Music For The Sake Of Music And Aimed At Musicians, Or Common Folk? |
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Jun 14 2013, 02:24 AM
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I play and record a lot of stuff that probably only musos are into. But I also do a ton of pop music that occasionally some of my jazz friends will, lets say, 'express surprise that I would do that' - they don't dare question my judgement ... at least to my face.
I like a lot of different music. I feel I need to satisfy myself first - whatever the genre or level of difficulty or ease. I actually hate referring to music as even having a 'level of difficulty or ease' for a listener. Any listener. A lot of 'musicians' dismiss seemingly simple music and a lot of non-players assume that if it's fast or maybe a little weird or it's called jazz or prog that it's 'difficult' and consequently too heady. That's BS on both sides. The fact that both Yes and King Crimson had Billboard top 10 hits dispels the myth that complicated can't be popular. And of course conversely the musos claimed that with those hits, those bands had then 'sold out' (again, complete BS). You can't win. Since this is my job i'm certainly aware of who likes what and maybe why or why not. I rarely adjust what I do based on who likes what (sometimes, but rarely). By this point in my life and career I've found that personal authenticity is what folks like about me. Sometimes I 'authentically' and honestly will adjust something that I play or write or adjust an approach based on another's opinion ... if I feel that that opinion is valid. *Caveat. My personal perspective may be skewed. My father is a semi retired musician so plenty of encouragement and 'influence' from home. My wife likes music in general and my little kid sometimes sings songs all day long. We all do some gardening. Most of my friends are musicians and the ones that aren't will come and hear me play when I'm gigging in their neighborhood or they're when not too busy or it's not too late. Most of us have kids now so it's not as easy as it used to be to just hang out at the club. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Jun 14 2013, 03:07 AM
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In my case I don't feel 100% connected to what you said in this thread. Most of my interaction with people is thanks to music. My friends come to my band's concerts, they ask me for listening to new songs, the same happens with most of my family and even with my girlfriend who really pays attention to what I do, and sometimes, she gives me ideas for new lessons or asks me for composing music to then create a video for it. Sometimes I compose music for specific reasons, for jobs, but most of the music that I compose is done because I want to do it, because I enjoy doing it and listening to it.
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Jun 14 2013, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE (deeaa @ Jun 14 2013, 02:20 AM)  Yeah, well, I don't really know why many people around me seem to hate what I do. I may for instance do a cover of some band my wife loves and she won't even want to hear it. She does like the kind of music I make, just not my music. Although how would she know, as she never checks it out. My kids like music too a lot, but aren't yet actively interested on mine. yeah, I know that there is people who doesn't care about music. That people who you ask, what's your favourite band? and they don't have answers. As I don't have too much in common with this type of band, we don't become friends easily. 
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Jun 14 2013, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jun 14 2013, 10:06 AM) yeah, I know that there is people who doesn't care about music. That people who you ask, what's your favourite band? and they don't have answers. As I don't have too much in common with this type of band, we don't become friends easily. I have to say this tends to be true for me. If I can't do, say an hour car ride with you due to music. More than likely I will place space between them. I've noticed I connect more to people who either play or have played an instrument, because you both relate to the time people put into the music more than just what it sounds like. -------------------- Guitars:
Ibanez S770PB (Natural Flat) , Ibanez XPT700 (Chameleon) , Sterling J Richardson Signature , Squire IV Jazz Bass (Sunburst) Gear: Neural DSP Plugins My YouTube Page. |
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Jun 14 2013, 04:13 PM
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I'm sure it's generational for me (I'm 51) as I don't know anybody that isn't 'into' music. I'm talking about musicians, hobbyists and laymen alike. It may have been regional too (Los Angeles) - ?
When I was in school (70s and early 80s) everybody - I mean e v e r y b o d y - was passionately into their bands and going to concerts. There were probably 5 competing rock bands in my high school. We'd compete to see who would play the coolest/biggest parties. Music was an essential part of your lifestyle. I've noticed that most of those friends and acquaintances (that I still keep in contact with) continue to be really into music. Maybe not the same music as when they were in high school but music nonetheless. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jun 14 2013, 04:25 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Aug 1 2013, 09:05 AM
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Very cool topic!
For me music brought a lot of wonderful things in my life and I really enjoy creating and playing it for others. When composing, I do make it for myself but I must admit that I sometimes think : "Wow - this section is going to be really cool on gigs for audience to sing it..." (example). People around me do support what I do and I can share my music with them. On the other hand - I mainly get a thrill for seeing complete strangers like my music as friends, family etc usually "like everything"  I think it can be really demotivating if people around me wouldn't show support. Thankfully - I did do my best to surround myself with musicians (GMC and offline) as I think that kind of environment is where I belong and it endlessly inspires me. In the end - I do get a thrill of recording music and putting it online or publishing it digitally. With publishing, I really like the fact that at that moment music becomes eternal and will stay in existence (on iTunes or in stores/people hands if its on CD) forever. If people like my music - that is just a great bonus in the full story!
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Aug 2 2013, 03:12 PM
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I rather mean some great work including awesome (awesome beacuse simply to listen) arrangements like Sting or Spyro Gyra
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I don't know why, because you are entirely right, but somehow, my subconscious started associating pop music with something bad - see? 
Sting performed here on Wednesday - great show!
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Aug 4 2013, 09:05 AM
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Sort of 'off topic' but POP means popular.
Mozart is pop. U2 is pop. 'Pop', for me, is not a bad word. Zep, Sabbath, Stones - they were all popular when I was growing up. They were played on AM radio ... hence, pop. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Aug 5 2013, 12:25 AM
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Todd > Yoda
great post, todd
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