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Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 23 2019, 02:21 PM

Hello everybody!!! It's time for our Christmas/New Year collab!!!

I've recorded a backing based on "Silent Night" theme. You can record the melody, a variation or your own solo and phrases. Everything is welcome!

Backing Track:  GMC_Christmas_Collab.mp3 ( 1.98MB ) : 10749


Key: E Major

Tempo: 90 bpm

Suggested Scales:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator


If you are new to collabs please check out this: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=58277


WHO IS IN?

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FINAL RESULT:

Posted by: Piotr Kaczor Dec 23 2019, 03:54 PM

I'm in!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 23 2019, 04:45 PM

QUOTE (Piotr Kaczor @ Dec 23 2019, 11:54 AM)

I'm in!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 23 2019, 04:53 PM

Very nice backing Gab!! I hope to record in this one as well, would love to collab with Piotr - it's been way to long! ❤️👊

Right now busy with family/Christmas preparations.

Posted by: Phil66 Dec 23 2019, 09:55 PM

Here's an idea I've been trying tonight, it's a variation on the traditional theme, do you think it works?

Cheers

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/christmas-2019-take-1

Posted by: Adam Dec 24 2019, 08:14 AM

I'll pass this time

Posted by: Phil66 Dec 24 2019, 09:19 AM

QUOTE (Adam @ Dec 24 2019, 07:14 AM)

Posted by: Sensible Jones Dec 24 2019, 04:41 PM

I'll get something done for this!!!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 24 2019, 05:41 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Dec 23 2019, 05:55 PM)

QUOTE (Adam @ Dec 24 2019, 04:14 AM)

Posted by: Phil66 Dec 24 2019, 06:44 PM

Thanks Gab,

I'll stick with it then, maybe it could be the intro section. I was trying to think how to build it into a powerful ending but the track is tricky for me to play along with.

When is the closing date? I won't get much guitar in tomorrow, if any, maybe one boxing day I will but the day after is my last chance as I'm going away until Jan 2nd.

Cheers

Posted by: Todd Simpson Dec 25 2019, 03:40 AM

I'm in!!!!
Todd

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 26 2019, 02:17 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Dec 24 2019, 02:44 PM)

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Dec 24 2019, 11:40 PM)

I'm in!!!!
Todd

Posted by: HungryForHeaven Dec 30 2019, 11:24 AM

Audio only?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 30 2019, 01:27 PM

QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Dec 30 2019, 07:24 AM)

Posted by: Phil66 Dec 30 2019, 10:59 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Dec 24 2019, 04:41 PM)

Posted by: MisterM Dec 31 2019, 04:57 AM

Hi Gab, Hi Kris

I’m renovating my new home.
I have very little time to play the guitar right now,
I couldn't participate in the collab of the Christmas holidays.

Happy new year all

Posted by: Adam Jan 1 2020, 01:13 AM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Dec 24 2019, 10:19 AM)

Come on buddy, give it a go, even if its just a couple of chords Gab will use it. Its good for creative development just trying to think of something to fit

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 1 2020, 09:37 AM

QUOTE (Adam @ Jan 1 2020, 12:13 AM)

Posted by: Rids Jan 1 2020, 07:07 PM

Happy New Year to all!

Nice backing track.

My take

 guitar_only.wav ( 17.68MB ) : 162
 with_backing.wav ( 17.88MB ) : 171

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 2 2020, 08:15 AM

The easy answer is to simply start slow and then ramp up the speed of your licks. Of course this means playing sometimes at double the speed that you were playing during the slow bit. This will tangle your fingers up until you get used to it. Try to ram up speed in a small burst then go back to the regular speed.

Todd

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Dec 30 2019, 05:59 PM)

Thanks Gab,

Something I'd like to work on in the future is how to build speed when the backing doesn't change, or when the backing is shot to get more dramatic. I was watching https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=60620 and Dime does it in some sections, I know I'm light years away from him but it got me wishing I understood how to build speed over a slow backing. I tried and my fingers got tangled.

Anyway, sorry to hijack thread, its something for the future.

