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Posted by: Todd Simpson Oct 22 2013, 07:51 AM

Something happened and a band called ALL THAT REMAINS seems to have, all the sudden, turned in to another band called NICKLEBACK. hmmm. Well, they say "Change is good" but sometimes,..........


Here is the vid.


Posted by: PosterBoy Oct 22 2013, 08:09 AM

Luckily that song is the exception rather than the direction of the album. I was surprised when I heard it as it seemed unusual and a little radio friendly for them.

Posted by: bleez Oct 22 2013, 08:36 AM

yikes. it is a bit heavy on the rock ballad cliches mellow.gif

Posted by: Slavenko Erazer Oct 22 2013, 08:56 AM

DEATH TO FALSE METAL \,,,/

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 22 2013, 09:00 AM

Hmmmm - I was kind of having the same thought smile.gif I think the hunger is striking big bands as well, so no wonder they are trying to get mroe radio friendly... at least with the single smile.gif

Posted by: Slavenko Erazer Oct 22 2013, 09:03 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Oct 22 2013, 10:00 AM) *
Hmmmm - I was kind of having the same thought smile.gif I think the hunger is striking big bands as well, so no wonder they are trying to get mroe radio friendly... at least with the single smile.gif


You See, only True Metal bands stay metal always ... they don't get radio friendly, don't kill themselves longing for big success ..that's only way you can stay True till death and every honest fan will appreciate that : smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 22 2013, 09:12 AM

QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Oct 22 2013, 08:03 AM) *
You See, only True Metal bands stay metal always ... they don't get radio friendly, don't kill themselves longing for big success ..that's only way you can stay True till death and every honest fan will appreciate that : smile.gif


When the management and contracts get in the way, things become more complicated, I think wink.gif It sucks, but that's how it goes at that level..

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 22 2013, 04:46 PM

QUOTE (Slavenko Erazer @ Oct 22 2013, 04:56 AM) *
DEATH TO FALSE METAL \,,,/


hahah best comment ever! laugh.gif

Posted by: Todd Simpson Oct 23 2013, 05:34 AM

I've been reading about various bands just calling it quits lately due to not being able to make a living being in a band. MetalInjection.com keeps running stories of guys dropping out of bands that I"ve actually heard of and respect (Aeon, etc.) simply because they can't pay their bills and keep doing music. Many times, they have started a family, and have serious obligations to consider.

I read many comments judging them harshly on various outlets (facebook/metalsucks.net) and it seems a bit horrible to me. If someone in band with a decent following has to quit just to paint houses to support their family, ,I think we should throw them a WAKE (google it) and start a paypal donation fund to help them in the transition. Not bash them and judge them and say they suck for quitting.

http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/bummer-alert/aeon-guitarist-cant-afford-being-in-a-band-anymore-quits

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 23 2013, 09:06 AM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 23 2013, 04:34 AM) *
I've been reading about various bands just calling it quits lately due to not being able to make a living being in a band. MetalInjection.com keeps running stories of guys dropping out of bands that I"ve actually heard of and respect (Aeon, etc.) simply because they can't pay their bills and keep doing music. Many times, they have started a family, and have serious obligations to consider.

I read many comments judging them harshly on various outlets (facebook/metalsucks.net) and it seems a bit horrible to me. If someone in band with a decent following has to quit just to paint houses to support their family, ,I think we should throw them a WAKE (google it) and start a paypal donation fund to help them in the transition. Not bash them and judge them and say they suck for quitting.

http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/bummer-alert/aeon-guitarist-cant-afford-being-in-a-band-anymore-quits


Best darn attitude! Kudos to you Todd! If everyone would think AND ACT like that, there would be a chance for things to get better. A real chance!

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Oct 23 2013, 02:34 PM

I'm not that familiar with their discography but I liked this song on the first listen.

I can imagine this would upset their fans if the style change was too big but I don't think bands should be fixed to a certain style or arena. I don't think its bad for a band to make a "less-underground" song if they wanted to and music brought them in that direction. I mean - this is a very cool song isn't it? Yes, the form is more "easy to listen" but the melodies and everything is cool. Simplicity is sometimes the most difficult thing to achieve. If it was that easy to make cliche stuff - everyone would have hit songs? It all comes down to the band and songs that they are envisioning when they are composing them I guess.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 24 2013, 10:02 AM

QUOTE (Bogdan Radovic @ Oct 23 2013, 01:34 PM) *
I'm not that familiar with their discography but I liked this song on the first listen.

I can imagine this would upset their fans if the style change was too big but I don't think bands should be fixed to a certain style or arena. I don't think its bad for a band to make a "less-underground" song if they wanted to and music brought them in that direction. I mean - this is a very cool song isn't it? Yes, the form is more "easy to listen" but the melodies and everything is cool. Simplicity is sometimes the most difficult thing to achieve. If it was that easy to make cliche stuff - everyone would have hit songs? It all comes down to the band and songs that they are envisioning when they are composing them I guess.


