So here's our thread for October, we'll do both weekly assignments and month assignments here.
As you can see in MTP info thread I linked you, month assignments must be provided in REC as well.
Now, I thought that it could be good if we use Fusion Jam for month/REC assignment,
you already started working on it and there is plenty of time to polish it nicely.
Of course, you don't have to wait whole month to post it,
you can keep me updated with it every once in a while so I could give you more feedback,
suggestions etc, ok?
As for first weekly assignment I'm giving you another improvised take to make,
use this very Fusion Jam backing and let me hear your ideas and everything.
At the end of the week I would like you to post a video of it.
Lets roll!!
Oh no.. not the improvisation.. You know, this one is a real off beat and I can't get the timing on my head.
Anyway, after a lot of tries, here is what I could get. The timing on the mid section is still off. Sometimes, I get it right sometimes not. Oh the start sounds awful too. I think its too much practice for today. The latter portion seems to be spot on (at least to me).
Hope you like it as well.
This was really nice, you are getting there for sure, keep it up,
we have time till November, I'm sure you'll nail it till then!!
As for improvisation, we really have to work on it since it's probably major part of being a musician,
you don't have to play it this style tho, play anything you want but keep it
logical and with sense, lets go.
Thanks Muris.. will do.
Heres just another take I tried this morning.. wasn't fully satisfied with the earlier one.
Much better!!
I see that main problems appears from 0:20 till 0:27,
bit more work on those licks and it'll be really good.
Be careful with syncopated part tho, from 0:23 till 0:26,
you mustn't land any of those notes on the beat, everything is offbeat.
Thanks Muris. I think I have worked it out. will try recording later tomorrow.. BTW, I also laid out the improvisation. need to practice a little and record.
That's great, keep me posted!
Ok... after about 10 tries of uploading on YouTube, it finally got uploaded. When its not meant to be, its not meant to be. Had to wake up all night. You can't imagine how frustrating it was.
Anyway, here is the improvisation try.
Sorry to hear about upload problems, must have been pain!!
This impro was great tho, some sweet ideas, specially after few first beats.
I said that cause you were obviously guided by timing and chops from original lesson.
But what I would like you to try is to play an impro like if you have never heard of original lesson!!
Play your own thing, own ideas, free yourself from any lick in the lesson.
We have few more days with this task, can I ask for another take?
Hmm.. I tried one again. Will Bm natural scale work well or do we need to stick to B Dorian?
ah .. nooooo.. I have to redo that again! Its okay.
Ok, I was thinking of that too but video does give a good feel. Bad this is it takes bit of a time trying to process and upload. will try audio this time. Thanks Muris.
Oh I meant I did compose the first half again in Bm natural scale so will have to rethink that bit again. No Probs tho.
Ok, here is a try finally.. I didn't know what scale to play on G7.. B Dorian didn't seem to play well.. Anyways, let me know what can be improved.
Thanks Muris.
Oh yeah, now we are talking, well done, great impro!!
And btw, you did really good on G7 chord tho,
you stayed mostly on chords notes which is always safe bet.
But lets discuss this G7 chord and possible scale that can be used over it.
We can focus only on G7 chord related to Bm (or B Dorian to be exact).
What are your thoughts, how would that scale look like, notes?
Thanks Muris. Had a tough time trying to get that impro.. I was like out of vocabulary or something.. struggled a bit.
Here is what I thought, G7 has a note F and then G which are totally out of what B Dorian scale has. So, trying to play B Dorian normally isn't going to work since the notes wouldn't sound good. But the chord also has B and D notes which are in B Dorian Scale. So, we will need to flat 5th and 6th notes of B Dorian.. if I am saying the correct terms.
Is that correct ?
Great.. I still need to understand the theory well.
I did grasp the timing.. need to practice a bit and record.
looking forward to the next assignment.
I went through the replies and that was awesome although the first part didn't make sense to me (too much theoritical) .. I will learn them one by one. I am always thinking in terms of chords/ or what sounds good on a chord and not sticking to a scale. As I said, I still need to learn a lot when it comes to theory. I have been reading a few articles and definitely have learnt intervals, and major scale (and bit of minor scale, I can trace them out given some time) particularly. I have also come to know some modes such as Mixolydian (been doing that a lot), and recently, Lydian and now Dorian.
