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Posted by: Stijntjen May 13 2007, 12:25 AM

Anyone watch the eurovision song contest ?
As again it was another great lesson in geographie.
Points are given to neighbours and country of origin and not to the best song.
For example, greece gives points to cyprus and belgium(we have a lot of turks and albanian immigrants) give points to albania and turkey.
I just needed to get this of my mind It really sucks if you watch and you can guess perectly who will gets points from one another.

Anyone else notices this ? Is annoyed by this ? Or is it just 'cause i live in a country that never makes it through the semi-finals anymore ?

Posted by: Pavel May 13 2007, 12:32 AM

It has been like this for ages now! Me and my mom were watching it now and i was just reading like: "OK, now Ukraine is getting 12 points!" - and it happened. People votes mean nothing there! It's a political contest so i don't care about it.

Anyway - there were some nice chicks singing there! hehehe

Posted by: Robin May 13 2007, 12:40 AM

I didnt really watch it, I saw some seconds of a few songs. I usually hate all the kinds of music styles on these contests, but the worst part that I noticed was the vocals. I only saw, maybe 3 songs, but man all those vocals SUCKED big time.

Posted by: Stijntjen May 13 2007, 09:34 AM

Yeah the music always sucks
so i don't watch that and just watch the point giving
Anyone see the girl that was giving the points from ysland ?
Now that was a pretty girl

Good thing i didn't waste my time completely ...

Posted by: Balys May 13 2007, 10:11 AM

Lithuania ALWAYS gets 12 points from Ireland. I dont remember when we didnt get 12 points from Ireland. We get those points mainly because there are like ~300.000 Lithuanian people living in Ireland.

Posted by: mattacuk May 13 2007, 09:11 PM

Its all about the chicks!

Posted by: Ryan May 13 2007, 09:14 PM

What is eurovision???

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn May 13 2007, 10:00 PM

You don't know? Great - you are blessed

Ok, its a competition between all of the countries in Europe to see who can perform the best song. It usually goes like this:

1. Each contry manages to pick a band and song totally unrepresentative of their music scene
2. There is a lame competition in which all the acts perform their songs
3. Afterwards, each country votes along strictly politial lines, totally ignoring the merits of the songs
4. Ireland is declared the winner

Posted by: blindwillie May 14 2007, 08:24 AM

The ESC is pathetic now. As you all said points are given to neighbours and the music really sucks. There is some gems, but they are rare. They have to change the voting system or the ESC will die. Germany, France, Ireland and England seems to have abandon this and Italy doesn't participate anymore.

Posted by: Balys May 14 2007, 11:17 AM

I dont think its possible to change the voting system. The only solution to stop countrys to vote for each other is to ban voting of your neighbours. But that aint possible. Eurovision is going to die. But its quite a bad thing actualy. There are many people who LIKE ESC. We cant blame them because its music to their ears. Just like our music is to ours. And another thing that would be bad if ESC died is that there would be no more National Selections. The National Selections for ESC is a rare oppurtunity for small rock bands that perform in the underground scene to show their faces on the TV. Many bands in Lithuania got famous this way.

Posted by: mattacuk May 14 2007, 11:24 AM

Haha, yeah Ireland ALWAYS win!!

Posted by: MickeM May 14 2007, 11:38 AM

I never miss the Eurovision song contest but I must say the voting part is a huge disappointment. I tend to belive it was more fair before when there wery jury groups instead of phone votes.
I dont belive they will ever cut the phone voting, it's too much of an income but it's not at all beneficial for the music.

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 22 2008, 06:25 PM

Today is the second semi finals night , anyone watching ??
And I don't think its all rubbish..I mean there are pretty good songs out there

Posted by: Muris Varajic May 22 2008, 06:34 PM

Laka for president

Posted by: Iluha May 22 2008, 06:37 PM

Well, the Israeli song is crap, but it made it to the finals, because other songs were even crappier lol..
The countries get realy predictble, all the slavik countries(Russia, Moldova, Belarus, ETC.) send a hot female singer, Finland sends some unknown metal/rock act, and other countries ussually try and do something catchy like a numa numa song, but ussually they fail

Posted by: MickeM May 22 2008, 06:39 PM

Yeah, I'm watching it!

