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Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 27 2013, 03:06 PM

Hey guys! I would like to share a video that won't necessary answer the question "how to play fast" but that I think will give you more information about licks and scales that I used a lot in my new 40 Power Metal bands in one song: Harmonic Minor, Phrygian Major and Phrygian.



He shows the examples very fast, but you can also use GMC Malmsteen lessons for a deeper analysis:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/search/Yngwie+Malmsteen/

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 27 2013, 07:02 PM

I watched the video while folding my football team's shirts, shorts and socks, so I didn't pay 100% attention, but I think there's some nice little info in there.

Posted by: Darius Wave Sep 27 2013, 07:21 PM

QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 27 2013, 06:02 PM) *
I watched the video while folding my football team's shirts, shorts and socks, so I didn't pay 100% attention, but I think there's some nice little info in there.




HA ha ha! biggrin.gif Ben...at least You were honest biggrin.gif


Nice vid but I remembered Malmsteen as as worst teacher ever - Now I'm gonna play this fast (ultra fast), And now it's slow for Ya (still fast)" tongue.gif

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 27 2013, 07:26 PM

QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Sep 27 2013, 08:21 PM) *
HA ha ha! biggrin.gif Ben...at least You were honest biggrin.gif


Nice vid but I remembered Malmsteen as as worst teacher ever - Now I'm gonna play this fast (ultra fast), And now it's slow for Ya (still fast)" tongue.gif


Yeah, that's one thing I noticed as well. His instructional stuff comes with books though I think, so I guess that's easier to follow.

Posted by: Slavenko Erazer Sep 27 2013, 07:33 PM



somehow he reminds me on schwarzenegger in guitar world!!! huh.gif

Posted by: jstcrsn Sep 27 2013, 10:21 PM

just gonna be honest, he is not that great at teaching, he reminds me a saturday night live skit
"just do this , but faster, it's that easy"
I think he doesn't understands how hard it is for those that can't

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 27 2013, 10:24 PM

HOW TO PLAY FAST? ......PRACTICE!!!!!!! smile.gif


QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 27 2013, 10:06 AM) *
Hey guys! I would like to share a video that won't necessary answer the question "how to play fast" but that I think will give you more information about licks and scales that I used a lot in my new 40 Power Metal bands in one song: Harmonic Minor, Phrygian Major and Phrygian.



He shows the examples very fast, but you can also use GMC Malmsteen lessons for a deeper analysis:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/search/Yngwie+Malmsteen/


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 28 2013, 01:22 PM

QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Sep 27 2013, 06:21 PM) *
HA ha ha! biggrin.gif Ben...at least You were honest biggrin.gif


Nice vid but I remembered Malmsteen as as worst teacher ever - Now I'm gonna play this fast (ultra fast), And now it's slow for Ya (still fast)" tongue.gif


Exactly! biggrin.gif I never understood Yngwie instructional materials when I was in my teens because he was playing fast anyway - even when he was playing slow laugh.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 28 2013, 02:27 PM

QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Sep 27 2013, 03:21 PM) *
HA ha ha! biggrin.gif Ben...at least You were honest biggrin.gif


Nice vid but I remembered Malmsteen as as worst teacher ever - Now I'm gonna play this fast (ultra fast), And now it's slow for Ya (still fast)" tongue.gif


haha yeah, that's why I said in thee first post:

"He shows the examples very fast, but you can also use GMC Malmsteen lessons for a deeper analysis:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/search/Yngwie+Malmsteen/"

laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 28 2013, 09:22 AM) *
Exactly! biggrin.gif I never understood Yngwie instructional materials when I was in my teens because he was playing fast anyway - even when he was playing slow laugh.gif


hahaha the real secrets are easier to understand in books based on his style.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 29 2013, 11:37 AM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 28 2013, 01:27 PM) *
haha yeah, that's why I said in thee first post:

"He shows the examples very fast, but you can also use GMC Malmsteen lessons for a deeper analysis:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/search/Yngwie+Malmsteen/"

laugh.gif laugh.gif



hahaha the real secrets are easier to understand in books based on his style.


True, but somehow, I was never attracted to learning that style, even when I was a teenager obsessed with the idea that I need to play fast - I was more attracted to Satriani and Vai due to the diversity in their music. Malmsteen was too much... the same all the time - that's how I was perceiving things at that point smile.gif

Posted by: AK Rich Sep 30 2013, 04:12 AM

Interviewer at 6:58 "Are you just doing straight alternate picking when you're?" Yngwie,"Not when I go to different strings." Interviewer,"What do you do?" Yngwie, "Uhm, I dunno, actually I haven't looked at that but we can look at it." widdly widdly widdly shreda shreda shred. laugh.gif
"For the lower things I think it's kinda like this ,but when I go to the next string it has to be kinda like, different."
Yeah he is not the greatest instructor. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 30 2013, 07:50 AM

