"easy" Music Is Hard For Me
shellshock1911
Dec 31 2007, 06:25 AM
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I can play some Paganini caprices on my classical guitar because they are all single notes but all the "easy" pieces on here I just can't grasp. It is something about the counterpoint, and I just can't do it correctly together and change the positions fast enough, any tips?

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Dec 31 2007, 06:40 AM
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QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Dec 31 2007, 06:25 AM) *
I can play some Paganini caprices on my classical guitar because they are all single notes but all the "easy" pieces on here I just can't grasp. It is something about the counterpoint, and I just can't do it correctly together and change the positions fast enough, any tips?

I have the same problem. As long as it's single notes I can learn it. It's just down to practise.

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Jan 1 2008, 03:47 PM
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LOL... Now, I've noticed, that this is Koseis forum and my answer was for electric guitar problems:-D

I take back my response:-P

Sry for hijacking..

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Jan 1 2008, 03:52 PM
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Lots of practice, i am in the same boat some of the lessons they say are easy aren't easy for me, but at the end of the day i barely know the basics, and these will take weeks to learn and many many years to master, i feel this is the biggest lesson to learn... Learning anything takes time and patience, its nice to have a goal and ambition to play well but it won't happen instantly.

Beginner Video Lessons

I would seriously start there, even just as a refresher course if you know the stuff already. I have been playing guitar for about a week and while i still suck i notice improvements everytime i go back and play, those lessons will also teach you playing over multiple strings and position changing, now i don't know how experienced you are but i feel the lessons will help in some way.

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Kosei Kubota
Jan 1 2008, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Dec 31 2007, 12:25 AM) *
I can play some Paganini caprices on my classical guitar because they are all single notes but all the "easy" pieces on here I just can't grasp. It is something about the counterpoint, and I just can't do it correctly together and change the positions fast enough, any tips?


Yes, I think it is related to counterpoint, playing two or more lines at the same time.
Violinists takes years of serious practice playing this (they call it "double stop" or "triple stop"), but guitarists tend to skip, because they already know how to play chords.
What is the difference between playing counterpoint music and playing succession of chords?
When you play chords, you usually change all the notes, but counterpoint music often requires to keep one note here and there while another melody is moving.

So you need to develop independence of fingers.

Here is an exercise:

1. play this leaving all the fingers on each fret:
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-1-2-3-4-
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So, you'll see all your fingers on fingerboard now.

2. Leaving middle finger, ring finger and pinky there play this with your index finger.
(Do not use "bar")
-1---------
---1-------
-----------
------1----
--------1--
----------1-
Not so hard, right?

3. Try the same thing with your middle finger. A little more challenge.
4. How about ring finger. Getting harder, right?
5. Then, pinky. A good workout.

While doing this exercise, remember two things:
1. Your thumb should be relaxed. You should be able to move your thumb freely in the air.
2. If you feel any pain, stop it. Overdoing would result in injury.

I hope this will help you.

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Jan 1 2008, 10:09 PM
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Pretty cool exercise, I'm gonna have to work on it a lot now. Finger independence also allows smaller movements, so faster and cleaner playing on the electric as well.

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Kosei Kubota
Jan 3 2008, 06:11 AM
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QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Jan 1 2008, 04:09 PM) *
Pretty cool exercise, I'm gonna have to work on it a lot now. Finger independence also allows smaller movements, so faster and cleaner playing on the electric as well.


Since you liked my Carcassi Arpeggio lesson, maybe I will do a simple left hand workout lesson in the future. Let me think about it for a while!

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