Make Your Guitar Sound Like A Synth, Use floor pedals four crazy sounds
ItSME3
Jun 12 2013, 04:13 PM
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I totally dig synth sounds on the guitar however never had the dough for a Roland system. I spend a considerable amount of money on pedals though. Inspired by the EHX Effectology youtube vids i grabbed some of my EHX pedals and combined them in the following order. EHX Micro Pog then the EHX Ring THing followed by a Q-tron plus with a Montron Delay in the Qtrons internal effects loop.

I think it sounds quite P-funk like

https://soundcloud.com/alone-in-boston/wiesenm-ller-plays-jazz


sound quality is not too good because I recorded directly into a handheld device (Zoom H2n)

Anyway get the funk

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klasaine
Jun 12 2013, 05:00 PM
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That's great man.
It's really cool how EHX effects can take it so far away from 'guitar' sounds. The synth 'lead' sounds you can get with the Q-tron and a POG are great.

This guy also does a really good job demoing EH stuff ... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_quer...ube.ZYwrf9F1oQk

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I use a weird Boss pedal that IMHO is very under valued and will one day be pricey like the Spectrum and Slow Gear. It's called the Dynamic Filter. It's a crazy sounding pedal.

The only song I know for sure it was used on was 'What I am'. You can plug an expression pedal into it and use it like a wah but I have never done that.

The weird solo in the middle is a guitar not a synth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDl3bdE3YQA

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ItSME3
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QUOTE (Amp360 @ Jun 12 2013, 06:35 PM) *
I use a weird Boss pedal that IMHO is very under valued and will one day be pricey like the Spectrum and Slow Gear. It's called the Dynamic Filter. It's a crazy sounding pedal.

The only song I know for sure it was used on was 'What I am'. You can plug an expression pedal into it and use it like a wah but I have never done that.

The weird solo in the middle is a guitar not a synth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDl3bdE3YQA



do you mean the ft2 dynamic filter. I have one of those little yellow bricks too. it was designed for bass and even though you can adjust low pass/ high pass, i have the feeling that the filter doesnt open up on higher frequencies and even if you open the Q up all the way it doesn`t get the "quack " the q-tron offers. it still sounds quite cool though. anyway hold on to it. they became quite rare. someone offered me 250 euros for that thingy.

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Todd Simpson
Jun 13 2013, 05:11 AM
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I"m all about "Doing it in Software" smile.gif So a while back during a collab, I had s similar idea for pushing the tone in to the "odd" area and ended up with this. You can still hear the guitar under it as that's how the patch is built. The synthy shimmer helped it stand out in the mix. It's just a simple Guitar Rig 4 patch with some tweaks.

https://soundcloud.com/techniqueswithtodd/guitar-rig-4-synthetic-apeture

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It's always fun to see what you can put together in a given package. Guitar Rig and OVERLOUD have enormous flexibility in routing and layering fx. Far beyond what would be possible with the hardware I have on hand. Thank the God's for plugins smile.gif

I know they are not everyones cup of tea, but that's why there are so many cups smile.gif

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ItSME3
Jun 13 2013, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jun 13 2013, 05:11 AM) *
I"m all about "Doing it in Software" smile.gif So a while back during a collab, I had s similar idea for pushing the tone in to the "odd" area and ended up with this. You can still hear the guitar under it as that's how the patch is built. The synthy shimmer helped it stand out in the mix. It's just a simple Guitar Rig 4 patch with some tweaks.

https://soundcloud.com/techniqueswithtodd/guitar-rig-4-synthetic-apeture

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It's always fun to see what you can put together in a given package. Guitar Rig and OVERLOUD have enormous flexibility in routing and layering fx. Far beyond what would be possible with the hardware I have on hand. Thank the God's for plugins smile.gif

I know they are not everyones cup of tea, but that's why there are so many cups smile.gif

Todd


thats a quite complex patch smile.gif. sounds cool though

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Todd Simpson
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Only 16 components in that patch smile.gif It is one of the more complex signal chains I did in GUITAR RIG to be sure. That's what I LOVE about GUITAR RIG/OVERLOUD etc. You can invent semi crazy signal chains and try them out and mix and match without having to buy each and every pedal/rack you'd require otherwise.

Does each piece sound exactly like the one they emulate? No. But each sounds pretty good and they stack up well without using batteries/power supplies/patch cables. For the home recordist, it just seems like the most practical option IMHO. I stil have wads of stomps (OD's mostly to drive my modelers harder) but they simply can't beat the flexibility and immediacy of things like Guitar Rig/Amplitude. Probalby why I'm such a modeller/emulation nut smile.gif

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QUOTE (ItSME3 @ Jun 13 2013, 11:10 AM) *
thats a quite complex patch smile.gif. sounds cool though

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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jun 12 2013, 09:11 PM) *
I"m all about "Doing it in Software" smile.gif So a while back during a collab, I had s similar idea for pushing the tone in to the "odd" area and ended up with this. You can still hear the guitar under it as that's how the patch is built. The synthy shimmer helped it stand out in the mix. It's just a simple Guitar Rig 4 patch with some tweaks.

https://soundcloud.com/techniqueswithtodd/guitar-rig-4-synthetic-apeture


That's a great lead guitar sound Todd!