Simple but not simplistic - that's the thing. It's difficult to achieve because most musicians are blinded by the idea of going to war with a big handgun when they could solve the problem with a bow and arrow wink.gif

It's an often encountered phenomenon for the fans to start disliking a band simply because the band wanted to experiment with something else. You can hit or miss, of course. Now, if you want to have an idea of what All that remains are famous for, check these songs out:





These are my favorite songs, for instance smile.gif

Posted by: Todd Simpson Oct 24 2013, 10:48 AM

I was never really a fan, but I appreciated what I'd heard smile.gif I am all for a band experimenting with their sound and such, but this new "single" seems like almost a dis to their fan base? I know it's a real world and these guys have bills to pay like the rest of us, so I don't blame them for going just a bit "Skid Row/Nickleback" I just wish they didn't have to.

I suppose it's either this type of thing or they might have to start dropping members and calling it quits like many other metal bands lately. So in the final analysis, I hope they get some radio play and sell a few records. They have paid their dues and played every crap club on earth at this point. They are due.

Todd



QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Oct 24 2013, 05:02 AM) *
Simple but not simplistic - that's the thing. It's difficult to achieve because most musicians are blinded by the idea of going to war with a big handgun when they could solve the problem with a bow and arrow wink.gif

It's an often encountered phenomenon for the fans to start disliking a band simply because the band wanted to experiment with something else. You can hit or miss, of course. Now, if you want to have an idea of what All that remains are famous for, check these songs out:





These are my favorite songs, for instance smile.gif


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 25 2013, 10:10 AM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 24 2013, 09:48 AM) *
I was never really a fan, but I appreciated what I'd heard smile.gif I am all for a band experimenting with their sound and such, but this new "single" seems like almost a dis to their fan base? I know it's a real world and these guys have bills to pay like the rest of us, so I don't blame them for going just a bit "Skid Row/Nickleback" I just wish they didn't have to.

I suppose it's either this type of thing or they might have to start dropping members and calling it quits like many other metal bands lately. So in the final analysis, I hope they get some radio play and sell a few records. They have paid their dues and played every crap club on earth at this point. They are due.

Todd


I think the hardest part is to keep a cool head, make your music and keep the fanbase and also make the money - sounds utopic? Kind of, if you ask me as you can never have it all, just like with all things in life, but one should try and find a balance smile.gif Release a commercial/radio friendly single and place more metal/fan oriented songs on the album. One other thing which can be done, would be to release an acoustic version of the 'hit' song, travel the radio stations and tv stations with it, while keeping the album as rocknroll as possible wink.gif

Posted by: PosterBoy Mar 2 2015, 07:03 PM

Their new album is a big disappointment, it's like there are two bands, one song is a radio friendly Nickelback rock song and the next a lot heavier with the screaming, it's almost like that all through the album

Posted by: Vinman56 Mar 2 2015, 08:12 PM

i almost threw up

Posted by: PosterBoy Mar 2 2015, 08:56 PM

and just so others can throw up


The uploader sped up the tracks so everything should be slightly slower

Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 3 2015, 05:52 AM

some of it seems really heavy, then they switch up a bit and seem to go all "Radio Rock" in parts. I guess it's to be expected. Oli, the guitar player is a really fine musician. Good to see he's ripping it up well smile.gif Hope he does a solo project or something.


QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Mar 2 2015, 03:56 PM) *
and just so others can throw up


The uploader sped up the tracks so everything should be slightly slower


Posted by: Drag0nz&meTaL Mar 7 2015, 06:08 PM

im not surprised with this at all, I was huge into these guys when i first started playing guitar back around middle school, then around the cd Overcome they started to get lighter, and the next cd was lighter, and lighter, etc. Can't stand their music anymore but for me to say they suck would be petty, because they are still great musicians, they just went into a direction that makes me super sad. Again, I probably won't purchase this album sad.gif maybe next time!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 7 2015, 07:44 PM

I really hope OLI breaks out on his own and does something cool as a side project smile.gif Great player!

QUOTE (Drag0nz&meTaL @ Mar 7 2015, 01:08 PM) *
im not surprised with this at all, I was huge into these guys when i first started playing guitar back around middle school, then around the cd Overcome they started to get lighter, and the next cd was lighter, and lighter, etc. Can't stand their music anymore but for me to say they suck would be petty, because they are still great musicians, they just went into a direction that makes me super sad. Again, I probably won't purchase this album sad.gif maybe next time!

Posted by: Drag0nz&meTaL Mar 7 2015, 11:21 PM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Mar 7 2015, 06:44 PM) *
I really hope OLI breaks out on his own and does something cool as a side project smile.gif Great player!



agreed!

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