Composing Vs Improvising |
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Composing Vs Improvising |
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Sep 2 2011, 11:54 PM
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So I was reading the artilces that Sirjamsalot linked in this thread:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...c=38959&hl= I was thinking about what he said about how after practicing excercises to the metronome religiously for a whole year that he was very dissapointed when he put on a backing track and all that came out were the excercises he had been practicing. I myself have experienced the exact same thing. It got me to thinking about composing music vs. improvising music. I have to say that I personally prefer a well done composition over a well done improvisation. It seems like every time I listen to improvisations on youtube......and I mean Improvs done by GREAT improvisors like Guthrie, Tom Quayle, Rick Graham etc......I almost always come away from it going wow that was awesome....but I really didn't hear a whole of melodies that I could sing back. When I listen to a well done compositon that is structured like a vocal tune I can almost always sing back the melodies. I've even noticed my 6 yr. old son will hum back the melodies of Satch tunes etc. So......what do you guys prefer? Improv or Compositions? |
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Sep 3 2011, 12:12 AM |
I'm the same way as you. I prefer comps. I can't really improvise, but I remember common melodies more than just random improvs.
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Sep 3 2011, 10:09 AM |
Improvisation is a skill that is being learned throughout the life. Check out my improvising workshop series, currently only part 1 is live, but it will give you an idea on how to use your freshly learned patterns
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Improvising-Workshop-1/ If you have any questions, let us know mate. What you are saying is a common issue, and we all go through that. After a while, when you remember the note positions and develop relative ear, it will be much easier to develop a melody over a harmonic background. -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Sep 4 2011, 08:15 AM |
Great topic! yeah, I also prefer compositions over improvisations. but I agree that there were some guys like Hendrix or SRV that could make awesome and memorial improvisations. I understand what you mean and I'm with you, I prefer to come back home singing a melody than saying this guys can follow every chord at fast tempo.
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Sep 7 2011, 06:05 PM |
I think both melt as much as you want them to. In Jazz they almost fully improvise, only reiterating a few melodies or rhythms.
To write a solo for instance you almost HAVE TO start by improvising, but not necessarily. Myself I enjoy writing a solo, but as I said, it starts with jamming -------------------- Visit my:
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Sep 7 2011, 08:54 PM |
Very similar process goes for both improvising and composing. In fact, improvising is the same thing as composing, except it is done in real time.
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Sep 8 2011, 09:23 AM |
Improvisation is like telling a story on the spot the better you speak the language, the better the story. BUT...you can't write a complex novel on the spot, usually so that's where composition kicks in you have more time to elaborate structures both harmonically and melodically. My conclusion is, that you can achieve both, but you have to be able to listen to yourself as often as possible and achieve a certain degree of self critique which would never allow you to stray from the 'tasteful' line I mean, if you are not a fast player by nature, don't try to play fast when improvising - always use the things you master to your advantage! Always use your ears as it is the best thing out there I appreciate both good improvisation and composition, but honestly I am much more into composition and orchestration nowadays - a well written song, lives in the mind of your listener for a lifetime, while the improvisation only lasts for an evening ..maybe Most definitely true -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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