QUOTE (AK Rich @ Sep 30 2013, 03:12 AM) *
Interviewer at 6:58 "Are you just doing straight alternate picking when you're?" Yngwie,"Not when I go to different strings." Interviewer,"What do you do?" Yngwie, "Uhm, I dunno, actually I haven't looked at that but we can look at it." widdly widdly widdly shreda shreda shred. laugh.gif
"For the lower things I think it's kinda like this ,but when I go to the next string it has to be kinda like, different."
Yeah he is not the greatest instructor. rolleyes.gif


Because of this thread, I re-watched the 'Arpeggios from hell' 'instructional video' laugh.gif It astonished me as a teenager, but now, it amuses me a lot, because I realize he couldn't teach guitar to save his life laugh.gif He is an amazing player, but that's that wink.gif


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 1 2013, 04:53 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 30 2013, 03:50 AM) *
Because of this thread, I re-watched the 'Arpeggios from hell' 'instructional video' laugh.gif It astonished me as a teenager, but now, it amuses me a lot, because I realize he couldn't teach guitar to save his life laugh.gif He is an amazing player, but that's that wink.gif




That's a great tune!

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Oct 1 2013, 07:20 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 30 2013, 08:50 AM) *
Because of this thread, I re-watched the 'Arpeggios from hell' 'instructional video' laugh.gif It astonished me as a teenager, but now, it amuses me a lot, because I realize he couldn't teach guitar to save his life laugh.gif He is an amazing player, but that's that wink.gif



Oh, I remember that. I still think it sounds quite awesome for what it is though. I'm not a big Malmsteen fan though.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 1 2013, 09:58 PM

QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Oct 1 2013, 06:20 PM) *
Oh, I remember that. I still think it sounds quite awesome for what it is though. I'm not a big Malmsteen fan though.


Riight biggrin.gif That must be the reason for which you want to sell that strat wink.gif

Posted by: Headbanger Oct 1 2013, 10:35 PM

Mesmerising playing...but I don't really like neo classical or Malmsteen...Theres plenty of slower music out there that gives you time to enjoy it. blink.gif

Posted by: Todd Simpson Oct 2 2013, 03:37 AM

I noticed the same thing actually. smile.gif You'd need some serious side material/notes to get a handle on what he's playing IMHO. His version of "Slow" is somewhere around "Medium Shred" I think smile.gif


QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 27 2013, 02:26 PM) *
Yeah, that's one thing I noticed as well. His instructional stuff comes with books though I think, so I guess that's easier to follow.


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 2 2013, 11:45 AM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 2 2013, 02:37 AM) *
I noticed the same thing actually. smile.gif You'd need some serious side material/notes to get a handle on what he's playing IMHO. His version of "Slow" is somewhere around "Medium Shred" I think smile.gif


In Malmsteen's case there is no slow laugh.gif his cars say the same thing:


Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 2 2013, 03:40 PM

As this thread has became a Malmsteen thread... check some important people talking about him.


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 3 2013, 11:36 AM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 2 2013, 02:40 PM) *
As this thread has became a Malmsteen thread... check some important people talking about him.



Haha - you are definitely someone when those folks say those things about you laugh.gif

Posted by: Darius Wave Oct 3 2013, 07:08 PM

QUOTE (AK Rich @ Sep 30 2013, 03:12 AM) *
Interviewer at 6:58 "Are you just doing straight alternate picking when you're?" Yngwie,"Not when I go to different strings." Interviewer,"What do you do?" Yngwie, "Uhm, I dunno, actually I haven't looked at that but we can look at it." widdly widdly widdly shreda shreda shred. laugh.gif
"For the lower things I think it's kinda like this ,but when I go to the next string it has to be kinda like, different."
Yeah he is not the greatest instructor. rolleyes.gif



Yep...this defenately explains everything AK biggrin.gif

Posted by: SteveGuitar Oct 3 2013, 10:31 PM

QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Sep 27 2013, 06:33 PM) *


somehow he reminds me on schwarzenegger in guitar world!!! huh.gif




Hahaha Slavenko Awesome :DDDDDD

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 3 2013, 10:59 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Oct 3 2013, 07:36 AM) *
Haha - you are definitely someone when those folks say those things about you laugh.gif


yeah, just being named by those guys means something... laugh.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 4 2013, 08:36 AM

I will hijack this thread biggrin.gif But this is too funny not to post tongue.gif


Posted by: Todd Simpson Oct 5 2013, 12:47 AM

Nice pull smile.gif Got a huge kick out of that Ahnuld vid smile.gif And yeah, the Yngwie documentary does sorta show how influential the guy was as a player. He's not a great instructor at all, but those are two very different things after all. Not all instructors are brilliant players, and vice versa. We are pretty lucky here @ GMC in that we have some really spiff players who are also pretty spiff instructors, like Cosmin!! smile.gif

Yngwie is an important part of Rock guitar history though. He literally changed music when he can on the scene. There were people doing similar stuff before him, but nobody did it with the degree of attitude and intensity that he had at the time. He started the "shred fest" so to speak smile.gif It's difficult to not acknowledge his contribution.

