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Posted by: Jakub Luptovec May 3 2009, 08:17 PM

Dear GMC'ersm

well so.. for quite some time I have been thinking about having some pet. I used to have dog, but HAVING to walk it was too much of hassle for me (especially in the morning:D) and also dogs stink to me.. and i hate when they bark all the time

Angry note:
my best friend has dog, and I was about to kill it a few times - we were drinking at his place one day, and at 4:00 am we were kinda... sleepy lying on beds, chilling off, falling asleep... and that vile creature started barking.. I almost wet myself from that shock. Then he stopped for a while... and then started again.. i wanted to throw him out of balcony, but my friend stopped me...

After some deciding, I found out, that cat might be perfect choice for me.. Marcus has them (maybe they influence his playing? ) and they are sooo cute

Well my mother is afraid of it, scratching our furniture, pooing and looing on our carpets, puking in her bed and whatever... What is it like to have a cat? How long does it take to learn to go poo and loo on specified post? I also heard it can be educated to use toliet like humans is that true? Also aer they expensive, in terms of doctors, food, accesories etc?

Any help appreciated

Posted by: Canis May 3 2009, 08:22 PM

I used to have the most awesome cat!
She was trained to use a litterbox, so we had no worries there. She ate both wet- and dryfood (no idea if that's what it's called on english), which isn't too expensive.
If you're lucky enough to get a smart cat, you can train it to use scratch-toys instead of furniture.. Something our cat saw no logic in

I think our own fkalich is the cat-expert with more advice, though ^^

Posted by: AlexLion May 3 2009, 09:42 PM

Aahahha agree

Cats are very easily adapted to a litterbox, and usually there are no puking\pooing around (hopefully) And they are very cute! But about scratching... we have special toys but they like to use furniture also when no one sees :|

I heard about cats using a toilet but I can`t imagine how it will look

Ah, also if they aren`t sterilized some problems can appear

p.s. - I agree with you about dogs

Posted by: sted May 4 2009, 08:12 AM

Ive got two cats mate (One is a 14 week old kitten), if you think dogs stink wait till you smell a fresh kitty dump in a tray first thing in the morning when you're eating your corn flakes.

CAT FACTS:

A kitten will still keep you up at night coz they are lunatics for the first six months and naturally nocturnal.

Your furniture will take a pounding off their claws.

They need to be house trained, although mostly they will go to a litter box naturally if its available.

They do cost money: 2 sets of needles for a kitten at around 30 pounds each, neutering is around 90 pounds, food for a kitten and special milk (DO NOT give them normal milk, it can really do them harm!) for a week is around 10-15 pounds, flea treatment (Like frontline) is around 20 pounds every 3 months.

Cats will fight with other cats, they will scowl and howl at each other in the middle of your garden then try and claw each others eyes out, more vet bills. If you have a dominant tom around your area and you have a boy kitten, the Tom will not be pleased, a real bruiser will almost certainly try and kill a small male kitten.

Cats are by nature very independent, if youre lucky you may get an affectionate one, chances are though that once they start going out they will lose most of their interest in you and only want you for sleep and food, neutering helps as they wont roam as much but they are still basically quite anti social.

Personally i think you're nuts for wanting one, my wife is a cat lover and i love dogs, they are faithful, friendly and always up for a walk, fetch sticks etc

Cats would sooner lick their balls and go to sleep in front of the fire, those are the facts mate!

Posted by: Dejan Farkas May 4 2009, 08:25 AM

Let me ask you something..

What is the reason you want to have a pet?

edit: Please check the following link for more info

http://cats.about.com/od/newtocats/tp/beforeadoptingacat.htm

Posted by: AlexLion May 4 2009, 08:27 AM

You made my day!!! It`s so familiar, I have two cats also
I always have wondered why they need to go and use litterbox when I`m starting to eat?!? Allmost all the time..


p.s. 90 pounds for neutering? OMG, you guys are sick in UK.

And they don`t need flea treatment if they don`t go outside, ok if one do and other not, it`s another story .. Unreal prices you got there..


