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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 20 2011, 11:33 AM

Ahoy, ahoy GMC! biggrin.gif

while I am mixing the Modern Metal Collab, I thought about starting a new one, thanks to the awesome suggestions I received during a previous video chat session!

This one will be rhythm oriented and it's going to test your composition and riffing skills! So, we shall use one of the drum backing tracks (attached in this thread) that I provided a few months ago (hope you enjoyed those and if you'd like more, we could start to populate that thread again) and all you have to do is come up with riffs as tight and interesting as possible to match the drum groove and fills as presented in the backing track! Use as much as you wish out of it, as it's not compulsory to cover it in whole smile.gif

I would also be curious to hear other approaches over this track, meaning that, you shouldn't restrain yourself to metal only - you can play funk riffs over the track as well for instance! In the end we'll have an awesome MEGA GROOVE, interesting and colorful, with attitude, finesse and everything in between!

Let's use the A minor scale and the A minor pentatonic scale smile.gif (I shall record with my baritone on this one so that we may have a growling low end biggrin.gif)

The deadline shall be the 20th of September and as usual, I am waiting for your takes (wav. files and video files through whatever transfer systems you might like to use).

I attached 2 tracks - the one at 170 BPM is the one we shall use for recording the takes and the one at 130 BPM is the one which you may lke to use for practicing your riffs slowly.

let's go GMC!!

Cosmin

 Metal_Rhythm_Collab_170_bpm.mp3 ( 5.83MB ) : 358
 Metal_Rhythm_Collab_130_bpm.mp3 ( 7.48MB ) : 240
 

Posted by: K1R Aug 20 2011, 01:00 PM

Great! I'm in! Perhaps it would be better if we choose one scale, so our takes would fit each other.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 20 2011, 01:45 PM

haha biggrin.gif good point! i knew i forgot something tongue.gif my bad! check the post in 5 minutes wink.gif

Posted by: Finny Aug 20 2011, 01:47 PM

This is gonna kick ASS!!! smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 20 2011, 01:49 PM

As I added this info in the post above, I'll add it here too biggrin.gif let's use A minor (aeolian) and A minor pentatonic wink.gif

Mr FINN! The question is... ARE YOU IN? biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Finny @ Aug 20 2011, 12:47 PM) *
This is gonna kick ASS!!! smile.gif


Posted by: Finny Aug 20 2011, 02:15 PM

Damn right I am!

Posted by: WeePee Aug 21 2011, 06:34 AM

Riffing coming up from here biggrin.gif

Oh yeah I have all kinds of things going on now so I'll post my files near the deadline.


Do we need to post a videofile or is a mp3 file enough ?


-Ville-

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 21 2011, 07:10 AM

Hey Ville! Video would be cool tongue.gif thanks for joining mate!

QUOTE (WeePee @ Aug 21 2011, 05:34 AM) *
Riffing coming up from here biggrin.gif

Oh yeah I have all kinds of things going on now so I'll post my files near the deadline.


Do we need to post a videofile or is a mp3 file enough ?


-Ville-


Posted by: xxxridzr Aug 23 2011, 09:47 PM

New to the collab how should i sent my recording?

Posted by: xxxridzr Aug 23 2011, 10:26 PM

here the audio file smile.gif quick improvise but offer sugestion? new at this biggrin.gif

 metal.mov ( 35.72MB ) : 248
 metal.wav ( 35.72MB ) : 257
 

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 24 2011, 07:06 AM

QUOTE (xxxridzr @ Aug 23 2011, 09:26 PM) *
here the audio file smile.gif quick improvise but offer sugestion? new at this biggrin.gif


We usually use rapidshare.com to transfer files, in order not to overwhelm the server wink.gif thanks for joining mate!

I have listened to your take! There are some awesome lines in there, but this collab is all about rhythm wink.gif please analyze the drum track thoroughly and come up with some awesome riffage biggrin.gif I am sure you'll invent some cool stuff. Read the explanations of the collab in order not to miss anything and please send an avi. or mpeg4. file for the video footage.

