted by: Sensible Jones Aug 22 2017, 01:51 PM

QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Aug 22 2017, 01:20 PM) *
now all you need is someone that has a ( working ) vcr and you can watch it

Oh, I has one of them that works! It sits right on top of my Laserdisc player!!
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Posted by: Phil66 Aug 22 2017, 07:54 PM

I still have a betamax somewhere in the attic smile.gif

Posted by: Sensible Jones Aug 22 2017, 09:27 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 22 2017, 07:54 PM) *
I still have a betamax somewhere in the attic smile.gif

Cool!! Between my Brothers and I, we have amassed quite a collection of all sorts of Electronics!Up until i started Recorng on the PC my Studio was based around a DAT machine and a Mini-disc all via a hard-wired Desk!
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Posted by: Phil66 Aug 24 2017, 11:30 PM

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Posted by: klasaine Aug 25 2017, 02:45 PM

My car stereo has gone dead except for the cassette player. I'm glad I kept a box of them.

Posted by: Sensible Jones Aug 27 2017, 06:08 PM

Well, there we have it.
The proof that this discussion shouldn't be about who influenced who the most but the important point of what equipment was used to listen to the Music in the first place!!!
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Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Aug 29 2017, 02:27 PM

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Aug 27 2017, 02:08 PM) *
Well, there we have it.
The proof that this discussion shouldn't be about who influenced who the most but the important point of what equipment was used to listen to the Music in the first place!!!
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haha that would be an interesting topic for a thread.

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