In conclusion I would say you can get many positive emotions from cats and they usually take away your negative, but there are also not so enjoyable things you need to do: cleaning their toilet in time, get them food in time, watching them, when you hear strange noises from kitchen exactly then, when you are really busy etc etc..
But if you will be good with them they will be good with you When cat give you a "massage" it`s very enjoyable, until you are only in t-shirt

Posted by: facjata May 4 2009, 10:21 AM

i've got 2 cats, and i must agree with AlexLion. yes, they wake you up at 4am, but then they purr so loud, and they're so cute(especially young ones), that you forget, that it's night, and you start playing with them

about using toilet, my cats can drink water from it only but they can use their one, but it must be clean.

and cats leave their fur, especially after winter, if they are going outside. i don't know how it is, when they are at home only, but i must vacuum my house about 3 times in the week becaouse of their fur

but this disadvantages don't matter, when you see, how cute, and funny are they, when they're playing with water, fighting with their tails, etc.

oh, and sometimes they like to listen to music! my cat always comes to my room, when i jam with my father! even if i do some pinch shiftings, which should frighten him.

so, cats make some troubles, but i think, they are the best pets, just get one and you will see

Posted by: fkalich May 4 2009, 11:16 AM

I have 8 cats.

Get a cat. They are all different. But all are neat. No, they are not going to go in your toilet.
Yes, it has been done. No, you would get yours to do it.

Scoopable cat litter is really a great invention. It allows you to keep the litter box real clean, things clump and you just scoop it out, leaving clean litter.

Don't get a dog unless you are willing to make a commitment in time and patience.

So long as you get your cat neutered before maturity, you should not have problems with a cat.

I would go to the animal shelter and rescue one. I would also get one of those "Petmate" cat fountains. Walmart sells them for about $30. They really like those. I just let them graze eating the Purina cat chow. But most nights I will open up a small can of cat food and they all share it. They really like Wisker Lickin's Tartar Control cat treats, those are like Kitty Crack.

These are my cats:

1) Sweetie: One of my first two. She should be named Princess Sweetie. She smothers me with cat kisses at least once a day. She is a mother. When she had her babies, she grabbed me by my pants leg and made me stay with her, would not even let me get any coffee. I remember how much I wanted coffee, but I had to stay with Sweetie till she was done. I thought she was done after 3, and went to get coffee. When I got back, there were 2 more.

2) Buddy: I got him the day after I got Sweetie, 11 years ago. He is top cat, but not mean. Very sensitive though, he gets upset when I get mad at him. I got him neutered a few days too late, she he and Sweetie did the number, and I ended up with more kitties, three of which I kept. I found a good home for the other 2 that I did not keep.

3) Sunshine: Second one out of the womb. Loves me to death, she looks like Buddy.

4) Wooskie: Looks like Sweetie. My cat from hell. But she loves me. Stays outside all the time, best place for a cat from hell.

5) Daisy: Looks like Sweetie. She loves her mommy and daddy, always wants to sleep with them.

Ok, that is the family. I also have 3 strays. I did not intend to keep any of them. Never start being nice to a stray, unless you want to keep it, because once you start, that is the way it will end up.

6) White Kitty: She sleeps with me most of the time. Either her or Tom Tom. BoBo my dog also does, when it is White Kitty. He is a bit cautious about Tom Tom. Sometimes Scampy does also. Well they all do some, but there is only so much room. I think White Kitty is my oldest cat. Have had her 8 years. I tried to give her to my sister, she was living under cars in my neighborhood. But my sister's dogs tried to killer her, and my brother-in-law said "I think you have another cat now".

7) Tom Tom: He is my biggest cat. But he knows that Buddy is Top Cat. He used to come by and visit, 6 years ago, lived on the next street. Then one day his collar was gone (abandoned). I eventually took him in. He likes to walk on my back, and because he is so fat, gives me a great back massage. He chases Scampy some, but I just spray him with water when he does that. He looks funny running away from me when that happens, because he has a big fat butt.

8) Scampy: Got him 3 years ago. He used to come by when he was a kitty. He had tags, I figured it would be ok to make friends with him. But the owner neglected him, he was freezing in the winter, injured, getting into fights. I sort of took care of him for about 6 weeks, built him an outdoor shelter. I guess she did not want the cat, I never heard from her. So I took him in. He is a sweet cat, and accepts that he is lowest cat on the totem pole here. But outside, I have to watch it, he will fight other strange cats. So I never let him out at night anymore. But in my house, he knows all other cats are above him in the hierarchy, he defers to all of them.


