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Posted by: superize Dec 10 2008, 08:24 PM

I am practising Lians new Power metal lesson and since i am a better rythm player i nailed the rythm pretty quick but i am having hard time with the solo. I cant really get my lead playing to sound good...

I recorded a video when i play it at 110 bpm(full speed 150)

 Video_60.wmv ( 4.47MB ) : 169

Posted by: kjutte Dec 10 2008, 08:55 PM

QUOTE (superize @ Dec 10 2008, 08:24 PM) *
I am practising Lians new Power metal lesson and since i am a better rythm player i nailed the rythm pretty quick but i am having hard time with the solo. I cant really get my lead playing to sound good...

I recorded a video when i play it at 110 bpm(full speed 150)

 Video_60.wmv ( 4.47MB ) : 169


First of all, to play a good solo you need feeling.
I'd say 90% of feeling is a good bend and vibrato technique!

I think you should work on this.
Also, soundwise, your tone is very dry.

Try this eq: mid 10, bass 6, treble 6 - and put some reverb on (if you don't have delay.).
In this solo, reverb would prolly be better, as it is a non-melodic metal solo (meaning it's not ballad'ish.)

Try it and give some feedback!

Posted by: opeth.db Dec 10 2008, 09:00 PM

QUOTE (kjutte @ Dec 10 2008, 02:55 PM) *
First of all, to play a good solo you need feeling.
I'd say 90% of feeling is a good bend and vibrato technique!


First thing I zoned in on is that you had no feeling in your solo playing. Very stiff.
KJutte is absolutely correct.

Posted by: fkalich Dec 10 2008, 09:04 PM

QUOTE (superize @ Dec 10 2008, 02:24 PM) *
I am practising Lians new Power metal lesson and since i am a better rythm player i nailed the rythm pretty quick but i am having hard time with the solo. I cant really get my lead playing to sound good...

I recorded a video when i play it at 110 bpm(full speed 150)

 Video_60.wmv ( 4.47MB ) : 169


1) You are not using a backing here. This has been my major criticism of the site, since forever, that full versions are not provided (except by O'Toole) that are naked play. They should provide a version like that along with the one with backing, that is just common sense. But nobody but one does it. It is difficult for really sound good without backing, because you really do have to sound good. Because that is not provided, it creates unrealistic expectations, and is confusing for people, it really is. Don't know why nobody but me seems to understand that.
2) Don't worry about speed. I have seen you here, and you are on your way to being a fine guitarist, I am sure of that, You need to focus on your vibrato more, you notes are not all in tune, you have to put somthing on them, get them all to sound sweet and in tune. Somehow, do something with them. Sometimes just a a little bend, or a tremolo action, just someting to make them all sound sweet. That is the only issue, some of your notes are a bit sour.

But don't take it wrong, you have musical talent, that is clear.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Dec 10 2008, 09:04 PM

Superize, I think you did great, just need to relax a bit which will come in time. Also more work is needed on the vibratos in order to really make them wide and firm mate.

Posted by: superize Dec 10 2008, 09:06 PM

QUOTE (fkalich @ Dec 10 2008, 09:04 PM) *
1) You are not using a backing here. This has been my major criticism of the site, since forever, that full versions are not provided (except by O'Toole) that are naked play. They should provide a version like that along with the one with backing, that is just common sense. But nobody but one does it. It is difficult for really sound good without backing, because you really do have to sound good. Because that is not provided, it creates unrealistic expectations, and is confusing for people, it really is. Don't know why nobody but me seems to understand that.
2) Don't worry about speed. I have seen you here, and you are on your way to being a fine guitarist, I am sure of that, You need to focus on your vibrato more, you notes are not all in tune, you have to put somthing on them, get them all to sound sweet and in tune. Somehow, do something with them. Sometimes just a a little bend, or a tremolo action, just someting to make them all sound sweet. That is the only issue, some of your notes are a bit sour.

But don't take it wrong, you have musical talent, that is clear.


I was playing with the backing but i maybe was on to low volume

Posted by: kjutte Dec 10 2008, 09:08 PM

QUOTE (fkalich @ Dec 10 2008, 09:04 PM) *
1) You are not using a backing here. This has been my major criticism of the site, since forever, that full versions are not provided (except by O'Toole) that are naked play. They should provide a version like that along with the one with backing, that is just common sense. But nobody but one does it. It is difficult for really sound good without backing, because you really do have to sound good. Because that is not provided, it creates unrealistic expectations, and is confusing for people, it really is. Don't know why nobody but me seems to understand that.
2) Don't worry about speed. I have seen you here, and you are on your way to being a fine guitarist, I am sure of that, You need to focus on your vibrato more, you notes are not all in tune, you have to put somthing on them, get them all to sound sweet and in tune. Somehow, do something with them. Sometimes just a a little bend, or a tremolo action, just someting to make them all sound sweet. That is the only issue, some of your notes are a bit sour.

But don't take it wrong, you have musical talent, that is clear.


I agree on the tone vs backing thing, but I think it is important to play without a backing also to improve your tone.

QUOTE (superize @ Dec 10 2008, 09:06 PM) *
I was playing with the backing but i maybe was on to low volume


Don't worry, it will always sound like that unless you either have a studio with a good cab mic infront of cab, or put guitar to computer like the rest of us.

Posted by: Sami Dec 10 2008, 09:10 PM

yeah your rythmn is great dude! You've definitely got all the notes down on the solo, and thats the first part of the battle. I would just say work on giving the notes of the solo some more conviction, with vibrato, etc. Some times putting your all into it works too smile.gif But then you make funny faces XD feel the solo while your playing it smile.gif

Posted by: opeth.db Dec 10 2008, 09:39 PM

QUOTE (kjutte @ Dec 10 2008, 03:08 PM) *
Don't worry, it will always sound like that unless you either have a studio with a good cab mic infront of cab, or put guitar to computer like the rest of us.


Or get one of these like me! smile.gif


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