Posted by: Gitarrero Aug 24 2011, 06:55 PM

I'm in!
And this time, I'll be able to record something...been really busy with moving lately, but all will be fine this weekend smile.gif

Christian

Posted by: thefireball Aug 24 2011, 09:05 PM

You know I'm definitely in, Cosmin. cool.gif I've been composing a lot lately, hence my usual presence in the forums. I will come up with some riffs for you. I will probably just use the whole track because I just wanna. biggrin.gif Is it alright if I record it like I would for a studio version (so I can get it as perfect and tight as possible), then mime to it in a video? smile.gif This would really help.

Brandon

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 24 2011, 10:41 PM

QUOTE (thefireball @ Aug 24 2011, 08:05 PM) *
You know I'm definitely in, Cosmin. cool.gif I've been composing a lot lately, hence my usual presence in the forums. I will come up with some riffs for you. I will probably just use the whole track because I just wanna. biggrin.gif Is it alright if I record it like I would for a studio version (so I can get it as perfect and tight as possible), then mime to it in a video? smile.gif This would really help.

Brandon


By all means my friend! Do what you must to get things awesome wink.gif

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Aug 24 2011, 05:55 PM) *
I'm in!
And this time, I'll be able to record something...been really busy with moving lately, but all will be fine this weekend smile.gif

Christian


Can't wait for the take mate biggrin.gif thanks for takin' the time to join!

Posted by: thefireball Aug 25 2011, 12:26 AM

Shall I add my own bass?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Aug 25 2011, 07:32 AM

QUOTE (thefireball @ Aug 24 2011, 11:26 PM) *
Shall I add my own bass?


Please do smile.gif i deliberately left the drums only, so if you guys want to add bass, you are free to do it! It is part of your creation wink.gif and THAT's EXACTLY what I'm trying to encourage! tongue.gif

Posted by: thefireball Aug 25 2011, 09:24 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Aug 25 2011, 01:32 AM) *
Please do smile.gif i deliberately left the drums only, so if you guys want to add bass, you are free to do it! It is part of your creation wink.gif and THAT's EXACTLY what I'm trying to encourage! tongue.gif


Yay!! Get ready for some madness!!!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 3 2011, 10:07 AM

Hey guys! How are you faring so far? biggrin.gif can't wait to hear your takes!


Posted by: thefireball Sep 4 2011, 10:48 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 3 2011, 04:07 AM) *
Hey guys! How are you faring so far? biggrin.gif can't wait to hear your takes!


Well I gotta wait until after Labor Day Monday to get some new strings for my Jackson. (14-68) The 68 snapped. I guess it was because I had tuned it up to Drop C for a short time and it caught up with me. sad.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 5 2011, 06:54 AM

QUOTE (thefireball @ Sep 4 2011, 09:48 PM) *
Well I gotta wait until after Labor Day Monday to get some new strings for my Jackson. (14-68) The 68 snapped. I guess it was because I had tuned it up to Drop C for a short time and it caught up with me. sad.gif


I haven't had my coffee yet and I was looking pretty dazzled at the fact that you managed to break a 68 biggrin.gif

Posted by: WeePee Sep 5 2011, 11:57 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 3 2011, 12:07 PM) *
Hey guys! How are you faring so far? biggrin.gif can't wait to hear your takes!

Lets say about 67 % done wink.gif. I have to rec few riffs and bassline (which is already in my head ready)
So next week it's done.

