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Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Mar 9 2009, 11:32 PM
Hi GMC!
This is just a quick taster of the GMC REC program (REC = Recognition) that we will soon be unveiling, based on the concept of gaining forum points and titles for completion of GMC lessons, and submitting videos. Full discussion is http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=23786.
We are not there yet, but we will soon be rolling the program out and it is looking like it will be a lot of fun!
Now, for those of you that are interested in this, why not get a head start and make some youtube videos of yourself playing lessons. We will shortly reveal how you can use them to get grades and titles, but for now, you can make a start.
We will be accepting YouTube videos only, and no audio only submissions at all, so all you have to do is record the complete main video of a lesson (or indeed lessons) of your choice and place them on YouTube. We will let you know how to apply for grading later but you can get a head start and maybe submit a few all at once! Some of you in fact already have these ready to go, and they will also be eligible for grading when we start the process.
Video quality does not have to be great, but both video and audio quality should be good enough for us to be sure you are playing the piece accurately and well, and for us to see what your hands are doing.
So, what are you waiting for? Get those cameras rolling! If you don't have a webcam yet what better reason is there for getting one???
Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 9 2009, 11:36 PM
This sounds cool but I'm confused on the concept. You gain points by posting or what 
Posted by: Praetorian Mar 9 2009, 11:37 PM
I love the idea!!! Can't wait!!
Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Mar 9 2009, 11:38 PM
We discussed this a few weeks back - I added a link to the original discussion up above
Posted by: Ctodd Mar 9 2009, 11:43 PM
I saw the REC forum a while back in the Instructors corner. I knew something was up!
anyway what about a lesson like this?
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/paramore-style-lesson-2-ballads/
Lead and rhythm are both part of the lesson, and are not included on the backing track. I don't have the hardware (pedals namely) to do the lesson in one take. I'm assuming that If I were to submit two separate takes in one video (sort of like picture in picture) that it wouldn't be a problem?
I ask this because this is one of the few.... wait only, lesson I have completed front to back flawlessly.
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Mar 9 2009, 11:53 PM
Awesome Andrew!
I was wondering when this will come into light! Can't wait to see how the REC program turns out - it promises a lot of interesting stuff IMO!
Posted by: rokchik Mar 10 2009, 12:02 AM
This is great Andrew The program is very exciting, can't wait for the full roll out.
rok
Posted by: Ajmurrell Mar 10 2009, 12:02 AM
One question... Where do we post our youtube takes for the REC?!? I wanna get INVOLVED 
This is just a quick taster of the GMC REC program (REC = Recognition) that we will soon be unveiling, based on the concept of gaining forum points and titles for completion of GMC lessons, and submitting videos. Full discussion is http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=23786.
We are not there yet, but we will soon be rolling the program out and it is looking like it will be a lot of fun!
Now, for those of you that are interested in this, why not get a head start and make some youtube videos of yourself playing lessons. We will shortly reveal how you can use them to get grades and titles, but for now, you can make a start.
We will be accepting YouTube videos only, and no audio only submissions at all, so all you have to do is record the complete main video of a lesson (or indeed lessons) of your choice and place them on YouTube. We will let you know how to apply for grading later but you can get a head start and maybe submit a few all at once! Some of you in fact already have these ready to go, and they will also be eligible for grading when we start the process.
Video quality does not have to be great, but both video and audio quality should be good enough for us to be sure you are playing the piece accurately and well, and for us to see what your hands are doing.
So, what are you waiting for? Get those cameras rolling! If you don't have a webcam yet what better reason is there for getting one???
Posted by: TreyDeschamp Mar 10 2009, 12:51 AM
woops my fault
Posted by: Chris Evans Mar 10 2009, 12:52 AM
really looking forward to seeing this roll out
Posted by: skennington Mar 10 2009, 01:17 AM
This will all be set up soon Adam.
Great news Andrew, can't wait and I hope all who can get involved, will. This program will be a tremendous value that will benefit all who participate as well as setting GMC apart from the rest...Not that it already is...
Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Mar 10 2009, 02:01 AM
I saw the REC forum a while back in the Instructors corner. I knew something was up!anyway what about a lesson like this?
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/paramore-style-lesson-2-ballads/
Lead and rhythm are both part of the lesson, and are not included on the backing track. I don't have the hardware (pedals namely) to do the lesson in one take. I'm assuming that If I were to submit two separate takes in one video (sort of like picture in picture) that it wouldn't be a problem?
I ask this because this is one of the few.... wait only,
lesson I have completed front to back flawlessly.I don't think that would be a problem at all
Posted by: David Wallimann Mar 10 2009, 02:57 AM
I'm very excited to see this idea grow! :-)
Posted by: -Zion- Mar 10 2009, 08:32 AM
ooooh..
awesome.. now if only i didn't have a job..
Posted by: Canis Mar 10 2009, 08:44 AM
awesome.. now if only i didn't have a job..
Trifles
Can't wait ^^
Posted by: Rated Htr Mar 10 2009, 09:24 AM
Nice idea Just now that my webcam is working again ^^
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Mar 10 2009, 09:28 AM
This is going to be killer - so many people have devoted themselves to make this happen!
Posted by: steve25 Mar 10 2009, 12:17 PM
Sounds great but unfortunatly i'm not going to be able to take part because i have no way of recording video. Good luck to everyone else though
Posted by: Pedja Simovic Mar 10 2009, 12:19 PM
Sounds like another awesome project ! Very excited to see how this will develop 
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Mar 10 2009, 12:20 PM
Learning to record video could be crucial for your progress - how else can we determine if you have good posture, fingering etc.
