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Phil66
post Feb 25 2019, 08:53 PM
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Yeah thanks Rich,

I'm trying to break my habit of rushing and am not letting Gab reveal things as we progress. I tend to look into things too much and end up scrambling my brain so I now wiat for all to be revealed. It's hard though but it is helping with my patience wink.gif

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Unbelievable! D string getting me again mad.gif

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Thinking in the early hours, when I first tried the index snugly against the fret and it worked it was Sunday evening. Last night when I was having trouble, it was after doing manual work for nine hours. I'm wondering if it's a stamina/fatigue thing.

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post Mar 8 2019, 10:08 AM
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Well I thought I'd cracked it.
Wednesday night I played the chord shape up at the 12th fret and worked down to the 3rd fret. Did it a few times and it got better reach time.
Last night I tried again and the muted D string was back.
I just don't know what to do, surely it should take this long to nail ONE chord? sad.gif

I am actually having bad dreams about it, last night my fingers turned into twigs and I could play at all, there have been other dreams too, I always wake up really frustrated. As crazy as they are, dreams are real when you're having them wacko.gif

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I've just remembered that the first time I tried working down from the 12th fret was with my Ibanez RG1570 and the second time, when I couldn't do it, was with my SRV Strat. Maybe I should stick to the Ibanez sad.gif until I nail it on that guitar and then progress to the SRV smile.gif what do you think?

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post Mar 11 2019, 03:41 AM
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The Ibby neck is nice and thin to be sure and doesn't have the heft that the fender neck has which can sometimes get in the way a bit. It all comes down to the player of course, but yeah, I'd guess that the Ibby neck may be a better way to get used to playing the bit and then once you get more comfy on it you can transition to any guitar in the shed smile.gif

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Mar 8 2019, 05:08 AM) *
Well I thought I'd cracked it.
Wednesday night I played the chord shape up at the 12th fret and worked down to the 3rd fret. Did it a few times and it got better reach time.
Last night I tried again and the muted D string was back.
I just don't know what to do, surely it should take this long to nail ONE chord? sad.gif

I am actually having bad dreams about it, last night my fingers turned into twigs and I could play at all, there have been other dreams too, I always wake up really frustrated. As crazy as they are, dreams are real when you're having them wacko.gif

Phil


UPDATE:
I've just remembered that the first time I tried working down from the 12th fret was with my Ibanez RG1570 and the second time, when I couldn't do it, was with my SRV Strat. Maybe I should stick to the Ibanez sad.gif until I nail it on that guitar and then progress to the SRV smile.gif what do you think?
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post Mar 11 2019, 08:28 AM
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Thanks Todd,

I hope you're okay buddy.

I spoke to Gab and he said to practise every day on the SRV and then play on the Ibanez. Seems a good idea because at least I can get closer with the ibby so I won't feel like I'm fighting a losing battle. I think my index finger is trying to arch when I apply the other fingers so I'm concentrating on keeping it as flat as possible. E shape barre chords aren't an issue but the not barred notes are masking the issue wink.gif

This is probably the hardest thing I've ever tried to do, I actually started thinking I had some biomechanical problem that was preventing me from doing it but I've hit it clearly sometimes so I know it is possible.

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post Mar 15 2019, 02:00 PM
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Let me know if this helps?



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post Mar 15 2019, 09:40 PM
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Thank you for taking the time to do that for me Kris, much appreciated.

What is strange is that on Wednesday I could play it fine, I couldn't land on it quickly but every note rang out. I can normally only do that on my Ibanez but it was on my SRV Strat, tonight and last night I couldn't even do it on my Ibanez.

I find it hard to relax my hand because of the stretch. I think, what is happening is that when I put my pinky one the fret it is causing my index finger to arch slightly which is removing the pressure from the D string because that gets muted and it isn't my ring finger catching it.

Maybe some hand yoga is required, I've been trying to get this since December, I know it can be done because as I said, on Wednesday I could do it I just need to harness whatever was going on on Wednesday.

Here's a video of me building the chord tonight. Please excuse the grimacing facial expression biggrin.gif

https://youtu.be/0imSr8t2cxs


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post Mar 17 2019, 09:43 PM
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Further to post above,

Tonight I managed to play it a few times on the SRV. I've found bringing my elbow forward helps. It is easiest on the Ibanez, thinner neck thinner strings etc but I'm studying blues with Gab at the moment and I want to play the blues on my SRV and Tele.

I'll get there but it is a little soul destroying at the moment.

Out of interest, what's your most difficult chord and how long did it take you to get all notes ringing out consistently?

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Further to post above.

Tonight I tried on all of my guitars, 12 electric, 2 acoustic (one being a resonator). and the one I had the most success with was my cheap and cheerful Peavey Falcon II Tele, I always said it had one of the best necks I've played and everyone that has picked it up has said what a nice neck it is, it cost £125 about 25 years ago, yes that's how long I've owned guitars, many years wasted noodling though with many HUGE gaps between noodling, years in some cases, anyway, I found GMC and now things are happening albeit slowly.


Nothing to do with my playing but some info on the guitar in case you're interested. Mine is all stock though wink.gif
https://youtu.be/x0ygNnQINX8


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post Mar 23 2019, 10:02 PM
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Further to the above post, I've finally found a way to play the G7 and C7 barre chords without muting that D string, changes are very slow though, I'll have to work on the changes wink.gif .

https://youtu.be/J4o1YJ4bxI8


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Ouch I see the desperation ph34r.gif biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Mar 15 2019, 09:40 PM) *
Thank you for taking the time to do that for me Kris, much appreciated.

What is strange is that on Wednesday I could play it fine, I couldn't land on it quickly but every note rang out. I can normally only do that on my Ibanez but it was on my SRV Strat, tonight and last night I couldn't even do it on my Ibanez.

I find it hard to relax my hand because of the stretch. I think, what is happening is that when I put my pinky one the fret it is causing my index finger to arch slightly which is removing the pressure from the D string because that gets muted and it isn't my ring finger catching it.


Yeah - if I were to make a guess out of the blue, this would be my first choice.

Try the following, which is a great tension control exercise: fret the chord, gradually decrease hand pressure until no strings ring at all (your hand / arm should now be totally relaxed). Then, gradually increase finger pressure just to the point that you start hearing notes.

Try doing this for a few minutes in the beginning of your practice session, and after a week there is a chance of noticeable results.


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Thanks Kris, I'll give that a try. smile.gif


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