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Posted by: fatb0t Mar 6 2009, 08:26 PM

The other day I was doing some sweeps just noodling around... My friend was in Reaper processing my signal. He's a real gear head, so he was messing around with a bunch of VSTs I have installed on my machine. Finally he got to some sort of modulation VST I didn't even know I had. He added a 5th and an octave to all the notes I was playing. The sweeps sounded OUT OF THIS UNIVERSE AWESOME. I was astonished by how cool they sounded, I could practice them for days doing it that way.... ANYWAYS, the one downfall to this VST was that it had a bit of latency for processing the guitar signal.

LONG STORY SHORT, I would REALLY like to buy a harmonizer pedal of some sort for my pedalboard instead of this piece of software. Now I know they make vocal harmonizers and stuff, but I want one for the guitar. I looked at the Digitech Whammy and Ex-7 both don't appear to be what I'm looking for.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Posted by: ZakkWylde Mar 6 2009, 08:32 PM

I have a digitech whammy - first of all: you can only harmonize in an octave or in 5ths; not both at the same time...

The whammy is great for pitch shifting but it sounds a bit weird to me when harmonizing, like if the harmony isn't 100% in tune. Maybe it suits you just right, so go ahead and try it out in a store!

Posted by: 29a Mar 6 2009, 09:02 PM

The BOSS GT-10 can do it wink.gif

- Jonas

Posted by: fatb0t Mar 6 2009, 09:17 PM

I wish they'd make like a small pedal and could dial in harmonies easily. It must take a lot of processing power to harmonize a signal though..

Posted by: Ramiro Delforte Mar 6 2009, 09:33 PM

I leave you some links where you have prices and different models...and some discussions smile.gif

http://eu.musicianuniversity.com/Guitars/DigiTech-HARMONY_MAN-Guitar_Effects_Pedal.html

http://www.smnnews.com/board/showthread.php?t=114826

http://www.guitarpedalstore.com/default.asp/type_10-Guitar-Octave-Pedals

Posted by: fatb0t Mar 6 2009, 09:35 PM

QUOTE (Ramiro Delforte @ Mar 6 2009, 03:33 PM) *
I leave you some links where you have prices and different models...and some discussions smile.gif

http://eu.musicianuniversity.com/Guitars/DigiTech-HARMONY_MAN-Guitar_Effects_Pedal.html

http://www.smnnews.com/board/showthread.php?t=114826

http://www.guitarpedalstore.com/default.asp/type_10-Guitar-Octave-Pedals


Thanks Ramiro, when I did a google search that's all I found too. None of those are harmony specific besides the very expensive Digitech one...

Thanks for your help guys

Posted by: Ramiro Delforte Mar 6 2009, 09:59 PM

Have you think of a rack?

http://shop.ebay.com/sis/_W0QQ_kwZEventideQ20HarmonizerQ20EffectsQ20ProcessorQ20RackQ20GearQ20ProQ20Audio

http://cgi.ebay.com/Digitech-DHP-55-Harmonizer-Rack-Unit-Eventide-DHP55_W0QQitemZ130291440379QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090305?IMSfp=TL090305121008r23023

Here is a forum talking about that topic
http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f30/rack-harmonizer-44419.html

There aren't so expensive (some of them) I think....could be a good option

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Mar 6 2009, 11:26 PM

One of the best harmonizer stomps are those from Electro Harmonics:

Check out these:








Posted by: Jerry Arcidiacono Mar 6 2009, 11:35 PM

Have you tried this one?

http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=147&ParentId=94


Posted by: inertia Mar 7 2009, 01:00 AM

the digitech harmony man (it's quite new) is supposed to be the best one out there by far both for sound and options

Posted by: fatb0t Mar 7 2009, 02:20 AM

Cool thanks guys

Posted by: Muris Varajic Mar 7 2009, 03:39 AM

QUOTE (fatb0t @ Mar 6 2009, 08:26 PM) *
The other day I was doing some sweeps just noodling around... My friend was in Reaper processing my signal. He's a real gear head, so he was messing around with a bunch of VSTs I have installed on my machine. Finally he got to some sort of modulation VST I didn't even know I had. He added a 5th and an octave to all the notes I was playing. The sweeps sounded OUT OF THIS UNIVERSE AWESOME. I was astonished by how cool they sounded, I could practice them for days doing it that way.... ANYWAYS, the one downfall to this VST was that it had a bit of latency for processing the guitar signal.


Just to quick correction and totally off topic,
that was probably some plug-in and not VST,
plug-ins are effects and such while VSTs produce totally "new" sound,
they take midi signal and react on it with sample.
Regarding latency, that was probably your audio card and CPU
and not plug-in (VST) , they process as fast as machine allows it. smile.gif

Posted by: fatb0t Mar 8 2009, 01:10 AM

oh cool, thanks Muris for clearing that up. I didn't know the difference between a VST and a plugin - now I do!

Posted by: Muris Varajic Mar 8 2009, 02:52 AM

QUOTE (fatb0t @ Mar 8 2009, 01:10 AM) *
oh cool, thanks Muris for clearing that up. I didn't know the difference between a VST and a plugin - now I do!


No problem smile.gif

Posted by: 29a Mar 8 2009, 05:38 PM

Muris might actually be wrong unsure.gif . As far as I know VST defines an interface for both instruments and effects.

QUOTE (VST SDK)
From the host application’s point of view, a VST Plug-In is a black box with an arbitrary number of inputs, outputs (Midi or Audio), and associated parameters. The Host needs no knowledge of the Plug-In process to be able to use it.


Jonas

Posted by: Muris Varajic Mar 8 2009, 05:44 PM

QUOTE (29a @ Mar 8 2009, 05:38 PM) *
Muris might actually be wrong unsure.gif . As far as I know VST defines an interface for both instruments and effects.


Jonas


Agree, I read first post wrong,
VST does define both instruments and effects,
I was thinking of VST instruments
cause most of the people use only VST for instrument
and never or rarely for plug-ins. smile.gif

Posted by: fatb0t Mar 8 2009, 07:12 PM

Now I'm getting confused haha

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