I am sure you can get away with an extremely cheap web camera for this purpose!
Posted by: jer Mar 10 2009, 01:34 PM
ADD TO CART
$10 shipped.
Probably not the best, but hey, better than nothing.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-10-0M-PIXEL-USB-6-LED-PC-CAMERA-MIC-WEBCAM-LAPTOP_W0QQitemZ370154100449QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Video_Conferencing_Webcams?hash=item370154100449&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1308%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
Posted by: steve25 Mar 10 2009, 02:27 PM
I am sure you can get away with an extremely cheap web camera for this purpose!
I don't get pains or anything when playing and i make sure that i'm sat comfortably. Fingering i believe a discussion has been done before and a lot of people agree it's a matter of personal preference and what feels comfortable to each player. Although i see what you are saying it would help a bit, a cheap camera probably wouldn't allow people to see anything in great detail and of course easier to miss things.
I think i'll stick to audio events if any occur, if i have enough money at some point to buy a camera i might look into it
Posted by: Canis Mar 10 2009, 03:36 PM
Cameras isn't that expensive anymore. I got my Creative Webcam for about 20 bucks, and it's pretty decent. Check the youtube link in my sig to see how it is.
And please, if there is anything I can do to help with this Rec Program, I'm happy to help! No matter if it's licking stamps or standing on my head for no obvious reason
Posted by: Vasilije Vukmirovic Mar 10 2009, 03:43 PM
This is what we have been waiting for, this will tremendously useful, serious stuff!
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Mar 10 2009, 03:52 PM
Yes...you can get started right away! (for no obvious reasons of course!
)No seriously, thanks! We will let you know if we think of something
Posted by: ErikEklund Mar 10 2009, 03:54 PM
cool
Posted by: Velvet Roger Mar 10 2009, 04:46 PM
Awesome, looking forward to this!
Posted by: Fran Mar 10 2009, 06:27 PM
Cool cool cool 
Can't wait
Posted by: kaznie_NL Mar 10 2009, 07:04 PM
I think the idea is great but... I think the chance that this will be cool and have a lot of people uploading at first, but then it'll go downhill. A bit like the monthly competition, started with a lot of entries, and now we have four of them. I think a way of going around this problem is to atract more people, for instance by not asking for video! For me, making an mp3 has a low bar, where for making a video the bar is higher, it needs to be something special! Not everyone has a webcam and just starts recording in a snap of a second.
I don't want to be "that" guy, I just think some critisicm (hard word ) is on it's place. Canis once photoshopped a post of mine, and undernetah my avatar he put: Guitar God (884 point) or something like that.... I have to say that was cool!!
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Mar 11 2009, 02:05 AM
You have a point there Kaz, but having a titule on GMC forum could mean a lot for some members, so I think people will go for this idea. Also, idea could evolve in time, and bring some more interesting stuff into light
Posted by: Col Roberts Mar 11 2009, 09:03 AM
Perhaps the Monthly Challenges could somehow be tied into the GMC Rec Program ...
Posted by: audiopaal Mar 11 2009, 12:24 PM
Sounds good
Posted by: wrk Mar 11 2009, 12:50 PM
I think the monthly challenges are tied automatically to the Rec program. Members can send the same video for evaluation to the Rec program. The effort to work on these lesson will be rewarded two times .. can be a nice boost for the monthly challenges.
Posted by: Sensible Jones Mar 11 2009, 02:02 PM
I am sure you can get away with an extremely cheap web camera for this purpose!
This is something I'm going to have to learn how to do!!!
I will probably end up asking all sorts of stupid questions of EVERYONE!!!!
PS. What would be the recommended MP size for a camera?? What software, etc???? My new PC is almost here so it won't be long before I'm able to start learning this stuff!!!!
Posted by: Fran Mar 11 2009, 03:10 PM
Don't worry too much about MP in the webcam, mine is 2 but I almos always record at 640x480, it's more than enough for youtube and the videos look quite good.
Be sure that the camera is able to record with a reasonable fps and good quality image, problem is that's impossible to determine just looking at the specs in the box.
I use logitech quickcam pro 9000 (as many other members here), and I'm happy with it. I must say it took me afew tries to find the right settings though. Default ones were really laggy. Light is very important, be sure to shoot the vid with as many lights as possible.
Posted by: Sensible Jones Mar 11 2009, 06:05 PM
Be sure that the camera is able to record with a reasonable fps and good quality image, problem is that's impossible to determine just looking at the specs in the box.
I use logitech quickcam pro 9000 (as many other members here), and I'm happy with it. I must say it took me afew tries to find the right settings though. Default ones were really laggy. Light is very important, be sure to shoot the vid with as many lights as possible.
Thanks Fran! I've found one that is 8MP and records video at 30 fps which I think should be OK? I'll have a look for one of those Logitech ones as well!!
Posted by: Fran Mar 11 2009, 06:11 PM
The 8 MP are probably interpoled, so forget about that. As I said 2 real MP is probably more than you'll need, and even 640x480 (which is like half a MP) is already a pretty good size for REC purposes.
Quality of image is what you need
The thing is that webcams that provide a decent image quality will most certainly feature 1 or 2 real MP resolution
Posted by: enforcer Mar 11 2009, 07:28 PM
I got a serious Video Cam problem. The one that my friend used to lend me is sold 
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