By the way, you have to watch her disbelief and awe at the 10 minute mark

I'll make a bid when I get back

Cheers

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 2 2020, 08:40 AM

Thanks buddy

I think it's not just about speed. I have an example solo in my head but can't think who plays it. It's kinda like eight notes at a time getting faster each time and the a bit crescendo.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 etc

Or

1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 2 3 4 5 6 5 4 3 3 4 5 6 7 6 5 4 4 5 6 7 8 7 6 5 etc

It wouldn't work being that big in this project but it's more about the idea of building solo speed gradually over a static backing.

It's probably far too advanced for me at the moment and because I don't actually know what's being done, it's hard to explain. I hope I can find an example and/or remember who played the one in my head. Maybe we could have some lessons at least levels covering the basics, maybe there are some but I'm fully booked with my time at them moment so it's for the future, for me anyway

Cheers

Phil

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jan 2 2020, 07:15 AM)

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 3 2020, 03:31 AM

It's more about "building" speed. You mentioned building up during a slow backing. the trick is to find the right timing to shift between slow and fast. Either way to play a fast passage, one does have to play or sound like one is playing faster which just means more notes in the bar than in the last bar. One can do it by tapping, adding open strings, etc My five note per string tapping techniqe, that weve worked on, is a good example. You can play it at the same relative speed, but sincethere are more notes in the same bar it sounds much faster since it make use of an openstring that you don't have to strike. Hope this makes sense.
Here is an example. I'm playing pretty slow, lots of 8th notes some slow during the bendy bits. Then I speeed it up at the end. Is this what you are talking about? If not share a vid or two if Im just missing it

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 2 2020, 03:40 AM)

Thanks buddy

I think it's not just about speed. I have an example solo in my head but can't think who plays it. It's kinda like eight notes at a time getting faster each time and the a bit crescendo.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 etc

Or

1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 2 3 4 5 6 5 4 3 3 4 5 6 7 6 5 4 4 5 6 7 8 7 6 5 etc

It wouldn't work being that big in this project but it's more about the idea of building solo speed gradually over a static backing.

It's probably far too advanced for me at the moment and because I don't actually know what's being done, it's hard to explain. I hope I can find an example and/or remember who played the one in my head. Maybe we could have some lessons at least levels covering the basics, maybe there are some but I'm fully booked with my time at them moment so it's for the future, for me anyway

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 3 2020, 02:03 PM

That's very similar to what I have in mind, that very last run is kinda in reverse of what I'm thinking. I don't have it to hand, I'll check later but the example solo I'm thinking could be Jake E Lee from the Bark At The Moon album. Hopefully when I find it it's how I remember it

Should this discussion be taken out of this thread and continued elsewhere?

Cheers

Phil

UPDATE:

This is similar to what is in my head, https://youtu.be/F89-MOy7Xfg?t=151 if you listen, at the 2:38 point Jake E seems to accelerate to a climax. Obviously this wouldn't fit in this backing, but I felt the urge to do a run to blend up to a higher register but my knowledge and skills aren't there yet. That's why i said for future learning I just didn't know what it's called to search for in the lessons when I fancy having a go.

Cheers buddy.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 3 2020, 04:23 PM

QUOTE (Rids @ Jan 1 2020, 03:07 PM)

Posted by: Rids Jan 3 2020, 04:25 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 3 2020, 03:23 PM)

Posted by: Adam Jan 4 2020, 12:25 AM

I'll record something this weekend. I've spent all day getting my new interface to work and I'm really tired now.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 6 2020, 03:05 PM

QUOTE (Rids @ Jan 3 2020, 12:25 PM)

QUOTE (Adam @ Jan 3 2020, 08:25 PM)

Posted by: Piotr Kaczor Jan 7 2020, 06:24 PM

Happy New Year!


Sorry for the delay, It was a crazy New Year's Eve... I've almost broken my left hand finger and I barely can move it, but somehow I've managed


Here is my take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc8CZMc6Q5A&feature=youtu.be

 Piotr_no_BT.mp3 ( 2.24MB ) : 100
 Piotr_w_BT.mp3 ( 2.25MB ) : 92

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 7 2020, 07:05 PM

Wou!! That's awesome Piotr!!! It's a big honor to hear your take over my backing!!

I love every phrase and note. You rock.