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 22 2008, 06:48 PM

What are you favorites ??

Russia, Greece and Bosnia are my favorites from the first night

Posted by: Spreedmaster May 22 2008, 07:09 PM

Ireland aresending a turkey puppet to the best of my knowledge.....

Posted by: Mark. May 22 2008, 07:15 PM

I don't like it It is more about the act then the actual music, and if there's one thing that I hate then it's judging people or even bands on their appearance...

Posted by: mattacuk May 22 2008, 07:28 PM

This is the only entry for me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8linZiGYSeE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP30TSC2aw0&feature=related

No wonder Ireland win everytime

Posted by: Sam Hook May 22 2008, 07:29 PM

Haha this thread was made for the last years Eurovison, over one year ago.

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 22 2008, 07:41 PM

Yeah I know , I wanted to use the topic not to make a new one..But than again I don't like topics content because I don't agree.. I should have made separate topic

@Irlande Douze Pointe I find that song laughing at whole Eurovision system of voting

Posted by: Hisham Al-Sanea May 22 2008, 08:20 PM

i heard thats in belegrad this year so let Bogdan or Ivan to inform us about the final later

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 22 2008, 09:35 PM

I saw the stage and what they did for preparation bla bla bla but the show itself.... naaah, don't like circus parades.

Posted by: botoxfox May 22 2008, 10:08 PM

Finland FTW!

Posted by: kevin-riff-after-riff May 22 2008, 10:14 PM

stupid thread, made me read pavels, then realise it was pavels before the "incident"... now im all sad

but on the other hand, reminded me or Lordi! wooh what a group of legends

but seriously...

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 22 2008, 10:20 PM

Finals will be exciting..I love how stage looks and everything Should be really exciting
Though I liked much better songs from the previous semi final night..

Posted by: Juan M. Valero May 23 2008, 09:12 AM

One year after eurovision return... and I hope nothing changes, the same sh** as the last year... or worse.

Posted by: blindwillie May 23 2008, 12:50 PM

Recycling is good, saves the planet

I don't think it's rubbish. I's fun entertainment for a family evening. Argue about why they suck the most and who is hottest.
Not my kind of music but as entertainment it's OK. It's like a tradition to watch it the whole family together.

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 23 2008, 12:56 PM

Yeah that's good point! Its a cool tradition and "show" to watch with family...Yes songs can be this and that , but there are always some number of really good songs out there..

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion May 23 2008, 12:57 PM

You gotta watch it in UK just for Terry Wogan's comments on all of them. "Next up, 3 French slappers". You can't beat UK commentators

Posted by: Hauke_Z May 23 2008, 02:12 PM

I was really surprised when the "Finnish Monsters" from Lordi won the competition two years ago

Posted by: chmilew May 23 2008, 02:34 PM

Yeah, i was surprised too !actually they won the Eurovison with 292 points, a record

Ps : God Bless Father Ted !

Posted by: tonymiro May 23 2008, 02:41 PM

I always love Tel's comments on the presenters - he's great; shows the Euro up as the bit of kitsch it really is .

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: Canis May 23 2008, 02:58 PM

Gotta watch this tomorrow ^^
I don't really like that they air the semi-finals now... It's a bit too much.
Also, it sucks that the former norwegian commentator quit.. It was a tradition to listen to his deep calm voice during Eurovision. Now it's some guy I can't remember having ever seen...

What do you guys think of Norway's song, "Hold On, Be Strong"?

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 23 2008, 03:16 PM

This contest should not be considered worthy in any musical sense for all I care. It's a big show for the masses. Music festival where music is just a background thing.