I do wish he could articulate himself a bit better though. Maybe as he gets older he will spend more time becoming a better instructor. As arthritis sets in, he won't be able to shred forever smile.gif

Todd



QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Oct 4 2013, 03:36 AM) *
I will hijack this thread biggrin.gif But this is too funny not to post tongue.gif



Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 5 2013, 12:40 PM

Thank you for your kind words Todd, tho I consider myself far from being that spiff tongue.gif! In my opinion, one of the guys out there who was them both going at a great level, would be Guthrie Govan. He is both an astral player and a great instructor - I remember when he came in 2009 in Romania, I attended his seminar and believe it or not, in about 40 minutes, that man has explained the most important aspects of playing the guitar, if which we would keep in mind all the time and if we would practice religiously, we would all evolve into great players:

- rhythm is crucial - get a great hang of your timing
- always understand what you play by knowing the common language in order to easily communicate with other people around you
- be melodic instead of trying to be a show-off
- play music, not scales and arpeggios
- don't try to imitate other musicians - try to implement the things you learn from them in your playing, but play them as you would play them, not as they are doing it
- play with people as much as you can
- when you learn something, be sure to master all the details - do not take a simple song for granted - make it shine by playing it as great as possible
- don't strive to be complicated in your music, for the sake of it, sometimes simple things can tell a story better than anything else
- try to transmit a message with your music

I tried to sum it up as best as I could, although nothing - but nothing compares to being there:




Posted by: Todd Simpson Oct 5 2013, 09:46 PM

Some great tips from two killer instructors, Guthri and the COS!! I really do think we are lucky here having such a great community of teacher and killer players that we call "students" but who are in fact just as much a part of the learning process as the instructors. It really is a symbiotic relationship smile.gif


QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Oct 5 2013, 07:40 AM) *
Thank you for your kind words Todd, tho I consider myself far from being that spiff tongue.gif! In my opinion, one of the guys out there who was them both going at a great level, would be Guthrie Govan. He is both an astral player and a great instructor - I remember when he came in 2009 in Romania, I attended his seminar and believe it or not, in about 40 minutes, that man has explained the most important aspects of playing the guitar, if which we would keep in mind all the time and if we would practice religiously, we would all evolve into great players:

- rhythm is crucial - get a great hang of your timing
- always understand what you play by knowing the common language in order to easily communicate with other people around you
- be melodic instead of trying to be a show-off
- play music, not scales and arpeggios
- don't try to imitate other musicians - try to implement the things you learn from them in your playing, but play them as you would play them, not as they are doing it
- play with people as much as you can
- when you learn something, be sure to master all the details - do not take a simple song for granted - make it shine by playing it as great as possible
- don't strive to be complicated in your music, for the sake of it, sometimes simple things can tell a story better than anything else
- try to transmit a message with your music

I tried to sum it up as best as I could, although nothing - but nothing compares to being there:





Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 6 2013, 03:31 PM

Thank you Todd! I have at least four in my mind if not five, that are amazing players already!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 9 2013, 08:21 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Oct 5 2013, 08:40 AM) *
Thank you for your kind words Todd, tho I consider myself far from being that spiff tongue.gif! In my opinion, one of the guys out there who was them both going at a great level, would be Guthrie Govan. He is both an astral player and a great instructor - I remember when he came in 2009 in Romania, I attended his seminar and believe it or not, in about 40 minutes, that man has explained the most important aspects of playing the guitar, if which we would keep in mind all the time and if we would practice religiously, we would all evolve into great players:

- rhythm is crucial - get a great hang of your timing
- always understand what you play by knowing the common language in order to easily communicate with other people around you
- be melodic instead of trying to be a show-off
- play music, not scales and arpeggios
- don't try to imitate other musicians - try to implement the things you learn from them in your playing, but play them as you would play them, not as they are doing it
- play with people as much as you can
- when you learn something, be sure to master all the details - do not take a simple song for granted - make it shine by playing it as great as possible
- don't strive to be complicated in your music, for the sake of it, sometimes simple things can tell a story better than anything else
- try to transmit a message with your music

I tried to sum it up as best as I could, although nothing - but nothing compares to being there:






It's so inspiring to read his books and see him talking about music and guitar. I still remember how impressed I felt when I discovered his books "Creative Guitar" in which I found the best texts about guitar I have ever read. He explained everything so clearly, so complete, with excellent examples and with humility. I also love his magazine articles as well as his music.

Another guy that I think is both a great teacher/guru and guitarist is Steve Vai. I love his speeches as much as his music.


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 10 2013, 08:57 AM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 9 2013, 07:21 PM) *
It's so inspiring to read his books and see him talking about music and guitar. I still remember how impressed I felt when I discovered his books "Creative Guitar" in which I found the best texts about guitar I have ever read. He explained everything so clearly, so complete, with excellent examples and with humility. I also love his magazine articles as well as his music.

Another guy that I think is both a great teacher/guru and guitarist is Steve Vai. I love his speeches as much as his music.



Hell yes - I always knew there was something magical about him, but after going to his workshop this June, I realized that the guy can give you wings after listening to him talk... It's a strong recommendation - if you have the chance, go attend on of his workshops smile.gif It might change your life

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