Posted by: thefireball Sep 5 2011, 02:15 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 5 2011, 12:54 AM) *
I haven't had my coffee yet and I was looking pretty dazzled at the fact that you managed to break a 68 biggrin.gif


I was just as surprised as you. I couldn't believe it. It snapped at the nut and and hung on by the threads. I had S.I.T. strings installed - actually part of an 8 string set. The guitar shop ordered them for me. I had asked for GHS Baritone 70s, but I see now why they installed 68s. You can barely pull the thing outta the tuning peg. ohmy.gif I hope I can get a baritone guitar & 7 String one of these days. haha

I'm thinking it was cheapy strings...maybe. Do you know a 14-68 set I can buy that is a good string set? I'll just get a regular set of 14s instead of the set from that 8 string package. Is D'Addario a good brand? I couldn't find GHS strings the gauge I want.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 5 2011, 02:39 PM

QUOTE (thefireball @ Sep 5 2011, 01:15 PM) *
I was just as surprised as you. I couldn't believe it. It snapped at the nut and and hung on by the threads. I had S.I.T. strings installed - actually part of an 8 string set. The guitar shop ordered them for me. I had asked for GHS Baritone 70s, but I see now why they installed 68s. You can barely pull the thing outta the tuning peg. ohmy.gif I hope I can get a baritone guitar & 7 String one of these days. haha

I'm thinking it was cheapy strings...maybe. Do you know a 14-68 set I can buy that is a good string set? I'll just get a regular set of 14s instead of the set from that 8 string package. Is D'Addario a good brand? I couldn't find GHS strings the gauge I want.


Mate, I have 14 - 68 Elixirs on my baritone and I haven't changed them since march smile.gif they still sound fresh enough - have a go with those and let me know wink.gif

Posted by: thefireball Sep 7 2011, 03:47 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 5 2011, 08:39 AM) *
Mate, I have 14 - 68 Elixirs on my baritone and I haven't changed them since march smile.gif they still sound fresh enough - have a go with those and let me know wink.gif


Wow! I certainly will. I got some S.I.T. ones again today because I was desperate. They had them in stock and I just couldn't wait any longer. I had to rock low!!

Posted by: WeePee Sep 12 2011, 02:29 PM

Hi Cos !

Here's my entry.

I slipped from A minor in the end and added some notes from F# scale. Hope it's ok ?
And do you need guitar and bass tracks separated like in other collabs ?


-Ville-

 Metal_Rhythm_Collaboration_2011.mp3 ( 4.85MB ) : 138
 

Posted by: thefireball Sep 14 2011, 09:47 PM

Wait, so I am I understanding correctly that we can play in Drop A? So that means this is to be in the key of A?

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 14 2011, 11:10 PM

QUOTE (thefireball @ Sep 14 2011, 08:47 PM) *
Wait, so I am I understanding correctly that we can play in Drop A? So that means this is to be in the key of A?


It has to be in the key of A minor, so yes you can play in drop A biggrin.gif at least that's what I ll do tongue.gif

Posted by: thefireball Sep 14 2011, 11:44 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 14 2011, 05:10 PM) *
It has to be in the key of A minor, so yes you can play in drop A biggrin.gif at least that's what I ll do tongue.gif


K. I'm really scarce for ideas here. I have some, but they just don't pop to me.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 15 2011, 08:07 AM

QUOTE (WeePee @ Sep 12 2011, 01:29 PM) *
Hi Cos !

Here's my entry.

I slipped from A minor in the end and added some notes from F# scale. Hope it's ok ?
And do you need guitar and bass tracks separated like in other collabs ?


-Ville-


Yeahahahaha biggrin.gif just managed to give this a listen! AWESOME DUDE! biggrin.gif very very good! I like the variations and the melodies you came up with! Can't wait to mix this up!

