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post Oct 9 2018, 07:44 PM
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I've been feeling a need to get out of my comfort zone, not just guitar-related, so I signed up for an introductory in-person lesson at a place I've been eyeing for a while. I kind of need something fresh from life's daily routine and could use a boost in my playing. Any tips or things I should ask/be prepared for? I'm not entirely sure what to expect or how to communicate what I want, except "get better". The first lesson is next Tuesday, and if I decide to continue, are 30 mins long weekly. Will this help?


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post Oct 9 2018, 07:58 PM
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If you're having personal lessons I think you should ask the tutor to make each lesson build on the last. Whenever I've had lessons, I've done my "homework" and the next week I've played what I've learnt and then we'd be onto something unrelated.

Each piece of "homework" should make you think, when I was learning CNC programming, they would show you how to machine a straight line in one direction, a straight line in another direction and then how to join them as two lines continuous lines, they would then say, "here's how you do an arc, now I want you to join an arc to a straight line". What I'm trying to say is they would show you how to do something and then show you something else and you had to work out how to incorporate it into what you'd previously learnt. Obviously this example is at the level of playing basic open chords but I hope you get my meaning.

This is what I didn't like about tutors. There was no syllabus or structure designed around your own level. I guess they're not all the same and some students like a mixed up approach, (I do sometimes) but a gradual learning curve building on the previous lesson each week should do the trick.

You could also just focus on techniques that you feel you need to.

Another thing, some tutor's clocks start when you walk through the door, so unpacking you guitar, tuning and packing away all take time out of your 30 minutes. Some are more casual and if they don't have other students they aren't as strict. I had one teacher who, after my 1 hour lesson, used to play me music and sometimes we'd have a little jam, it could go on for another hour or so but he didn't class it as the lesson, it was in his apartment so that helped, we became friends.

I guess you need to get to know your tutor.

I hope this helps out, excuse my rambling rolleyes.gif



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post Oct 9 2018, 08:33 PM
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This in a large perspective is a bit hard to answer, I mean there are all kinds of tutors out there;

Last year I was interviewed by UG to help for a service for guitar teachers (which never happened), I was one of the last to be interviewed. We had a nice chat with the guy and at one point he said almost all teachers he interviewed were using the material from their teachers...nothing more. This really depressed me cause he interviewed teacher from all over the world.

They are extremely prepared for beginner stuff, but when expectations start shaping its then they realize they can't handle everything. Its not like a Jazz player can't teach metal, but this doesn't mean he can be the best metal teacher either.

Keep some video's of you playing ready for him to watch, ones you specially enjoyed. He might catch something to work on immediately, or he may offer you a program for a goal. My point is its important to focus on that teacher can best teach, what he focused himself personally and a program. Cause no one can be good at everything.

I also think it takes 3-4 lessons minimum for the lesson flow to show itself, if its going to work for you or not so don't worry if first lesson won't reveal everything on how things are going to be.

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post Oct 9 2018, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE (Mertay @ Oct 9 2018, 08:33 PM) *
This in a large perspective is a bit hard to answer, I mean there are all kinds of tutors out there;

Last year I was interviewed by UG to help for a service for guitar teachers (which never happened), I was one of the last to be interviewed. We had a nice chat with the guy and at one point he said almost all teachers he interviewed were using the material from their teachers...nothing more. This really depressed me cause he interviewed teacher from all over the world.


Just curious. What is UG? Is that Ultimate Guitar? Do you mean they taught what their own teachers that had previously taught them? or they were using material from UG? If so I guess their advertising for teachers was on UG and therefore mostly seen by teachers who use UG!


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post Oct 9 2018, 08:57 PM
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Some great advice smile.gif I'd say go in with some rough idea of what you want to work on. Otherwise, it's "dealers choice" and may have nothing to do with what you are trying to achieve.
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post Oct 9 2018, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE (Arpeggio @ Oct 9 2018, 07:43 PM) *
Just curious. What is UG? Is that Ultimate Guitar? Do you mean they taught what their own teachers that had previously taught them? or they were using material from UG? If so I guess their advertising for teachers was on UG and therefore mostly seen by teachers who use UG!


Yeah it was Ultimate guitar, they requested some input from facebook and I signed in.