Posted by: Canis May 23 2008, 09:39 PM

I agree, but for some reason it's a tradition for me, so I gotta watch

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 24 2008, 11:09 AM

Tonights the finals ! By best bet goes to Russia or Greece

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 24 2008, 11:33 AM

I would vote for Russia too. Didn't heard the song, but it seems to me they are most likely to win

Posted by: Nighthawk May 24 2008, 11:33 AM

It's a shame who is going to represent Germany

Posted by: Nemanja Filipovic May 24 2008, 12:05 PM

Just wanna say a few things,I think that in Eurovision song contest are some good songs,and you are right a bout the "friend countries" who give the points to there own,but if that was the case there would not be different winner almost every time.What happends is,the songs who win in the end is the song who won the most "little points",points of 3 or 4 votes.
My favorite are Bosnia&Hercegovina,Serbia(naturally ),Sweden(my girlfriend works on Evrovision this year,and she say that the Sweden girl is cool,that she is "down to earth").
Funny thing a but Russia,they brought Stradivari violin,and with the violin comes 4 arm guards( with 4 AK 47).

Posted by: blindwillie May 24 2008, 10:05 PM

GO FRANCE!
Cool song. A smell of Pulp and early David Bowie really.

Posted by: chmilew May 24 2008, 10:09 PM

haha, yeah Go France .. and the pole (she's cute )

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 24 2008, 11:26 PM

as I said

Posted by: blindwillie May 24 2008, 11:30 PM

That was scary!

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 24 2008, 11:41 PM

I like placing small bets to make it more fun Last year I was patriotic and went for Serbia Now I got a perfect record

Posted by: besip May 25 2008, 12:41 AM

i'm don't have change to see that here in usa but our Czech beauty is out
but thats good becouse lot of people was upset{in Czech Rep} becouse many people thing..she was there just becouse when she won in our country thats just becouse she showing to everyboy when she sing her underwear

Posted by: Canis May 25 2008, 01:20 AM

Awh, I was hoping Turkey would win. For some reason I just loved them
Norway on 5th.. That's the highest we've been in ages!!

Posted by: Matt23 May 25 2008, 09:51 AM

The UK managed to keep up the ancient tradition of coming last in the Eurovision song contest last night.

Posted by: Moon Boots May 25 2008, 10:13 AM

Yup.

Apparently we won't be entering next year as all the Eastern countries vote for each other regardless of the songs

Posted by: Toni Suominen May 25 2008, 10:42 AM

Finland didn't get that many points (again), and I believe we even lost to Sweden

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 25 2008, 07:30 PM

I don't know why England doesn't send some major stars to Eurovision, and you have a lot of them..I'm sure they would stand a real chance of wining then.

Posted by: at lights end May 25 2008, 07:49 PM

it's just stupid now, so predictable, its quite funny, i love terry wogan's sarcastic commentary.

if you were a major star would you want to lower yourself to the eurovision?

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 25 2008, 08:32 PM

Good point

Posted by: Marcus Lavendell May 25 2008, 08:53 PM

Don't know what to say about Sweden's contribution... I guess it's best not to say anything at all

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic May 25 2008, 09:00 PM

I just don't think its a big corruption there , I mean some countries send "stars" and they do much better when it comes to placing in the contest..

Posted by: Niko Fran May 31 2008, 03:21 PM

I dont think that the ESC is compleatley corupted. People claim that the east countries vote for their neighbours, and yes, the do, but so does the western, like Sweden - Norway - Denmark - Iceland - Finland voted alot for each other this year. But if they just keep voting the same each year, that would not explain why Finland wins with 296 points two years ago, and was far down the charts this year, so i stil think that the best song wins - as some people allways vote for the right song. Russia did get alot 4-5 etc. from alot of countries outside eastern europe, so i say i think it was fair. I'm danish, and i voted for France, to bad it dindt make it very high, really liked it

Posted by: Canis May 31 2008, 03:25 PM

I think it's "optional corruption" I read somewhere that Sweden complained because they didn't get 12 points from Norway, and said that "Norway stood us up when we needed them the most"

Posted by: Marek Rojewski May 31 2008, 03:36 PM

Well I am quite happy that Poland placed last;) Apparently only Poles voted for themselves, I mean the ones that live in Ireland and Great Britain, due to work immigration.. Shame on them, we could have 0 points!

Posted by: Tsarpf Jun 9 2008, 02:30 PM

LORDI !!!

oh yeah.. it was 2 years ago :/

Sweden didn't give any points to Finland this year I think :/

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 9 2008, 04:18 PM

That's funny