Posted by: JadGh Sep 16 2011, 05:23 PM

Hey Cozzy,

Giving the fact that i only knew about the collab yesterday and had only today to compose, here's my take! as i told you, i'll be doing the oriental stuff!

not my best tone for sure but i have to go for family time sad.gif

let me know what you think man and hopefully next time i'll have more time to be more creative biggrin.gif

Cheers

Jad

 Cosmin_Collab.mp3 ( 3.24MB ) : 131
 

Posted by: thefireball Sep 16 2011, 09:20 PM

COSMIN!!! smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif Good news! I'm finally on a roll! After watching a Meshuggah lesson on YouTube, it got me thinking. What if I do something that's of course in 4/4 time, but has an odd feel. So I did it!! It clicked! I never have done odd time in a song before. smile.gif But now I am starting to grasp it. I am very happy with what I have so far. smile.gif smile.gif Now all the lines are coming to me. cool.gif

Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 17 2011, 05:15 PM

Jad, awesome take!
I just read that you are open to other styles as well Cosmin...I've got a cool idea that I will record tomorrow, including video. This is gonna be fun!
Christian

Posted by: thefireball Sep 17 2011, 09:33 PM

Hey Cosmin! I have uploaded my audio take to http://soundcloud.com/fireball100/cosmin-gmc-collab-170bpm-drop-a. I will get to work on my video very soon. smile.gif I hope you will enjoy. cool.gif

Just click the little down arrow to download it. wink.gif

Posted by: thefireball Sep 18 2011, 02:26 AM

Cosmin,

I just occurred to me that you may need the track without the drums. So you can download that from https://rapidshare.com/files/4268121160/Cosmin_Metal_Collab_170bpm_-_Guitars___Bass_only.mp3.

I think I could have backed off the distortion a bit, but that's okay I guess. I'm gonna write some of my own drum patterns and re-record with lower distortion to make this my own song some day. biggrin.gif Thanks for this collab, you helped me write a song. smile.gif

Brandon

Posted by: WeePee Sep 18 2011, 06:35 AM

Hey Brandon very nice entry. I like the part from 0:27.

Posted by: thefireball Sep 18 2011, 03:02 PM

QUOTE (WeePee @ Sep 18 2011, 12:35 AM) *
Hey Brandon very nice entry. I like the part from 0:27.


Thanks smile.gif You had a cool entry too. smile.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 19 2011, 11:34 AM

QUOTE (JadGh @ Sep 16 2011, 04:23 PM) *
Hey Cozzy,

Giving the fact that i only knew about the collab yesterday and had only today to compose, here's my take! as i told you, i'll be doing the oriental stuff!

not my best tone for sure but i have to go for family time sad.gif

let me know what you think man and hopefully next time i'll have more time to be more creative biggrin.gif

Cheers

Jad


Hey Jad! Very nice mate biggrin.gif I like what you've done with it, I see you harmonized some parts, you diversified the riffs, all in all, it has all the spices necessary biggrin.gif good work!

QUOTE (thefireball @ Sep 18 2011, 01:26 AM) *
Cosmin,

I just occurred to me that you may need the track without the drums. So you can download that from https://rapidshare.com/files/4268121160/Cosmin_Metal_Collab_170bpm_-_Guitars___Bass_only.mp3.

I think I could have backed off the distortion a bit, but that's okay I guess. I'm gonna write some of my own drum patterns and re-record with lower distortion to make this my own song some day. biggrin.gif Thanks for this collab, you helped me write a song. smile.gif

Brandon


Wahaa biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif low down dirty riffing! I love it mate! This collab will rock!

Hey everyone! Tomorrow is the deadline for this one! tongue.gif I will be starting to gather all the materials and I'll try to act swift with this one so we'll have it fast smile.gif

Let's see what you got!


Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 19 2011, 06:28 PM

Hi Cosmin, I just came home from work and I'm somehow to tired to record a great take with a cool video today. Is it okay to record my take tomorrow evening? It should be up just before Ben's chat tomorrow!

Christian

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 19 2011, 06:29 PM

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Sep 19 2011, 05:28 PM) *
Hi Cosmin, I just came home from work and I'm somehow to tired to record a great take with a cool video today. Is it okay to record my take tomorrow evening? It should be up just before Ben's chat tomorrow!