And yeah most didn't add a single thing to what their teachers thought them which to me was depressing. I hate people who don't develop theirselves or what they do in their profession.

It was actually a service for teachers, teachers upload material (personal or from UG) to UG's website. From there everything the student needed would be transferable even to their phone as homework. I was quite exited about it cause my material is all on word documents, paper, video's...would have been nice to bundle everything to one place where everyone I wanted to could reach.


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post Oct 10 2018, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 9 2018, 12:57 PM) *
Some great advice smile.gif I'd say go in with some rough idea of what you want to work on. Otherwise, it's "dealers choice" and may have nothing to do with what you are trying to achieve.
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Hopefully you picked a teacher/tutor whom you respect and/or has a high reputation.
Let them tell you what you need. That's what you're paying them for.

I don't teach privately very much but when I do the student either comes to me to get a little bit of what "I" have or for me to tell them what they need. Sometimes it can take a couple of lessons for me to really figure out how I can help them - ?


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post Oct 10 2018, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Oct 10 2018, 08:46 AM) *
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Hopefully you picked a teacher/tutor whom you respect and/or has a high reputation.
Let them tell you what you need. That's what you're paying them for.

I don't teach privately very much but when I do the student either comes to me to get a little bit of what "I" have or for me to tell them what they need. Sometimes it can take a couple of lessons for me to really figure out how I can help them - ?


I guess I do have an idea of what I want. Communicating it effectively in 30 mins seems challenging, but I think I can. "Let them tell you what you need" is going to be my approach, that was what I was thinking but was having a hard time saying it so clearly. Thanks Ken and everyone for your comments, hopefully this can push me past my current plateau.

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post Jan 12 2019, 10:16 PM
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Meh, I'm back smile.gif Too much money, inconvenient schedule, back to setting my own goals. I've been really into fuzz lately, so I'm going with that. Built a Basic Audio Scarab Deluxe, DAM Meathead and a Skreddy Lunar Module Deluxe, all highly recommended!

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post Jan 13 2019, 05:47 AM
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Welcome back smile.gif Yeah, it's an entire set of new issues to juggle when going for a set time/date for getting lessons. It's often much more direct to just do it whenever you like by logging in to GMC smile.gif That said, if one has the time/money/patience/etc. adding an instructor can be of great benefit. The instructor should be able to guide a given student based on seeing the student play. Hopefully a student would have some idea of where they are trying to go/learn, or he/she risks going to lessons that don't end up yielding what they wanted to get out of it to start with. Then again, if they have no idea what they want to get out of it, then letting the instructor figure it out is probably the best plan. I didn't benefit from lessons until I already knew how to play. Before that I was considered "unteachable" by several instructors and I can't blame them. The lessons bored me to death. I wanted to simply play guitar. Not stare at sheet music. It wasn't til I learned to play that I gained the patience and desire to stare at sheet music.

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QUOTE (yoncopin @ Jan 12 2019, 05:16 PM) *
Meh, I'm back smile.gif Too much money, inconvenient schedule, back to setting my own goals. I've been really into fuzz lately, so I'm going with that. Built a Basic Audio Scarab Deluxe, DAM Meathead and a Skreddy Lunar Module Deluxe, all highly recommended!


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QUOTE (yoncopin @ Jan 12 2019, 06:16 PM) *
Meh, I'm back smile.gif Too much money, inconvenient schedule, back to setting my own goals. I've been really into fuzz lately, so I'm going with that. Built a Basic Audio Scarab Deluxe, DAM Meathead and a Skreddy Lunar Module Deluxe, all highly recommended!



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QUOTE (yoncopin @ Jan 12 2019, 10:16 PM) *
Meh, I'm back smile.gif Too much money, inconvenient schedule, back to setting my own goals. I've been really into fuzz lately, so I'm going with that. Built a Basic Audio Scarab Deluxe, DAM Meathead and a Skreddy Lunar Module Deluxe, all highly recommended!


It's all about being inspired, and it seems you know exactly what you need to achieve that wink.gif

Also I agree with what's been said here. The sole purpose of a private instructor is to understand YOUR needs/goals - and help you get there. To achieve this, it is crucial to have a good chemistry with your instructor.


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