Can't take all theories at once but few at a time is good. BTW, I am stealing a thread by Emir about playing D major scale all over the neck and been practicing that behind the scenes as well. That was supposed to be secret. ha!
Be sure to ask anything you need about theory, will be pleased to help you!
And here's our next weekly assignment,
it's a AP Lick in key of Am, played over Am, F7 and E7 chords,
kind a blues/jazz feel since it has few chromatic lines,
string skipping is involved as well.
Tempo is 120bpm, try it slow and build up the speed smoothly.
AP_Lick.gp5 ( 2.32K )
: 11
I m on this.. grabbed the notes at 40bpm.. wow.. long way to go. Not sure if 120bpm is possible in a week.
So, what is the trick here, I see there are so many off notes but it sounds good. Landing on the right note at the beat?
I mean the chromatic notes.. sharps than regular Am Scale ?
Thanks Muris for explaining.. I will read that again and grab the whole thing one by one. I have to have guitar to understand.
Anyway, here is another development on my end. Hope its good to post here. Couldn't stop from sharing...
I got my G-force to my friend in US (via ebay) and he will be shipping it very soon to me. Can't wait to try it out. ooo.. so excited!
Congrats, I recall how I was excited when I got it.
okay.. now I understood the theory.
80... arrrg struggling at 90.. the last bit.
yeaaa!! did at 90!
yup.. just did it at 100bpm.. cool now its getting pretty extensive!
My brains kind of slow perhaps.. I saw a video on youtube (on speed) that said.. its just not about practice.. or fingers.. its about how fast you can think..
oh yea.. doing it at 110bpm.. sloppy.
You know what? I just tried at 130bpm.. saw Petrucci on his video gave tips to try on a faster tempo and them come back on the slower, gets a lot easier.
Of course, my fingers just don't move at that speed but definitely thought I would try.. I think I can do up to 114bpm or so.
Oh yeah, pushing things a bit ahead of our current limits
could be quite useful to figure out how our hands should act,
I'm glad you tried it!!
Whatsoever, 114bpm sounds like a fine match, go for it.
I will record a take on Sunday.. been quite busy with work and Saturday is a busy day for me. Hope its okay.
on that note.. I just tried .. and voila.. 120bpm!!! need a bit more practice.. but YEAH I CAN DO IT BABY!!
Of course you can.
OKay.. I tried a lot of times but still doesn't sound so clean.. Should I try a clean tone take?
It was quite descent, good work!!
A clean take (or one with less distortion) would be great tho.
Thanks Muris.. will do.. That was my default lead tone and haven't actually tried any other presets.
Even better,
I noticed only one missed note (over F7 chord),
you passed this as far as I'm concerned,
I'll give you next assignment asap.
How is Fusion Jam going btw?
Don't forget, we need it for REC.
Yep.. thats what happens at fast speed.. Is it on time? Its pretty hard to do that on timing as the notes on the beat are not 'root' note or something that can be easily played. you know..
I haven't practiced fusion jam honestly.. I have been doing this for the whole week and I am glad I reached 120bpm.
will practice for sure.
Thanks Muris. I hope you are having a good weekend. Cheers!!
Btw, I just did a impro in CLydian Collab by David. This one is the fastest one I came up with.. an hour or so.. Otherwise, it takes me like a full day. I am not sure if its appropriate here but I wanted to share and get your feedback. I would love to get some fast riffs and as you can see I get stuck at the same melody or timing thing.. Would love to get some other variations in the same song. ya know..
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=18696
Timing was pretty fine imo, yeah.
I'll give you something easier for last week so that you could focus more
on REC assignment, Fusion Jam.
I'm gonna listen your colab take tho.
Ok, I just listened and here's what I would think of in future, timing phrasing.
If you analyze your take timing wise you'll notice that each phrase
start on the beginning of each bar, first beat.
Cool idea is not to start from there every time, you can start from 2nd 4th or 8th
OR you can start your phrase with pre-beat by starting on, example, 4th beat in previous bar.
hmm.. will try that trick..