Here's a couple that take it completely away from 'guitar' (though done totally with only a guitar).





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Todd Simpson
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I've seen these vids and they are great series on youtube!! I use them as inspiration to try to "Do it in Software". It's a great puzzle to try to recreate these things using software pedal boards. I sometimes will combine AMPLITUDE and OVERLOUD and the pedal board in LOGIC. You can get some amazing sound that would be pretty impractical in the real world.

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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jun 14 2013, 01:36 PM) *
I use them as inspiration to try to "Do it in Software". It's a great puzzle to try to recreate these things using software pedal boards. I sometimes will combine AMPLITUDE and OVERLOUD and the pedal board in LOGIC. You can get some amazing sound that would be pretty impractical in the real world.

Todd


Plus, using software you can 'save' the patch.

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QUOTE (klasaine @ Jun 14 2013, 09:44 PM) *
Plus, using software you can 'save' the patch.


i use an E-bow with various strange effects to achieve synthy sounds. ive recently created an entire "album" out of E-bow'd bass (and other string instruments) its a weird sonic landscape of audio hallucinogenic textures to sync up with abstract ideas and thought patterns

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BINGO!! smile.gif Even if your using three multi fx plugins like OVERLOUD/AMPLITUDE stacked up you can save each preset and save the DAW project and keep the stack in tact!!!!

The wonders of the digital age smile.gif When I was working more with Pedals, I would make these long diagrams and charts with pedal position, knob values etc. So saving the patch was quite a bit more work smile.gif


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QUOTE (klasaine @ Jun 14 2013, 05:44 PM) *
Plus, using software you can 'save' the patch.



Well spiff! Share some soundcloud links!

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QUOTE (waynedcoville @ Jun 14 2013, 06:11 PM) *
i use an E-bow with various strange effects to achieve synthy sounds. ive recently created an entire "album" out of E-bow'd bass (and other string instruments) its a weird sonic landscape of audio hallucinogenic textures to sync up with abstract ideas and thought patterns

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I've always liked this song.
All the 'sound effect' stuff, pads and noise is guitar. A combo of fx pedals (mostly EH), E-bow, slide, wah, vol pdl and some bit mangling and speed mangling via software.
*It was done many years ago (10?) so I don't remember the exact fx or software.
Great tune by a Russian film and video game composer here in L. A., Alex Kharlamov.

https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/cry-on-my-name

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Cool stuff! Is it from

The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Ring? 2003?

QUOTE (klasaine @ Jun 15 2013, 11:38 AM) *
I've always liked this song.
All the 'sound effect' stuff, pads and noise is guitar. A combo of fx pedals (mostly EH), E-bow, slide, wah, vol pdl and some bit mangling and speed mangling via software.
*It was done many years ago (10?) so I don't remember the exact fx or software.
Great tune by a Russian film and video game composer here in L. A., Alex Kharlamov.

https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/cry-on-my-name

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Ooooh ... I don't know(?)
I don't usually know where a lot stuff I do ends up.
*My 'guess' is that this was just a personal song for him.

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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jun 15 2013, 04:11 AM) *
BINGO!! smile.gif Even if your using three multi fx plugins like OVERLOUD/AMPLITUDE stacked up you can save each preset and save the DAW project and keep the stack in tact!!!!

The wonders of the digital age smile.gif When I was working more with Pedals, I would make these long diagrams and charts with pedal position, knob values etc. So saving the patch was quite a bit more work smile.gif


Todd




Well spiff! Share some soundcloud links!

Todd


well it took me a minute to get it uploaded (just the first track anyway) but here you go. enjoy (sit back, close your eyes and relax - its a bit lengthy)

https://soundcloud.com/fuzzysatan/theflu-virus

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QUOTE (waynedcoville @ Jun 17 2013, 09:03 PM) *
well it took me a minute to get it uploaded (just the first track anyway) but here you go. enjoy (sit back, close your eyes and relax - its a bit lengthy)

https://soundcloud.com/fuzzysatan/theflu-virus



okay here is the "album" in its entirety. obviously this is a departure from the sort of music that is taught on GMC but i had fun creating it. and although it barely resembles music as we know it, it still sounds neat. enjoy 'worldWide' by my little side project, theFlu.

https://soundcloud.com/fuzzysatan/sets/theflu-worldwide

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I like it!

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QUOTE (waynedcoville @ Jun 18 2013, 04:00 AM) *
okay here is the "album" in its entirety. obviously this is a departure from the sort of music that is taught on GMC but i had fun creating it. and although it barely resembles music as we know it, it still sounds neat. enjoy 'worldWide' by my little side project, theFlu.

https://soundcloud.com/fuzzysatan/sets/theflu-worldwide


here's my second endeavor into sonic sludge and tectonic tones. enjoy...

https://soundcloud.com/fuzzysatan/theflu-flatearth

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