Anyway, maybe that gives you an idea. I would say, unless you are the type of person who only likes those who will cower to you, and I don't think you are, you will love a cat. They put up with you, but they don't cower to anyone, they consider themselves a superior species to us big monkeys. Dogs consider us their equals, but cats figure they are doing us a favor by living with us.

Posted by: Artemus May 4 2009, 11:32 AM

Cat owner and lover here.
My main recommendation is the same as I have for dogs - don't go buying a kitten/puppy.
Go to a cat sanctuary and pick a cat (or let a cat choose you). It can be a little heartbreaking to see all those abandoned animals but you'll see cats that have developed their personalities and when you find the cat for you, believe me, they'll love you for provided a caring and cosy home for them away from the stinky, horrible sanctuary.
This is how I came about my cat and she's the most affectionate and strangely loyal cat I've ever known. Plus, she's completely house trained - never had any mess around the house. She asks to be let out (in some rather amusing ways) to do her thing including scratching the next door neighbours garden furniture/dogs.
The only thing is to not annoy a cat - they will find retribution Think horses head from the Godfather movie. I have some amusing stories there.. such as receiving a "present": a dead guinea pig belonging to the neighbour's youngest daughter.
My other half believes a tongue-in-cheek philosophy that god is a cat.. think about it
Here's some funny pics to convince you cats are cool!

http://www.roflcat.com
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http://www.roflcat.com

Posted by: Frederik May 4 2009, 12:07 PM

Keep a pumped super-soaker in reach if they walk on the tables or scrath the furniture, they hate it

-Frederik

Posted by: AlexLion May 4 2009, 12:10 PM

How about that

Posted by: Jakub Luptovec May 4 2009, 12:40 PM

Dejan: After reading Fkalichs, Artemus's and AxelLion's stories, I wonder if there is any reason why NOT to have a cat:) And those photos are sooo cute:)

I was also talking to one (extra hot:) ) girl in my class today, who has cats and she seemed to like the idea of me getting cat:D she also told me that their "natural calling" needs are kinda instinctive in terms of keeping things clean:)

A little heartbreak story
But to be honest with you guys, my main reason is, my girlfriend just left me after 4 years of relationship and I am kinda stricken by it and I dont even want another one - I just dont trust them anymore. I was trying to give her everything.. so many time and effort... for nothing. I just dont want to go thru this again
and this is from where the pet part is comming..

I feel alone and in need of someone I can care for and watch over. Someone to dedicate my time to, someone to await me, when I come home. Is it a good reason?

Posted by: fkalich May 4 2009, 12:45 PM

Agree, always shop for your pet at the shelter.

Great pictures. Everyone thinks their cats are the best cats. Here are a few pictures.

Daisy Sleeping with here Daddy Buddy


BoBo with Scampy (it it were Tom Tom, BoBo would be long gone)


Me Torturing BoBo, by putting cookie right by the Paw of Scampy


Here are some Ducks I took care of at a local pond last year (they left and joined a flock of Mallards when the pond froze over in December


Cats in one of the Cat Houses


Tom Tom and Daisy


My Darling Sweetie (The Mother Cat)

Posted by: tonymiro May 4 2009, 12:47 PM

Where we live - in the countryside - you don't have to get a cat as they tend to come and find you. At the moment we have two cats and a dog (we had 4 cats but two died). Both our cats are house trained to go out for the toilet so no litter tray here . It took about 6 weeks for the more stupid of the two to learn what to do but the other picked up the idea after less than 3 weeks. Both our cats are out at night as well - inside during the day to sleep and like Artemus' cat ours ask to be let out.

Main expenses are vet bills and food. Vet is rabies and flu vaccination annually plus flea, tick and worming tablets. Here the neutering was 50 Euros each cat including the drugs etc, rabies/flu was about 30 Euros. For food they get dry cat food twice a day plus wet/tinned once a day - plus the birds, mice and lizards they catch - and they drink water.

Like fkalich's cats ours have distinct personalities. The older one (2 years old) Hermita is a large black female and very easy going and quiet. She's also very tolerant of the other, younger cat and looks after her a lot. Hermita has never scratched the furniture btw. The other cat is Estrella (10 months old). She's part seal point Siamese and part local. She's very pretty but also is a bit thick and much more vocal than Hermita.