Christian


Sure mate! Go ahead and have a blast tongue.gif

Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 20 2011, 06:56 PM

So...straight after work, I recorded a take...now you guys know how I look like at work.
So, let's call this "business punk" ! laugh.gif
or better

SUIT UP!


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 20 2011, 11:21 PM

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Sep 20 2011, 05:56 PM) *
So...straight after work, I recorded a take...now you guys know how I look like at work.
So, let's call this "business punk" ! laugh.gif
or better

SUIT UP!



Alrighty mate! Thank ye biggrin.gif The suit and take are super awesome! Gitarrero the GODfather biggrin.gif

Guys! The last chance to submit audio and video biggrin.gif I just got home from the trip to the west and I am still in need of rest, but tomorrow mornin I'll start collectin' the materials for the collab! wink.gif

Posted by: WeePee Sep 21 2011, 03:24 PM

What ?! Only 4 entries and this collab is gonna end soon ?


Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 21 2011, 03:40 PM

Yup.. sad.gif unfortunately, well, it's just the 5 of us biggrin.gif so we'll make it good anyway wink.gif

Posted by: JadGh Sep 21 2011, 08:46 PM

Its not the quantity, its the Quality wink.gif

Posted by: thefireball Sep 21 2011, 08:52 PM

We'll see how it turns out then. happy.gif

I gotta shoot the video!! ohmy.gif

Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 21 2011, 09:25 PM

You know what to do Brandon, SUIT UP! laugh.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 21 2011, 10:10 PM

QUOTE (JadGh @ Sep 21 2011, 07:46 PM) *
Its not the quantity, its the Quality wink.gif


Jad, I am missing your video as well smile.gif can you please send it ?

Posted by: JadGh Sep 21 2011, 11:04 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 21 2011, 09:10 PM) *
Jad, I am missing your video as well smile.gif can you please send it ?


hey Coz, I didn't actually shoot a video, i thought audio was enough :S Please tell me audio would do as there's no way i can shoot this am barely finding time these days to hit a string! last time i jammed was for this collab sad.gif

Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Sep 21 2011, 11:38 PM

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Sep 20 2011, 07:56 PM) *
So...straight after work, I recorded a take...now you guys know how I look like at work.
So, let's call this "business punk" ! laugh.gif
or better

SUIT UP!



WOW man! smile.gif

This is EPIC!
Really shows how style is important. You remind me of Green Day guys in this video smile.gif

Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 22 2011, 06:35 AM

Haha, thanks a lot Bogdan! Yeah, I also suited up in the past for my SI lesson in the style of Green Day tongue.gif
Who knows, maybe I'll wear a suit for my next rec takes as well...

Posted by: WeePee Sep 22 2011, 09:49 AM

QUOTE (JadGh @ Sep 22 2011, 01:04 AM) *
hey Coz, I didn't actually shoot a video, i thought audio was enough :S Please tell me audio would do as there's no way i can shoot this am barely finding time these days to hit a string! last time i jammed was for this collab sad.gif

Yeah me too, no extra time for shoot a vid. I'm going to Spain next week so I have lots of stuff to do.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 22 2011, 09:52 AM

QUOTE (WeePee @ Sep 22 2011, 08:49 AM) *
Yeah me too, no extra time for shoot a vid. I'm going to Spain next week so I have lots of stuff to do.


Alright guys! I'll keep this one audio then and in the mean time I'll launch a new video one smile.gif what say you?

Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 22 2011, 03:32 PM

Oh no, my video!! laugh.gif

Sure thing man, start the next video collab...I've got more suits wink.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 22 2011, 05:38 PM

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Sep 22 2011, 02:32 PM) *
Oh no, my video!! laugh.gif

Sure thing man, start the next video collab...I've got more suits wink.gif


Sorry mate sad.gif I'll make the next one super SUITable for a suit biggrin.gif

Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 22 2011, 05:54 PM

suitable huhm...sounds like a great idea...sign me in!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 22 2011, 05:56 PM

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Sep 22 2011, 04:54 PM) *
suitable huhm...sounds like a great idea...sign me in!