I noticed today that the back of my arm (triceps but near the shoulder joint) muscle is aching. Looks like its due to fast pick movement in recent days. I am learning to pick faster.
Not a problem at all. Take your time and rest.
One questions, I am not sure if I asked before, how do we really hold the pick? I think I 'discovered' what my problem is. I have been looking into other videos about speed tips. And there are lots of tips. One of them was controlled motions of both left and right hand, efficiency and what not. So, looks like I am holding the pick too hard, stopping me to move my right hand in a free way and also aching my arm. But I tried losening it a bit and play. The pick tends to slide off my fingers and also in string skips, I tend to miss some notes. I also tried angled pick position for faster picks. I am all confused to what is the best method.. which I still yet to discover. What am I doing wrong here?
It would be quite hard to tell what the best method is,
people hold pick in many ways after all.
But I guess it might have something to do with pick gauge as well,
you need to find out what gauge works the best for you.
In my case, I like heavier gauges, 1.5- 2mm most of the time,
that gives me the option to hold it very gentle while still having enough attack.
As for angle, I probably keep zero angle as much as possible
but this is also a matter of personal preference imo, there is no "right" way.
More research is what you need I guess.
Okay.. I have been playing around. It has improved from where I was before joining GMC but still need to experiment to find the best way.
I use Jazz III picks.. so must be around 2mm.. I used to use very thin 0.85mm 1mm picks but this feels much more comfortable.
I understand that. But I am really feeling the improvement past few weeks. All I need to do is practice.
wow.. timing looks odd.. you are giving me a hard time.
will try and see how this one goes. Thanks Muris.
I was referring to pick gauge but even THAT is solved with more practice,
eventually you'll feel comfortable with different gauges
as your skills get better.
Cool.. will practice more definitely.
Hey Muris, you can't believe this... at least I am not being able to.. I just had breakthrough on synchronization and picking. I have been looking for tonnes of resources videos on youtube and paul gilbert video posted on the other forum this morning (which I had looked before too but never tried properly or at least it took time to figure out). So, combining and been practicing for last 2-3 days and when I tried the Paul Gilberty picking today (angled) for speed.. it seems to be much better and easier ..
and if you remember I complained about my right arm aching? Its still aching but its sweet.. I have now more power to control my picking. OH MAN!! I am on that route now and picky pretty fast. I can play your AP lesson from last week pretty easily. String skipping also seems comfortable now. I was having problem with right hand before but it seems more easy and less strain.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS MTP HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT AND HELPFUL!! I have achieved in this 2 months which I hadn't for last 15 years. I am so happy. I have been diverted this week but its really helping my playing. Another month of AP and I am ready for sweeping or tapping. We do have this MTP till November right?
Hahaha, love that feel!!!
Not sure about deadline for MTP tho, will check out with mods,
you just focus on finishing weekly and monthly assignment, well done.
Yep.. all thanks goes to you... This is what happens when you have a mentor.
ok back to the assignment... How do we actually do this 7 notes grouping thing.. its so odd.
I mean how do we count?
Yep, its 16th notes. I am so used to the next sequence hitting exactly on the first beat, I am feeling this a bit unusual and cannot for god sake control the timing. It feels like I went out of timing. I am doing more of memorizing the timing than actually going with it. Like the first bar has 2 notes from second group and it is giving me hard time trying to take those 2 notes within the first bar and start 2nd bar from the 3rd note. You know what I mean?
Also, I am trying to get the rack for my triaxis, Gforce (which just shipped today and expecting it next week) and future 2:90. What would you recommend? It won't be for touring (don't think I will ever tour) so should look nice and clean.
Thanks.. m trying.
whats a 4HE ?
HE or U means "rack unit".
Triaxis is 1 HE (U), 2:90 is 2 HE (U).
ah.. ok.
So, this is something I am looking if I can find it in Singapore, Thailand.. need to order then.
http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gator-GR-Deluxe-Rack-Case?sku=544792
4 rack space one.. Btw, will triaxis fit well? On the specs I read the inner width was only 12" for Gator GR-4U (standard one).... any ideas? The triaxis it self seems to more than 14" ..
http://www.gatorcases.com/productsmodeldetail.aspx?LID=1&PID=276&MID=10
Oh I was looking at 4S sorry
These cases have a rackable depth of 18.75". The GR-4L fits the Alesis ADAT-HD24, Alesis ADAT-HD24XR, Fostex D2424LV, Tascam DV-RA1000HD, Tascam X-48, and many others.