If you live in a city try getting a rescue/animal sanctuary cat rather than one from a pet shop or a breeder. Also, as Dejan says, if you get one do it for the right reasons - cats (and dogs) are for life, and there are already many that sadly get abandoned.

Posted by: fkalich May 4 2009, 12:54 PM

All 8 cats of mine go in the same big litter box (60lbs of cat litter). All the time. They are instinctively clean.

And yes is it an easy way to get a lot of love, and that is a good reason.

All pictures were neat, I enjoyed looking at other cats



We want pictures Tony.

And yes about the shelter. Just go to the shelter, to the cat room. If possible, get an adult, they have the harder time finding a home. And it is not like you train a young cat, it is not like dogs.

Also people just dump cats, good or not. A lot of times they get rid of problem dogs, they keep good dogs, but with cats, people get rid of them, good or not. So by all odds, they won't be a problem in a shelter. With dogs you have to be a bit careful, but I still got my dog at a shelter, and I consider him a grade A class dog, could not ask for more.

Posted by: AlexLion May 4 2009, 01:04 PM

This thread getting very interesting Fkalich thanks for photos I enjoyed looking at your pets too Your white cat(Scampy?) and orange one are especcialy cute


Sorry to hear that Jakub, I hope you`ll back enjoying life soon

Posted by: Jakub Luptovec May 4 2009, 01:15 PM

Well my friends-grandmas-cat (seriously guys, how to type this right? its a cat that belongs to grandma of my friend ) bred a bunch of kittens two days ago, so I planned to get one of those young ones but since all of you are saying to get an older cat - what are the pros and cons of both of those options?

I also found out, that we used to have a cat (it is looooong time ago tho - I was a baby back then) and my mother caught toxoplasmosis from it. Was it just that one cat, or its mums alergy or something?

Posted by: AlexLion May 4 2009, 01:39 PM

Well I don`t know what is toxoplasmosis.. But I know some person have allergy on cat\dog fur. So you`ll better knew if your mom has it, then no pets :/

Personally I think you should take young ones, because you will be nurturing\feeding him and he will be very thankful to you soon when he grows up abit, and young ones like to play very much Crap, I can`t say all that I want because lack of words... My two cats was about 2 weeks old when I get them. Now they are 10 years old(Ника- black one) and 1.5 years old (Латик-orange one ).

Posted by: Jakub Luptovec May 4 2009, 02:10 PM

I would prefere a young one too (just for the feeling of being their parent:)) but I heard, they are hard to train (respectively unable to train, in contrary to dogs) and those in shelter are taugh that already. I also want to name it myself:D Iscat able to recognize its name as dog? and recognize some simple commands as "come here" etc?

Posted by: tonymiro May 4 2009, 02:10 PM

AFAIK toxoplasmosis isn't an allergy but caused by a parasite being transferred from the host. Cats sometimes have the parasite and if they do they can pass it on. I think that it's pregnant women and young babies that tend to be most at risk from toxoplasmosis. AFAIK the risk to healthy adult humans is pretty low.

We've brought up cats from birth and also adopted them as kittens/young adults. Bringing them up from birth takes a lot of time and care. You may find it more rewarding to have them as kittens after they've been weened off their mother - when they're about 8 weeks old.

Posted by: Jakub Luptovec May 4 2009, 02:21 PM

Thats what was my plan - to let them be weened by their mother and then take them. What sort of care do they need after that?

Posted by: AlexLion May 4 2009, 02:31 PM

They able to train of course if you willing spent time on them ( circus cats are usual cats just trained alot). I think all can be trained\achieved in this world if you put your time, mind and soul to it
My cats easily recognize when I`m or other family member call them and usually they run to see why someone calling them (especcially if you call them from kitchen ). Well I think you could train them some simple commands without much effort (I didn`t tried myself ), but they are not so loyal as dogs, so you must expect that they just don`t want to "come here" or something.


THat dude seems a bit rough to them =|

Posted by: tonymiro May 4 2009, 03:11 PM

Yes I'd agree with Alex - cats tend to be intelligent and so are trainable. However they also tend to be very independent so training may take a bit of effort.