Posted by: Rids Jan 7 2020, 08:54 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 7 2020, 06:05 PM)

Posted by: Piotr Kaczor Jan 7 2020, 09:25 PM

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 7 2020, 07:05 PM)

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 7 2020, 10:05 PM

Well I don't think I can come up with anything for this backing Gab, I've spent my whole session trying to get inspired but this is the best I got, it's not what's in my head at all but it won't get to my fingers Please excuse the fret buzz, I was getting tense and picking hard

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/christmas-2019-take-2

Cheers

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 8 2020, 12:28 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 7 2020, 10:05 PM)

Well I don't think I can come up with anything for this backing Gab, I've spent my whole session trying to get inspired but this is the best I got, it's not what's in my head at all but it won't get to my fingers Please excuse the fret buzz, I was getting tense and picking hard

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/christmas-2019-take-2

Cheers

QUOTE (Piotr Kaczor @ Jan 7 2020, 06:24 PM)

Happy New Year!


Sorry for the delay, It was a crazy New Year's Eve... I've almost broken my left hand finger and I barely can move it, but somehow I've managed


Here is my take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc8CZMc6Q5A&feature=youtu.be

Posted by: Adam Jan 8 2020, 06:02 PM

 Christmas_part_1c.mp3 ( 650.04K ) : 71
 Christmas_part_1d.mp3 ( 650.04K ) : 60
 Christmas_Part_2c.mp3 ( 334.74K ) : 58
 Christmas_Part_2d.mp3 ( 334.74K ) : 65

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 8 2020, 09:01 PM

Thanks Kris, much appreciated, you're obviously hearing things that I'm not I'll work a bit more on it and make a take at the weekend if that's okay? The tone is my SRV Strat through some Jazz patch I modified called Blues Up Fusioneer in TH-U

Cheers

Phil

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 8 2020, 10:44 PM

QUOTE (Rids @ Jan 1 2020, 07:07 PM)

Posted by: Rids Jan 9 2020, 09:01 AM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jan 8 2020, 09:44 PM)

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 9 2020, 02:43 PM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 7 2020, 06:05 PM)

Well I don't think I can come up with anything for this backing Gab, I've spent my whole session trying to get inspired but this is the best I got, it's not what's in my head at all but it won't get to my fingers Please excuse the fret buzz, I was getting tense and picking hard

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/christmas-2019-take-2

Cheers

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 9 2020, 03:12 PM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jan 8 2020, 08:28 AM)

QUOTE (Adam @ Jan 8 2020, 02:02 PM)

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 9 2020, 10:01 PM

Okay, here is my take, I lost some of the essence of the last one which is why I don't like doing too many takes but it is what it is. If you want me to do it again, just let me know

https://youtu.be/SiAhGw7dHOQ



Here are the files https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ap09zsLCowi5iLdGj5XoYM8OQm7nAA?e=HBN3xH

Cheers

Posted by: onetabmat Jan 12 2020, 08:28 PM

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Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 13 2020, 02:16 AM

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 9 2020, 06:01 PM)

Okay, here is my take, I lost some of the essence of the last one which is why I don't like doing too many takes but it is what it is. If you want me to do it again, just let me know

https://youtu.be/SiAhGw7dHOQ



Here are the files https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ap09zsLCowi5iLdGj5XoYM8OQm7nAA?e=HBN3xH

Cheers

QUOTE (onetabmat @ Jan 12 2020, 04:28 PM)

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 16 2020, 01:59 PM

Hi guys!! Is there any new lesson coming?

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 18 2020, 04:56 AM

Me!!! When is the deadline?

Todd

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 16 2020, 08:59 AM)

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 19 2020, 03:42 PM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jan 18 2020, 12:56 AM)

Me!!! When is the deadline?

Todd

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 20 2020, 01:49 AM

say monday?

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 19 2020, 10:42 AM)

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 20 2020, 11:25 AM

I went a really different direction and did something that's more like a background texture than a solo. I hope it works for the composition as a whole! The good news is that it will fit retty much anywhere!
Lemme know what you think.