Sure! You are always welcome! biggrin.gif

This one shall be smooth biggrin.gif too many ruckus in the last two!

Posted by: thefireball Sep 23 2011, 01:08 AM

I guess fate had it well. I'm busy too. biggrin.gif I was thinking...man! I gotta get this video!

Looking forward to the next collab with actual video then.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 23 2011, 07:29 AM

QUOTE (thefireball @ Sep 23 2011, 12:08 AM) *
I guess fate had it well. I'm busy too. biggrin.gif I was thinking...man! I gotta get this video!

Looking forward to the next collab with actual video then.


Will create a backing track biggrin.gif this one will be good enough to be dedicated to the ladies tongue.gif

Posted by: thefireball Oct 18 2011, 06:16 PM

How's this going? We could make it video if you want. Or we can just stick with audio.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Oct 18 2011, 06:58 PM

QUOTE (thefireball @ Oct 18 2011, 05:16 PM) *
How's this going? We could make it video if you want. Or we can just stick with audio.


hey Brandon! smile.gif I'll finish it this week, this one stays audio, so focus on the Smooth Collab biggrin.gif I am very eager to see what you guys will do to that one - hehe, I have high expectations from you, because I've seen how expressive you can be wink.gif

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 1 2011, 12:08 AM

Hey fellas!

Here's the final mix! Thanks to everyone who attended! biggrin.gif Hope you'll enjoy this little metal battle of the riffs! Give it up for Gitarreo, Jad, Ville and xxxridzr!



 Metal_Rhythm_Collab_Final_Mix.mp3 ( 8.05MB ) : 105
 

Posted by: thefireball Nov 1 2011, 03:38 AM

Hmm...don't recall hearing my take. ? huh.gif or is it just me? Great mix and wonderful job, guys!

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 1 2011, 08:06 AM

QUOTE (thefireball @ Nov 1 2011, 02:38 AM) *
Hmm...don't recall hearing my take. ? huh.gif or is it just me? Great mix and wonderful job, guys!


Hey Brandon! out of what I recall you haven't sent any files man sad.gif if I'm wrong, (although I think you mentioned in the thread that you didn't have the time to record) I will ask you to apologize me.

Posted by: thefireball Nov 1 2011, 06:52 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Nov 1 2011, 02:06 AM) *
Hey Brandon! out of what I recall you haven't sent any files man sad.gif if I'm wrong, (although I think you mentioned in the thread that you didn't have the time to record) I will ask you to apologize me.


Hmm. well i thought I did in post 34. But i guess Rapidshare deleted them or something. no longer there. oh well.

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Nov 1 2011, 07:34 PM

QUOTE (thefireball @ Nov 1 2011, 05:52 PM) *
Hmm. well i thought I did in post 34. But i guess Rapidshare deleted them or something. no longer there. oh well.


sad.gif I just noticed right now...Sorry mate, I'll make it up to you somehow sad.gif if you have any suggestions biggrin.gif I'm open

Posted by: thefireball Nov 1 2011, 10:17 PM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Nov 1 2011, 01:34 PM) *
sad.gif I just noticed right now...Sorry mate, I'll make it up to you somehow sad.gif if you have any suggestions biggrin.gif I'm open


Coz,

That's okay. smile.gif I don't have any suggestions that I haven't said before. wink.gif I love RED, and I know one day you will make a lesson on them. wink.gif wink.gif Please don't feel rushed. biggrin.gif But in the meantime, I am practicing your other lessons. cool.gif I've almost got that Metal Metrics 2 lesson down. I just need to clean it up. Too much string noise and not as defined. I want to please you with an awesome REC take - may not be "Aria perfect" wink.gif but will be great I hope.

Brandon

Posted by: JadGh Nov 12 2011, 04:11 PM

Great stuff Coz!!! thanks a lot for the time!

Cheers

Jad

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