Kittens need more care as it's sort of like caring for a toddler. They need to be fed more often - depending on their age - and have more food intolerances than an adult cat. They'll need to be kept in doors 24/7 for quite a while until they know where they live, have developed their immune systems and are able to run and hide from other animals. In essence you take the place of the mother cat and need to feed, nurture and keep them safe.

Some general pointers that may help are:

Always make sure that they have clean water ready to drink and clean their food bowl after each meal.

Provide a dark,dry place that they can sleep and where they feel safe. They may not want to sleep in the place where you choose btw so you may have to move their bed/basket to their safe place. The bed/basket needs to be warm, dry and draught free - kittens can get a chill/cold quite easily.

Kittens often get stuck behind furniture when they run to hide but do let them explore just make sure the area is safe - no sharp or dangerous things lying about. be prepared to move furniture - I've had to unbolt and remove supposedly built in ovens and fridges to get at 'stuck' kittens before. A frightened kitten will try to get away and may scratch and bite - it may be better to let it escape and hide rather than grab it (unless it's trying to get out of the house too soon).

Be prepared to spend lots of time looking after and playing with the kitten.

As soon as you can take the kitten to the vet to be neutered and vaccinated.

You'll need to groom it with a suitable comb or brush - you can rain a kitten to accept a bath as well but use kitten/cat friendly detergents/shampoos.

If you want to put a collar on your kitten make sure its the sort that will break easily if it gets caught so that the cat doesn't get strangled.

Be gentle. It's very easy to hurt a kitten and even break a bone. When you pick it up make sure you support it properly.

From experience kittens sometimes fall when they're exploring and can hurt themselves - if it get's up too high you need to get it down. BTW cats do land on their feet when they fall but they can hurt themselves as their chins can bang in to the floor really hard.


Some things you may want to buy:

A food and a water bowl.

A bed/basket

A couple of cat toys.

A suitable brush/comb.

A good carry box.

Posted by: AlexLion May 4 2009, 03:23 PM

Wow now that`s a lot of info Tony and it`s very true

btw why someone would want to put a collar on a kitten?!
Ok if it`s adult cat and you want to go with him outside(of course if cat wants outside), but they hate collars (or anything you try to put on them, they want immediately to get it off) and especcially they hate when you trying to get them where they don`t want to go. I tried once and saw that this is useless and unenjoyable to a cat, so I forgot about that

Posted by: Dejan Farkas May 4 2009, 03:32 PM

I asked you that question to see your reason, and in a way to make you question yourself why do you want to have a cat and are you able to take care for it. I have a cat and a dog living with me in my apartment, and for me they are not pets anymore, they are part of my family and I commited myself to them, and organize my life that way.

I cannot judge your reason, if you will provide a good home for any animal it would be great, but would not like if that cat gets kicked out if it ruins some furniture, or if you find a girlfrend that do not like cats, if you know what I mean

And the main difference between cats and dogs, dogs will adore you even if you treat them bad, cats are different, you have to earn their love

On the link I gave you in the previous post there are some info that can be of help to decide whether to adopt or not.

Posted by: tonymiro May 4 2009, 03:37 PM

Totally agree Alex but I've seen it done lots of times. I know one person who puts a collar on her kittens and the collar has a bell which she thinks is cute. The kitten hates it and has hurt its claws trying to get the collar off but still the woman won't remove it .

We've never put collars on any of our cats or kittens - and now that you can microchip a kitten well is there really any need?

Posted by: fkalich May 4 2009, 03:58 PM

they grow up fast, really. And I think sometimes the ones that have had a hard time and ended up in a shelter, really appreciate you more. I know the 2 I got at 8 weeks, and the 3 that were their babies, are different from my 3 strays. Really I love them all, but the strays I think appreciate more what they get, the others expect it, they are more spoiled, they have never known what it was to suffer from cold, hunger, etc.

Cats won't have bad behavior from living in a shelter. Really. And all 8 of mine use the litter box fine. So long as a cat is neutered, it should not be a problem, certainly not after you have had it just a little while, and it feels safe and secure.
Just adopt one, and then take it to a vet for shots. It will be fine. You can talk the the shelter about possible problems, and I am sure they will give you some assurance. We have a great shelter here, they never kill animals. The community supports them very well. They even provide some people with money to get the animal neutered, when the person can't afford it. That is important, a pet that has not been fixed is a real potential problem. You don't do them a favor by not neutering them. I got Buddy neutered, I thought in time. But I did not realize that the male cat can still impregnate the female for several days after castration, they still have a supply left in their tubes. That is what happened to me. The day after he got fixed, I came home from work, and he was mounted on her. I figured "can't do anything". I even snapped a picture. Then about 6 weeks later I went out of town for 4 days and left a lot of food, and came back and thought "gee, you sure look fatter Sweetie". And then I noticed her nipples were standing out. That is when I found out that I should have kept Buddy away from her for several days after he was castrated.