 Todd_no_backing_track.mp3 ( 1.64MB ) : 63

 Todd_WithBacking.mp3 ( 1.64MB ) : 76

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 21 2020, 01:00 AM

Awesome!! That's a very shreddy Christmas theme!! This will really work. Thanks a lot Todd!!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 22 2020, 11:33 PM

Glad you like it! I Wanted to do something that would be more like a texture underneath rather than my usual flash solo bits that go on top
Todd

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 20 2020, 08:00 PM)

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 30 2020, 10:04 PM

Hi guys! I've been working on this one! It's not an easy track to mix. All those synths combined with clean guitars is giving some EQ headaches!

This tune seems to be one of those tracks that you can listen over and over. It reminds me to Marty Friedman's Scences.

Could you please share your thoughts and let me know if you find your takes in perfect sync?

 Christmas_Collab_Premix.mp3 ( 6.17MB ) : 92


I still can't find the best place for Todd's arrangement. Do you have any ideas? (It's during the last take now).

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 30 2020, 10:18 PM

Sounds great to me buddy.

Could you mix Todd's piece low down in the mix as a background soundscape for a bit of atmosphere?

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 31 2020, 01:14 AM

I think he already did mix me down in the mix as a texture which is what I was thinking would work best Seems to go well at the end as a texture. nice!

Could you mix Todd's piece low down in the mix as a background soundscape for a bit of atmosphere?[/quote]

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 31 2020, 07:57 AM

Ahhh, I only listened on my tablet whilst watching the news, one ear to one of the speakers. I'll have a proper listen as soon as I can.

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jan 31 2020, 12:14 AM)

I think he already did mix me down in the mix as a texture which is what I was thinking would work best Seems to go well at the end as a texture. nice!

Could you mix Todd's piece low down in the mix as a background soundscape for a bit of atmosphere?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 31 2020, 08:48 AM

Wow this is turning out amazing beautiful!! 👌

I think Todd's take works like this. What I would try to experiment with is maybe to add a phaser or similar effect that could take the edge of the high end which in turn could allow you to bring it a little bit forward in the mix (maybe coupled with some slow automated panning).

Posted by: Rids Jan 31 2020, 10:31 AM

Sounds good to me!
Good job, not an easy task but you nailed it as usual!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 31 2020, 01:13 PM

Thanks for the suggestions friends! I'll continue polishing this one!

Posted by: Phil66 Jan 31 2020, 09:18 PM

Now I've listened on my monitors, I'd say just bring Todd's piece up in the mix a little maybe increasing gradually as it goes along. Just a thought

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 31 2020, 10:00 PM

I like kris's idea quite a bit. Some fx should make my bit a bit more "textured". I was thinking it would make a good keyboard type bit. Sorry it's caused so much trouble in the mix!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Feb 6 2020, 11:41 AM

Results are in!!!



This is a EPIC collab -we should listen to it every Christmas! At times I was not sure if I was listening to a student or instructor.

Well done everybody and extra thanks to Gab for putting together!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 6 2020, 01:28 PM

I love this tune, thanks and great job everybody!!!

Posted by: Phil66 Feb 6 2020, 07:05 PM

Absolutely brilliant everyone, loving every take. Stirling job once again from the mighty skills of Gab.

I don't normally pick a favourite take but if I had to, it would have to be Piotr's probably because he's doing what I eventually want to be able to do by understanding enough to incorporate chords within the solo.

This was one of the best collabs, we should release it on iTunes, maybe a full GMC collab album.

Thanks to all who took part, it's this kind of thing that makes GMC unique and a pleasure to be a part of.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Feb 7 2020, 01:58 AM

This would be cool as a long video on the GMC INSTAGRAM imho!! They let you upload long vids now that get shown as IGTV vids on gram!! A short 60second version might be cool as well, even just the first 60 seconds for the instagram feed. Those vids are limited to 60 seconds.

WOW! GREAT work everyone and AMAZING job by GABE. These are nearly impossible to put to gether as a piece of music and he does it every time. I apologize for going off the reservation and doing something that really didn't fit. Gabe made it work !!!!!! next Time I'll play something a bit more straight forward.

Tddd

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Feb 6 2020, 06:41 AM)

Posted by: Adam Feb 7 2020, 02:30 PM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Feb 6 2020, 12:41 PM)

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 10 2020, 04:02 PM

Thanks a lot guys! I think that we are ready for the next one!