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Trond Vold
Dec 19 2008, 06:46 PM
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I dont think it matters much what the software is. To me the most important thing is what sound you can get out of them by using external filters, like compressors and eq's.

And if you ask me, then i would say that all the major drum vsti's sound boring and flat right out of the box. What i mean by this is that the whole drum-programming session becomes alot easier with good sound, and maybe the patterns you allready have will sound 100 times better, if that makes sense.

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Nemanja Filipovi...
Dec 19 2008, 07:26 PM
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Well,you need to learn the basic patterns.You will do that by listening a lot of music.First you need to set the tempo up and start with the basic:Kick,Snare,Hi hat.
But if you are out of idea,some of the VST drums has there own patterns,that you can use or rearrange.I use Addictive drums.

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Fingerspasm
Dec 19 2008, 07:51 PM
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I agree with needing a good sound. My Double Bass Mania Samples by Beta Monkey have some killer double bass sounds and samples and plenty of patterns. And I have a good understanding of many of the stock patterns that are out there. I think where I run into problems is that I normally create my riffs etc just playing to a basic 4/4 metronome with no accent. So when I start throwing in the drum samples they seem to either go a little short or long before they repeat compared to my riff. So I either need to try to delete a beat or two or add a beat or two. And this is where I have been running into trouble. But I am starting to feel more confident about getting it done now after reading some of the comments so far.
Sometimes when I hear a great lesson or a great song that is posted on this site I am just as impressed with the drums and other instruments in the arrangement as I am with the guitar. There is so much more to learn when one starts to try and record a decent song. Its a confusing world of Audio input devices, DAW's, Mastering, EQ etc etc. Once I started trying to create songs I realized that knowing a bunch of riffs and solos is very different than putting down and recording good guitar tracks and creating great drum tracks keyboards etc etc. I recently downloaded Trons songs that he has posted on the site and I am very impressed with the arrangements and how great he makes his guitar sound by complimenting it with the other instruments. I have not looked yet to see if any of the other instructors have any songs that are available for download but I plan on checking that out soon.

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Ivan Milenkovic
Dec 19 2008, 07:54 PM
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I agree with Trond as well. I use Superiour Drummer 2.0 with expansions for all my work and even that sounds a bit flat straight from the box. A well compressed and EQ-ed drum is essential in the end.

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Outlaw2112
Dec 21 2008, 06:47 AM
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Can I use any of these drum programs with audacity?

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UncleSkillet
Dec 21 2008, 07:21 AM
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This is really some great advice smile.gif

I will try and work on this because I would love to be able to create a awesome drum track.

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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Dec 19 2008, 12:38 PM) *
I have EZDrums and Addictive Drums. They are both very good and full of samples.
I would usually write a riff chord progression and then search in the database of groves to find the most appropriate one for my riff. If none fit, I would edit the one thats closest to my riff by adding hits on right spots etc
Also you can search the internet for more free drum midis , but in my opinion thats a never ending story ! You can have thousands of drum midis and still not know how to use them.
So my best advice is to learn about drums. What happens with bass (kick) drum, hi hat , snare , tom toms - on which beat are these commonly used and which styles. The best practice is to transcribe drum beats of various kinds of music , and I do mean transcribe just like you transcribe guitar or any other instrument solos. You will learn a lot about drums by doing that.
Hope that helps smile.gif

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