I put a color on mine, with a tag, because I think there is more chance that some pscyho might harm a cat without a collar. They are breakaway colors. I would not put one on a kitten. But all my cats go out at least a little.




I don't know about that on dogs. Dogs cause you problems when you mistreat them. They may still be attached to you, but they may also cause you problems. I am the only one of my brothers and sisters, that has a dog that listens, that has not bad issues. They all had dogs with behavior problems. Sure they loved them, but they loved peeing in the house too. Mine would explode before he did that. I also like having a dog that would never bite anyone, I raised him special, to make sure he had none of that in him. He will bark at night if anyone come around the house. That is enough, I don't want a dog that might bite someone. Mine does not know what mean is. That is the kind of dog I wanted. You have to do certain things to get a dog to be that way, and you have to do these things when they are puppies.

Posted by: tonymiro May 4 2009, 04:26 PM

One of our most affectionate cats, Blackie, was a stray as well fkalich. She was always just grateful when we fed her. When Blackie first arrived at ours she was pregnant and she gave birth two nights after - this was when she was maybe about 9 months old.

Our vet told us that Hermita was pregnant some time ago. I said that she was too young (she was 4 months old) and the vet x-rayed her to check. Outcome was, 'Sorry she's not pregnant just fat'. Female domesticated cats however need to be neutered as early as possible @ 6 months. Leave longer and expect kittens.

Our other stray - Boca - spent months where he'd hide when we put food down for him. He'd wait until we left before he'd come and eat as he just didn't trust humans at all. It took a long time, over a year, before he came to trust us. Sadly Boca died just over a year ago from poison. I spent 48 hours injecting him with vitamin k, hydrating him and force-feeding him GAC every 4 hours but his liver was shot and his heart couldn't pump the thickened blood .

Around here very few cats are neutered as they are 'farm cats' - they're semi-domesticated cats kept to keep down vermin. Farm cats here tend to have a very hard and a very short life. The logic is that the population number self-regulates . May be rationale but to me it's not reasonable.

All of our cats we regard as domesticated so we keep ours neutered.

Yes - I think that's a good enough reason as there are some sad people who think it's ok to hurt a stray.

Posted by: Jakub Luptovec May 4 2009, 05:00 PM

:-O they exist? maybe allergic girlfriend, but then she will have to get resistant to it:D I also doubt, that I would like girl, that hates cats - I sort of like girls with that cats grace and cuteness, so she would most probably feel her as her blood But yes, I can see where you are comming from - thats why I opened this thread and why I am trying to gather as much info as I can. You guys are such a huge help.. all of your posts are really informative and inspirative as well.

Just to sum it up, is it really such a huge effort, to raise a kitten? I need to count the pros and cons and see what will be better for the animal. I guess I'll be happy with adult cat as well (but those kittens are just sooo cute ), but first of all, I want to have a happy, healthy cat to which I will be able to provide all it needs

Posted by: AlexLion May 4 2009, 06:04 PM

I think you could get 3-4 weeks old kitten From that period they start to eat not only milk mix, but also special food for kittens (wet, lol, not that dry pieces) and (ok here I used translator so something maybe horribly wrong :\ ) low-fat cottage cheese, low-fat beef, fish and egg yolk. And from that period you don`t need to feed them over night anymore. Once in 4 hours approximately will be good. And usually when kitten is hungry he start to mew and pretty loud

After all it`s not that big job to nurture a kitten, and it`s much more enjoyable and rewardable(?!) when he grows up a bit. Ok if you take 3-5 days old kitten, it`s completely another story.

Posted by: Jakub Luptovec May 4 2009, 08:42 PM

Well, I guess I have all the infos I need to make the right choice:) My mother just agreed, I am allowed to get a kitten as my 19th birthday gift:) It will take a cca six weeks from now since I will get it:) Will post pictures ASAP. I am pretty sure, I will have a happy birthday this year;)

Just a last tip - him or her?