Yeah, 4 HE is just a number of units and not all units are long equally,
be sure to look in specs nicely before you order.
Sorry for jumping in on this Muris but as its off topic for the MTM I hope you both don't mind-
standard width here is 19 inch. Whilst not all rack gear fits that directly (some is 1/2 some 1/3) with the 'ears' they should all fit 19'' UNLESS they state it. Otherwise,as Muris says, it's height/units and so 4 rack space = 4 1 units or any combination of that 4.
The one thing I'd suggest is to put in a good power conditioner/supply. It will take up 1 unit but will save a lot of effort and issues with wiring and power supply.
Oh yeah, well spotted Tony, some sort of Furman would be quite welcomed here,
I have one as well.
edit: typo
cool.. Thanks Tony for chiming in.. So, do you have any link that I can check? I am thinking of fitting a triaxis, G-Force and a 2:90 (later) so 4 racks in total. I also saw one with the power supply integrated within it. I will recheck. The problem is my triaxis is 110V and I am using a converter (big one) at this point. Changing the power supply seems to be quite impossible as I have seen many having trouble doing that (including Muris here ) I wish they just built universal power supplies.
So, its a pretty tricky situation at this point.
Thanks again.
How are we doing with Fusion Jam?
It's November already and we really need to post it in REC,
as well as legato lick in this topic.
Sorry Muris, was pretty busy (and lazy) to do some recording this weekend. Anyways, tried the Fusion Jam this morning. My right arm somehow was paining (not proper sleep + guitar?) but it went away after I tried it a few times. So, here is what I have.
Ohh, I know that pain (if it comes from sleeping), I use to twist my arm when sleep too often as well!!
I hope it is nothing serious tho and I wish it'll pass soon.
As for take, it was pretty good imo, quite good almost perfect,
there was one tiny moment when you loose timing a bit, 0:39-0:42,
rest of it was really ok and well played, put it in REC for sure.
How is legato lick going?
Thanks Muris.. This timing thing is really really bothering me.. just can't seem to make it right. Not really used to counting and playing. Maybe thats the issue.. I have it up on the REC as well.
I will record the legato in a bit.. still trying to get it right. I can't seem to get the sustain on 7 notes from first note. It dies.
I mean, the whole note doesn't ring continuously.. it is good on first pick and then when hammer ons pull offs gradually decreases the sound.. its okay one other strings but the 1st string as you can listen the take below.
Ohh, but your timing is GOOOOD, you figured it out nicely, what was all that panic about???
Yeah, I can hear that high E string needs more strength with legato,
you should spend more time on that topic in future, why not.
Btw, it could be caused by the position of your fretting hand and where you keep your thumb,
I cannot tell for sure since we have no video but it happens, specially with longer runs.
Anyways, you keep working on it as an exercise, it passed for MTP, stay safe.
I'll open new thread for November MTP asap.
Wow, I didn't expect that.. I tried like a 100 times. I could do it well on like 100bpm or lower but it wasn't just getting right at higher than that. Although, my strength was really Legato (lot of Joe Satriani excercises I guess), I felt this was an easy one (it was) except for the timing. The secret at this point is just memorizing the timing rather than actually tapping and trying to come at exact timing... which I guess is not a good approach.
Yep, I think I have a good base on Legato and AP (now), I still need to focus more on AP at faster speeds without missing the notes and TIMING of course. I will leave legato for now. For next MTP, I would definitely want to start arpeggios / sweeping and then to tapping. For November, I would still want more AP / timing stuff. But I guess you know what lesson to give me.
Anyways, looks like you are leaving for Aussie tomorrow and for whole month. Good luck and enjoy the trip/shows. So, I will see you in the next thread.
Timing it is, we'll focus more on that.
Great.. will look forward to it.
Powered by Invision Power Board (http://www.invisionboard.com)
© Invision Power Services (http://www.invisionpower.com)