To Tonymiro, AlexLion, Fkalich, Canis, Sted, Facjata, Dejan and Artemus - Huuuge thanks guys:) You showed once more, GMC is the coolest place to be

(sorry if I forgot anyone:) wasnt my intention )

Posted by: Canis May 4 2009, 08:53 PM

Np ^^

In my opinion, I like female cats better. Maybe it's just coinsidence, but the female ones I've come across seem less agressive

Posted by: AlexLion May 4 2009, 09:04 PM

I agree GMC members are so helpful
As I observed male species usually are more active, and more willing to play ( and destroy something ), also they run like mad across the house when they bored and willing to get some attention Female are more calm and not so unpredictable. Well it`s in general of course.

Canis of course they are less agressive. Any male species are agressive by it`s nature ( human`s too)

Posted by: tonymiro May 4 2009, 09:10 PM

Nice one Jakub and look forward to seeing the pics (I'll post some of our cats when I can).

Female cats, least in my experience, are easier, tend to stay closer to home then males and are less aggressive like Canus says. Cats though often tend to chose their owners - so you could go to the cat sanctuary intending to get a queen and come away with a tom .

You can always do what my wife does and get several - she starts by saying , 'We'll get only one cat!' then she sees them and goes, 'They're so cute I want them all!!!' .

Posted by: Jakub Luptovec May 4 2009, 09:48 PM

Yes, I can see it happen, that first I will have my own cat, then my mother will want one for herself, then one, which we will shaer together.. and then one more, so they are two pairs...

Posted by: Hisham Al-Sanea May 4 2009, 10:08 PM

i have one but you need a special food and special sand that's would be more healthy

Posted by: Marc_Maiden May 4 2009, 10:11 PM

well if the cat gets on your angry side,

you would have to thow it off the balcony 9 times before shes dead hahaha

Posted by: besip May 4 2009, 11:37 PM

skus tuhle rasu tahle vypada dobre a podle mne neni zhulena jen se proste povedlo super video

{try that one}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMyvDknDexU

take easy

Posted by: Dejan Farkas May 5 2009, 12:44 PM

I don't have any experience with female cats, but for males it is recommended to neuter before their hormones start to work, I did mine when was 4 months old. The main reasons for that are as follows, male cats often mark their teritories by urinating on walls and furniture (if it happens, neutering will not be of help anymore, so it had to be done in advance), then male cats want to escape to find their mates. My cat is now almost 2 years old, and I don't see any negative effects of neutering

You're welcome Jakub, I am sure you will have additional questions once you got the cat in, we'll all be happy to help you

Posted by: AlexLion May 5 2009, 01:06 PM

What that people done to him??!!


Cats are so funny

Posted by: fkalich May 5 2009, 01:54 PM

You are correct that if you really want to minimize the chance of spraying with males, you do it early.

However, myself I believe in letting them mature first, so they develop the Tomcat personality. Then I have them whacked off. Really, I don't have a problem with my 3 Tomcats. I don't think that is a problem for the most part, after they are neutered they should settle down. However I would say this, if you are not going to let your cats out at all, then do as Dejan says, neuter the males at 4 months. Mine don't spray in the house, but they do want to go out and spray. I just like the Tomcat personality, and like I said, I have not really had a problem.

Females, you have got to be nuts not to spay them. I would wait till their first heat though. But if you don't spay them, they will get all stressed, or pregnant if you let them out. Also will have a greater chance of getting cancer. I don't think female cats even like sex. I think nature just wired them to fee real uncomfortable, and the only way they feel comfortable was to stick their rear ends up in the air. The males like though. But Sweetie would always whack Buddy when he got to her, when he was done. As I mentioned before I think, I got him neutered when she first went into heat, and then the next day he started mounting her, and I figured it could do no harm, but as it turned out, cats can still impregnate the females for a few days after being neutered.

Posted by: Alexiaden93 May 14 2009, 11:15 PM

HAHAHAHAHA ! The part around 1:57 when the cat gets stuck hanging by the ceiling-fan is just hilarious !

Posted by: AlexLion May 15 2009, 06:39 AM

I know, I even thought it`s edited, don`t know